Been looking a while for a cage kit that I can purchase, pre-bent is mainly what I have been looking for. I would prefer doing all the welding, fitting, etc. How does this cage look to you guys? Fair price? I would plan on adding spreaders front and rear and maybe add some triangulation in places.
http://completeoffroad.com/wsm/i-1384_roll_cage_yj_wrangler_jeep.html

S&W makes a "kit" for about half that price that requires fitting (notching) and welding. www.swracecars.com

That's what I have in my YJ and it's decent...we are planning on adding some more tube though.

Sounds great, thanks for the advice. Do you have any pictures of your cage/Jeep? If so please post up or send to khsjeepr@charter.net

Thanks again

Check out AtoZ Fabrication (www.atozfabrication.com)as he did my cage with wonderful results. He also offers add on cages both front and rear. Not to mention Zach is damned sexy and a fine guy too. ;) he's near Pottsville PA

S&W makes a "kit" for about half that price that requires fitting (notching) and welding. www.swracecars.com

That's what I have in my YJ and it's decent...we are planning on adding some more tube though.

I have the kit, I've done some modifying to the design, but it's mostly their concept. It's held up to tons of several hard flops. I think it's a really good platform, but the tubing size is odd. If you can get them to bend it up in 1.5 or 1.75 you'd be better off when you try and modify, those sizes are easier to come by than 1.625

http://www.mpjai.com/album/albums/userpics/10114/normal_Paragon%200281.JPG
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I have the kit, I've done some modifying to the design, but it's mostly their concept. It's held up to tons of several hard flops. I think it's a really good platform, but the tubing size is odd. If you can get them to bend it up in 1.5 or 1.75 you'd be better off when you try and modify, those sizes are easier to come by than 1.625
Any more close up pics of the cage?
Do you think a soft top would still fit?

I have the kit, I've done some modifying to the design, but it's mostly their concept. It's held up to tons of several hard flops. I think it's a really good platform, but the tubing size is odd. If you can get them to bend it up in 1.5 or 1.75 you'd be better off when you try and modify, those sizes are easier to come by than 1.625

Looks like they list one in 1.75 x .120 DOM but the price jumps up to $500

11-2542 1 5/8 x .134 EWS $249
11-2542-CM 1 5/8 x .083 Cromoly $499
11-2542-DOM 1 3/4 x .120 DOM $499

Essentially off road carries cage kits also and thier in TN

Any more close up pics of the cage?
Do you think a soft top would still fit?

I'll see what I can dig up and send em to ya.

Looks like they list one in 1.75 x .120 DOM but the price jumps up to $500

11-2542 1 5/8 x .134 EWS $249
11-2542-CM 1 5/8 x .083 Cromoly $499
11-2542-DOM 1 3/4 x .120 DOM $499

IMHO 500 bucks ain't bad for that cage in 1.75 DOM

S&W in the house. I like it. My first DIY, I added a lot to it.
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http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d100/handfulofcream/outside.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d100/handfulofcream/rear.jpg
And so you don't think my sig is wrong...
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S&W in the house. I like it. My first DIY, I added a lot to it.


How much of that is S&W? Is that their 8 point cage or did you add some more yourself aside from the grab bars and spreader bars?

I'm curious if a hard top will fit over the S&W cage?

I got the 10-point and it was around five bills. It's still not done, I have to do all the "in front of the fire wall stuff". The seat harness bar still needs tied to the frame as well. All in due time.

I've also since then done a CJ cage from S&W, I didn't like it at all. The B-pillar go on top of the finder. :barf: Just not as clean as I would have liked it.

P.S. A hard top will fit.

P.S. A hard top will fit.

Cool. I'm considering just buying the S&W "rollbar to cage" conversion and keeping my stock part of the cage. I don't like the looks of tieing smaller tube into bigger, but I don't think it affects the strength.

I'm a newbee.. so don't ask me.. For the price just get the full kit..:flipoff2:

There are a couple vendors here that offer at least front cage kits for a really good price.. Why not go take a look at the vendor section?
Scott

There are a couple vendors here that offer at least front cage kits for a really good price.. Why not go take a look at the vendor section?
Scott

I guess cause S&W's is $125.00 +s/h. I haven't seen anyone anywhere near that. I have contemplated just buying a bender, but I just can't decide on spending that much. If anything, I'd like to get the S&W kit to make it safer on the cheap, then when I have some more money to play with, buy a bender and build an entire cage from scratch.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d100/handfulofcream/rc3.jpg


This is what the S and W comes with, I didn't run the bars horizontal on the ground between the a and b pillars, I used those bars to somewhat triangulate the b pillar. I also used some of the scrap tube to gusset the halo and the b pillar.

This is what the S and W comes with, I didn't run the bars horizontal on the ground between the a and b pillars, I used those bars to somewhat triangulate the b pillar. I also used some of the scrap tube to gusset the halo and the b pillar.


You get all of that for $125 + shipping?????? Or is that the $500 cage?

You get all of that for $125 + shipping?????? Or is that the $500 cage?
Why dont you click on the web site yourself.
www.swracecars.com

This is what the S and W comes with, I didn't run the bars horizontal on the ground between the a and b pillars, I used those bars to somewhat triangulate the b pillar. I also used some of the scrap tube to gusset the halo and the b pillar.

