: my new truck might be a stolen truck and i might lose it


jesusislord
05-21-2002, 11:30 PM
I bought a truck a couple days ago. a 76 fullsize blazer 4x4.
it looks alot newer than any 76 i ever saw but it is supposed to have been updated with a newer front clip, doors, quarters, etc..
i got it home and the next day when it was light outside i went and had a good look at it, but i couldnt find any VIN numbers anywhere, and the steering column was glued back together and fell apart right away. I called the police to come and look at it as it was to suspicious, i dont want to be nervous every time i see a cop.
where are all of the numbers on a fullsize blazer?
i know this much, the sticker on the radiator shroud is gone, the sticker in the glove box is gone, the VIN on the dash was cut out and a speaker was stuffed in there, the numbers on the frame have some of the numbers with bolts going right thru the frame, their is numbers on the motor still tho.
it is a fuel injected 350 with a 700r4 and a 208
it has a 10 bolt diff front and rear.
there is not a speck of rust and not one dent on the truck, but the tailgate has alot of runs in the paint, which is shiny as anything.
anyone ever heard any stories about VIN numbers and what happens if they cant prove anything with VIN's ??
i really want to keep the truck as i just got hit in my old one and it is a write off, i bought this new one with the money the insurance company paid out to me.
now if i lose this one i wont get my money back cuz its buyer beware.
thanks if anyone knows anything at all about this kinda thing, any police in the house?
god bless

volpster69
05-22-2002, 04:22 AM
well what little i do know is that , you have a bill of sale,
so the police will go to where you bought it. but if they
find numbers and trace it , and it is stolen. you will lose
it if the owner wants it back.
now if the owner that it was stolen from has already
collected insurance claim on it , then the insurance
company could want it back or they will offer for you to buy it
from them.
i guess you first have to see if they can trace it .

do you have it registered already?
the bill of sale should have the vin on it

jesusislord
05-22-2002, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by volpster69
well what little i do know is that , you have a bill of sale,
so the police will go to where you bought it. but if they
find numbers and trace it , and it is stolen. you will lose
it if the owner wants it back.
now if the owner that it was stolen from has already
collected insurance claim on it , then the insurance
company could want it back or they will offer for you to buy it
from them.
i guess you first have to see if they can trace it .

do you have it registered already?
the bill of sale should have the vin on it

yes i have a bill of sale with the VIN on it, but the problem is whether or not that VIN number even is for this truck. I couldnt find any numbers on the truck, but, the police have taken the truck to check it out in their lab. The policeman told me that i may get my money back, and he said that he would try to see what he could do for me. As far as getting the truck or not, so i guess it may turn out i get the truck and my money back, wouldnt that be a blessing from god.This is where i have to say if you had told me i would get my money back and get a truck i would say impossible , but with god all things are possible.
nothing is impossible to the creator and master of the universe.
praise god.
Plus i learned a very valuable lesson.
all i can say at this point is praise god cuz he is so so good.
god bless

mytzlflick
05-22-2002, 02:33 PM
well first off if it is stolen you will lose it, the cops will keep it and contact the legal owner. second the guy who sold it to you couldn't legally do so and you can sue to get your money back. as long as you know who he is and where he lives you will have to do very little as the police will be having a lot of conversations with him shortly.
hang on and see where the chips land. oh yeah never buy a vehicle without a vin tag.

Hammerlock
05-22-2002, 04:14 PM
Dude, you better get the police over to that guy's house quick before be bails on you. But I bet he was smarter than that...Did you actually see him come out of the house? Hope you didn't meet in a parking lot or something. Maybe you can talk the police into taking some finger prints. See a lawyer quick.

:eek:

ranger
05-22-2002, 09:26 PM
Why did you even buy a vehicle without a VIN # on it!
Even though the police are involved you will be lucky if you see your money or get the truck.
Did he give you a bill of sale or a pink slip (title).
If you just have a bill of sale, more than likely the guy that filled it out didn't even put his real name on it. He is probably on a spending spree....
It hard to get a fake title, but if the guys a pro, which doesn't sound like it, you can get them.....
I hope the police can find something out, cause if the truck is stolen, to be blunt, your screwed!
Sounds to me that this truck is piece milled together. 350 FI, 700R4, NP208, or even a 10 bolt front & rear never came in a 76 Blazer.
76 blazers had either 305, 350 or 400 small blocks, SM465/ NP205, or TH350/NP203 tranny and xfer cases, Dana 44 front 12 bolt rear axles.
Good luck dude!:skull:

BadDog
05-22-2002, 09:39 PM
Sounds to me like that stole a 8? K5, bought a dirt cheap beater 76 K5 for the good title, trashed the numbers on the stolen rig, crushed and/or parted out the 76, and started looking for a sucker to buy an 8? K5 as a "updated" 76.

