Anyone else having problems with their Duramax?

My service engine soon light came on this morning. Took it to the dealer. The tech says my injector pump is going out. 7-10 days before they can get the part. They are not sure they can overnight it. I asked the service rep if this is a common problem. He told me he has only been working there for a couple of months, but this is the second one he has seen. I was supposed to be leaving for Moab on Friday, and camping out of it. 40,000 miles, and pump is going out?:mad3:

First I heard of engine problems, but I keep hearing about trannys blowin up, a dealer told me they were fixing trannys before they left the lot.
ericfilar@fatcity

Originally posted by rockedtj
Anyone else having problems with their Duramax?

Some of the early '01s had injector pump problems but from what I've seen it's not a common problem. Check out this forumns on this page for more details:
http://forum.62-65-dieselpage.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi


FWIW - My Duramax died on me this weekend. I was had the camper on and the trailer/ Jeeo behind it. Turns out the drain cock for the fule filter loosened off and allowed the motor to suck some air in. Tightened the drain cock and primed the pump. Started right up and I was on my way again.

Passed lots of other trucks on the hills. No other problems to report.

Originally posted by FatCity
First I heard of engine problems, but I keep hearing about trannys blowin up, a dealer told me they were fixing trannys before they left the lot.
ericfilar@fatcity

My dad worked at the Local GMC Dealer and yeah I have heard of the tranny problems.

I was considering purchasing a new GMC Duramax with the Allison tranny, and was told not to by the service techs. They are replacing entire motors from this combo due to bent pushrods. No pushrod replacement, pull the motor, crate her up and send it back. :eek: WOW. He showed me a hand full of pushrods that looked like twizzlers. Very strange indeed.

I just talked to my buddy over there and he said the injector pump problem you discribed was not a common one. He has seen 2 since the latest version of that motor came out. Consider they sold about 100 times that many, that's not a bad number. :D:D:D

Thanks for the info. I am glad I am not the only one. Just wish they kept one or two in stock.

and thanks for the forum info. I had not found that one yet. Good info but :rainbow: JU sig lines!

i think these problems you're having are gods way of telling you to go get a real truck like a Dodge with the Cummins. hang on for a sec.....

*puts on flame suit*
Ok....go ahead...hit me now :D :flipoff2:

Originally posted by riffman
i think these problems you're having are gods way of telling you to go get a real truck like a Dodge with the Cummins. hang on for a sec.....

*puts on flame suit*
Ok....go ahead...hit me now :D :flipoff2:


Six cylinder motors lick ball bag! Go 7.3l Powerstroke v8 and never look back.

Originally posted by riffman
i think these problems you're having are gods way of telling you to go get a real truck like a Dodge with the Cummins. hang on for a sec.....

*puts on flame suit*
Ok....go ahead...hit me now :D :flipoff2:
Yeah, Yeah Yeah. At least I don't have to wear a kidney belt and ear plugs every time I go for a drive on the interstate:flipoff2:

Originally posted by rockedtj

Yeah, Yeah Yeah. At least I don't have to wear a kidney belt and ear plugs every time I go for a drive on the interstate:flipoff2:

BAHAHA

WHAT!!?!??! rattle rattle rattle DUDE I CAN'T FAWKIN HEAR A THING YOU'RE SAYING??? rattle rattle rattle.....:flipoff2:

Originally posted by Brawler



Six cylinder motors lick ball bag! Go 7.3l Powerstroke v8 and never look back.

OH YA!!
My Cummins will smoke your kids tricycle on the grades!!!

DICK :flipoff2:

i just looked at a 96 dodge 4x4 that had 500k+ on it and was a straight clean old truck. they sent it to the dealer auto auction and it pulled 8k. yea i think i will get another cummings.

Originally posted by GloNDark


BAHAHA

WHAT!!?!??! rattle rattle rattle DUDE I CAN'T FAWKIN HEAR A THING YOU'RE SAYING??? rattle rattle rattle.....:flipoff2:


Bahahahh ROFLMFAO !!!

I love my 7.3psd ya its loud but i love the singin' its not a cool as the now ones but at leasts it a proven thing and they have most all the bugs worked out of the psd's, not that this makes any of um bad, just the reason i didnt get one...

IT'S FREEDOM ROCK MAN TURN IT UP !!!

WHAT??? YOU SAY SOMTEN ????

-yag

Originally posted by GloNDark
They are replacing entire motors from this combo due to bent pushrods. No pushrod replacement, pull the motor, crate her up and send it back. :eek: WOW. He showed me a hand full of pushrods that looked like twizzlers. Very strange indeed.

This is standard GM practice for anything new... Failure analisys stuff so they can find the problems & address them. When I worked for Cadillac the northstars had bad sealing problems, we were replacing engines for oil pan leaks... they want them back so they can determine the problems & the best way to repair it. Once they figure that out, it'll become a repair thing instead of a replacement I'm sure.

the only noise i hear on my 2001 psd,is the junky ass interor that rattles.but the engine noise is not bad:D

Originally posted by Fullsizes Rule


This is standard GM practice for anything new... Failure analisys stuff so they can find the problems & address them. When I worked for Cadillac the northstars had bad sealing problems, we were replacing engines for oil pan leaks... they want them back so they can determine the problems & the best way to repair it. Once they figure that out, it'll become a repair thing instead of a replacement I'm sure.

ah now that makes sense!! Finally someone who could explain it to me. Those service tech can take apart any GMC Truck with their eyes closed, but not one of them knew why they were sending the whole mess back. :D

Originally posted by Brawler



Six cylinder motors lick ball bag! Go 7.3l Powerstroke v8 and never look back.

Except to see all that gawdafull smoke pouring out your ass end :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Originally posted by FatCity


OH YA!!
My Cummins will smoke your kids tricycle on the grades!!!

DICK :flipoff2:

OH YAH!!!


Mines bigger than yours.

My friend has went through 2 Allisons and 1 turbo in his Chevy. I'll stick with my noisy TRUCK engine. Cummins Rule!:smokin: :flipoff2:

ok, so how many other people are laughing at this?
After all the "It's designed by Isuzu, it's going to kick ass" shit we heard before these things came out... I am quite suprised that the Allison is having that many problems though, GM must have gotten it's fingers in on the design of that too.
Not saying anything is perfect (broken camshaft's in the first Dodges with the Cummins comes to mind) but I have to laugh because of all the hype I heard before they came out.

Oh, BTW... real truck engines are inline

:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Chevy did get there hands in the redesign of the allison. Since it was made to go in heavy trucks it had nice crisp shifts and it was unnoticable in the heavier trucks. when chevy put them in there trucks they would spin the tires through each gear, so they had allison soften up the shifts. this caused slippage, heat and when customers thought hey i have a allison i can tow in OD no problem. and then they bitch to the dealers when there trannys go south. Chevy SUCKS! :flipoff2:

BTW my next truck is going to have 2 inline 4 cylinders connected via one crank in a F-350 CC DRW :D

Originally posted by Brawler



Six cylinder motors lick ball bag! Go 7.3l Powerstroke v8 and never look back.

yeah...your right....6 cylinders suck...thats why none of the OTR trucks use em.....they all have v8's......hmmm....noooooooooooooooooooo they are I6...sorry ass licker!! 6's RULE!!! :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Originally posted by rockedtj

Yeah, Yeah Yeah. At least I don't have to wear a kidney belt and ear plugs every time I go for a drive on the interstate:flipoff2:

hehehe....yeah...they are loud....but thats what loud radios are for!!!! I LOVE THE NOISE!!

Originally posted by Brawler



Six cylinder motors lick ball bag! Go 7.3l Powerstroke v8 and never look back.

Yea yea yea... say whatever you want. If you want real bragging rights go to a dyno and have your truck dyno'd. I've got friends doing 470 HP at the rear wheels in their Cummins. Mine will only do 302 and 670 ft/lbs at the rear wheels.

Sorry to say this.... but Duradud is not the "most powerful" diesel engine. Neither is the Flowerpoke.

Now, only if the idiots at DC would get a clue and make a real crew cab truck.

Charles

wow, somebody actually had a pump go out, wow...
So far we have head no pump failures, just some scattered problems to date. The only problem we have had that has been maybe 5 times now, is a problem with the alison, and has to do with a problem in the pump, and had one that was mis-built that we replaced. As for pushrods being bent and so forth, we have not seen any major engine failures yet, and we sell a ton of trucks, granted, the duramax is still hard to get any amout of the untis from the factory. Customers for the most part are happy with the combo, and seem only to be mad about the typical interior problems.

I wonder how the new ford 6.0 liter will be?

Thats what I am holding out for. November they say. 325hp and 500+ torque stock

Ron

Originally posted by fj40charles

Now, only if the idiots at DC would get a clue and make a real crew cab truck.

Charles

I have to agree with that...I would have got a Dodge if the made a crew cab but I just ordered a '02 PSD
I guess I'll have to deal:) :)

Phil:usa:

So Phil, when we going to race our new tow rigs? your PSD, vrs my DC.

Originally posted by riffman


yeah...your right....6 cylinders suck...thats why none of the OTR trucks use em.....they all have v8's......hmmm....noooooooooooooooooooo they are I6...sorry ass licker!! 6's RULE!!! :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Inline 6 is the most torque-efficient design. That's why they are used in OTR trucks. I worked my way through college as a diesel tech for Ryder. Those big old Cummins M11s and N14s can make upwards of 1,200 to 1,400 ft-lbs of torque if they're tuned to do so, but you hardly ever see one with more than 425 horsepower... and most are in the 300 HP range.