Good luck dude but, I expect your screwed.

jesusislord
05-22-2002, 09:58 PM
The police came by today and they towed the truck to their lab.
The cop was from the auto theft dept. and he was very nice about it all, he said i would get my money back, and a slight possibility i would get to keep the truck.
I will get my money back from a thing called criminal compensation.
So if you had asked me 3 days ago if i thought i had a chance of getting my money back and keeping the truck i would have said it was impossible, but with god all things are possible, nothing is impossible to the creator and master of the entire universe.
I have faith that no matter what happens god didnt get me involved in this thing for no reason whatsoever.
It took me, to catch the bad guy, it took god using me to teach a bad guy that you cant just steal things and expect to get away with it.
it will all work out i am sure, now i have to change the tranny on my 88 S10 ;o)
as soon as the rain stops that is :o)
thanks for all your help folks it is very much appreciated.
god bless

jesusislord
05-22-2002, 10:06 PM
The guy did use his real name, he lived in a trailer park in a little trailer :o)
but he is already wanted and has 2 warrants for his arrest.
plus, he has a long history of stolen property.
He was a guy that needed to be caught, if it took me losing a bit of money to catch him, so be it.
it will all come back as a positive anyways.
c-ya :o)

mj
05-25-2002, 10:58 AM
ok
for starters godboy, the badguy has been caught before as you posted.
sounds like you catching him again isnt devine intervention but
just plain stupidity on your part for buying stolen goods.
the law may lock him up for a short time but he will be back at it in no time.
I just hope that YOU will be a tad more vigilant in what you buy and from whom in the future.
fools that buy hot vehicles are feeding the market, if no one bought them, no one would steal them.

Hammerlock
05-25-2002, 07:40 PM
Ranger and MJ,
You guys are acting like losers. Like you guys checked the VIN and serial number on every purchase you ever made. Like you have never been ripped off or conned. Give the guy a break. The real idiot axehole is the guy who sold the stolen truck to start with.

:flipoff2:

jesusislord
05-25-2002, 10:58 PM
Well i have learned a lesson and i have also been humbled by this entire ordeal.
Everytime i tell a family member the story or i tell a friend, it is very humbling to me as i am pretty up on everything that i do.
This was just a big mistake on my part, but, in reality i dont beleive in my heart that it was a mistake at all.
Even though the guy who sold it to me had 2 warrants, if the truck turned out to be a truck that wasnt stolen. I would have went to the jail to pay buddy the rest of the cash i owed him.
I gave him my word as a man, and although he didnt tell me the truth, i am not him.
By jesus dying to pay the price for my sins, in place of me.
God has set me free from the laws of sin and death.
I am not conformed to the way the world does things, gods way of doing things is not the worlds way, the world is dying, but gods word is life.If you dont comprehend what i am saying, its because you are not like me and we are foreingers to one another.There are many languages that are spoken on earth, and all of them still have meaning, but, if i dont understand chinese dosnt mean, it dosnt mean anything.
bless you MJ.

jesusislord
05-25-2002, 11:02 PM
The law is actually in place because of biblical truths.
The purpose of the law is to reprove and teach those lost in sins.

mj
05-25-2002, 11:22 PM
godboy,

not interested in the crap you are selling.
this is a 4x4 site not a sermon site.
I am certain I could get double talk from the brainwashed online or live if I wanted it, which I really dont.
actions not words speak volumes, which you pushers will never understand.
there were laws long before the book was written but typical of you to try and take credit for everything.


Hammerlock,
the vehicle in question had MAJOR warning signs.
completely updated body with old title.
we are men here and claiming ignorance on buying a hot car is, well, LAME.
a hot part, ok it happens, but a whole fawking vehicle.
he KNEW it was hot but was thinking he could get away with it and his concience bit him, a little late.
no symapthy here for him, you can judge him any way you want.

Paul Gagnon
05-26-2002, 12:39 PM
When you guys cool your heads I may open this one up again.