Cummings? This some new take off on the CUMMINS?

Ken H.


Originally posted by gunracer1
i just looked at a 96 dodge 4x4 that had 500k+ on it and was a straight clean old truck. they sent it to the dealer auto auction and it pulled 8k. yea i think i will get another cummings.

Don't know if you guys follow this site much, but here is some info on the new Cummins

http://www.car-truck.com/chryed/buzz/b042302.htm

I guess you won't be able to claim workman's comp for hearing loss anymore:flipoff2:

My Dad has 50K on his Duramax and he loves it.

It has not given him any problems and it rarely gets driven without a Gooseneck and his Trackhoe or Dozer on the back.

If I had the $$ I would buy one in a heartbeat and roll this damn loud ass Cummins of mine in the lake.

Granted I can modify my Cummins to outperform the Duramax, but off the shelf, Dad's Duramax KICKS THE SHIT out of my HO 6 speed Cummins.

Also, my Cruiser's straight 6 is louder than his Diesel.

Hey Glo, ask those guys where they got the bent push rods if they send the whole engine back to the plant?

Sounds fishy to me, but I trust you are just repeating what you were told ;)

Originally posted by fj40charles
Yea yea yea... say whatever you want. If you want real bragging rights go to a dyno and have your truck dyno'd. I've got friends doing 470 HP at the rear wheels in their Cummins. Mine will only do 302 and 670 ft/lbs at the rear wheels.

Sorry to say this.... but Duradud is not the "most powerful" diesel engine. Neither is the Flowerpoke.

Now, only if the idiots at DC would get a clue and make a real crew cab truck.

Charles



And they dumpped an additional 5-10k just to bump it up to that. I could go out and buy all the trick shit and end up with 5-600 hp if i had the cash.

I heard that a Cummins DC crew cab is in the works. Stay tuned.... That's what I'm holding out for. :D

Originally posted by Brawler




And they dumpped an additional 5-10k just to bump it up to that. I could go out and buy all the trick shit and end up with 5-600 hp if i had the cash.

$5,000-$10,000 Yeh right!!!

Banks has you guys so snowed over on there price for power numbers (still a great product just too exensive).... For about $1,500 you can have a 24V Cummings sporting 400hp rear wheel and 800lbs rear wheel. Get the Comp Edge and some Stage III injectors...

For you Cummings owners check out www.tdr1.com
Its the like Pirate Board for Cummings owners....over 10,000 paying members..

P.S I love my Cummings.......The Powerjoke is almost as good
:)

Originally posted by BigDan
...a 24V Cummings sporting...

...you Cummings owners... ...for Cummings owners....... love my Cummings.......The Powerjoke is almost as good
:)

Powerjoke? The only joke here is your spelling! Or do you not know that the 5.9 is built by CUMMINS without a G? :flipoff2: :D

As long as I'm replying, while I'm biased towards the PSD, being an IH guy, I have to admit that the original design was not meant to be as heavy use as the B series Cummins. No contest there. If you want to compare to what IH has to offer, grab a DT466 inline 6 diesel. Now THAT is a medium-duty truck engine.
http://www.internationaldelivers.com/engine/images/dt466ht_rp_col3_chart.jpg

If you love it so much, look at your damn door and read what it says. You have a CUMMINS, not CUMMINGS!!!

Jeese.

Maybe I should buy a Furd, or a Cheby to put next to the Cummings.

Ken H.


Originally posted by BigDan


P.S I love my Cummings.......The Powerjoke is almost as good
:)

Ohhhhh.... what you have never mis-spelled anything on the POR Board....

Whatever...
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Here is a 24V CUMMINS w/ injectors and a Power Max(computer).

For all of you analyzers out there, you and get that 400hp in different combinations other then this particular one

I think this belongs in the new Tow Rig Forum....

Make it happen and vote!!!!!

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=56450

We don't need a tow rig forum!

All it will be is a bunch of Powerstroke and Cummins guys bragging on their rigs!

Originally posted by wngrog
We don't need a tow rig forum!

All it will be is a bunch of Powerstroke and Cummins guys bragging on their rigs!

yeah, and the CumminGs guys, too! :p :D :flipoff2:

Originally posted by zukipuke
I love my 7.3psd ya its loud but i love the singin' its not a cool as the now ones but at leasts it a proven thing and they have most all the bugs worked out of the psd's, not that this makes any of um bad, just the reason i didnt get one...

DAMN man, learn how to type! Ain't got no spell check on that POS laptop? :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Have fun in NY...

my dad has a new f-350 single wheel 7.3 ps, and on the highway when you punch it that bitch sounds like a jet, with his flowmasters... i like the loudness

Originally posted by HONDA_ForePlay
my dad has a new f-350 single wheel 7.3 ps, and on the highway when you punch it that bitch sounds like a jet, with his flowmasters... i like the loudness


Moron.