They also come w/ the floor plates...at least mine did.

You get all of that for $125 + shipping?????? Or is that the $500 cage?

You get all that for $250 in the 1.625 OD HREW tubing, $500 for that in 1.75 DOM. I think it's an exceptionally good deal. Might start looking for someone who stocks 1.625 HREW in case you want to add to it, One stick should be sufficient for anything extra you want to do to it.

And mine came with floor plates as well, although only to bolt it to the floor. You have to make your own frame tie-ins.

has anybody used a competition engineering cage? www.moroso.com

Why dont you click on the web site yourself.
www.swracecars.com

I did but for some reason none of the product pics would show up on the page. I can see them from home computer but not work. But hey thanks though.....

I did but for some reason none of the product pics would show up on the page. I can see them from home computer but not work. But hey thanks though.....

Might have to update your Adobe Reader, I believe all their catalog pages are .pdf

Take a look at this one

http://www.kozoffroad.com/pages_catalog/rollcages/cj/cjrollcages.htm

Darn good deal.

Custom cage as featured in the build write up.

http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/showthread.php?t=37994

Best cage pic`s on page 2.

I have always been a fan of NOT tieing the cage into the windshield. I would like to have the versatility of laying the windshield down if wanted. Plus, would the windshield not be damaged severely if in a hard roll? Seems to me like windshield would go bye-bye under any deformation from the cage!?

I still think I like the complete off-road cage that I originally posted up. What does everyone think about it? Anyone have this cage? Any significant weak points in the cage you can point out?

I purchased the Poisin Spyder cage and love it. Take a look at it before buying somthing else. The way the front posts are made are perfect in my opinion. It uses the factory spreaders in front that tie into the windshield but you could unbolt it and lay it down if you wanted. So far I think it is the coolest thing I've done to my jeep. I fab alot of my own stuff but there is no way I could have built this in a decent time frame for the price.

I purchased the Poisin Spyder cage and love it. Take a look at it before buying somthing else. The way the front posts are made are perfect in my opinion. It uses the factory spreaders in front that tie into the windshield but you could unbolt it and lay it down if you wanted. So far I think it is the coolest thing I've done to my jeep. I fab alot of my own stuff but there is no way I could have built this in a decent time frame for the price.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=563267

So far I think it is the coolest thing I've done to my jeep.
Safety really is the "cool" and smart thing to consider but I rather have a safe cage than a "cool" cage. The PSC A-pillars are "cool" not safe.

The link pics is not the cage I have. Also I would hope if you are able to weld the kit in you are smart enough to add strength were it is needed, of course Darwin has a good theory about this. I still think the kit is excellent even if you have to add a couple of gussets. I would have no worrys in a roll over.

I beleive he had the exact same cage you do the only one PSC has as a kit, he flopped it and had to make changeds to it like fixing the A-pillar along with some more support to get it to hold up

Ben

Can anyone elaborate on the cage that I posted up? I know there are other cages out there, some better some worse, but specifically, I would like to know about this one. Thanks

Can anyone elaborate on the cage that I posted up? I know there are other cages out there, some better some worse, but specifically, I would like to know about this one. Thanks
I would not purchase it. There are other cages in this thread that are a much better design. I am not sure what all of the extra tube are for in the rear portion of the cage but they do nothing to add to the structural integrity of the cage.
I think the S&W 10 point cage is hands down the most well designed kit that I have seen for a YJ.

I would not purchase it. There are other cages in this thread that are a much better design. I am not sure what all of the extra tube are for in the rear portion of the cage but they do nothing to add to the structural integrity of the cage.


Looks like they're for mounting the seats to so that the seats are part of the cage. (Lots of us still run back seats for the kids )

I would agree though that there are better cages in the thread. The complete offroad cage lacks triangulation of any kind. Looks equivilant to a stock YJ family cage with a front hoop add-on.


The problem with the S&W cage is that there is zero back seat protection.

I would agree though that there are better cages in the thread. The complete offroad cage lacks triangulation of any kind. Looks equivilant to a stock YJ family cage with a front hoop add-on.


The problem with the S&W cage is that there is zero back seat protection.

Yea, if you still run a back seat that is a problem. I don't, therefore I don't worry about it. I tried hotlinking the pic of the complete offroad cage to make that point, it looks a little scary.

How much excess tubing comes in the S+W Kit? Would there be enough tubing to do something like "Brink" cage in TJ Cage Inspiration thread? I am referring the the extra bend on the rear down crossbar. You guys w/ that kit, what do you think?

I dont know how generic of a fit the YJ cages are from S&W but the Bronco one I am doing now is VERY generic. Not one peice of tubing has come close to fitting without lots of cutting and grinding. Even the pre notched parts dont line up the way I would like them to have.

pretty much someone saved the trouble of making about 10 bends and the rest is still just like peicing together a custom cage.

All in all its a fairly nice set up, but dont expect to just drop it all in place and weld it up.

pretty much someone saved the trouble of making about 10 bends and the rest is still just like peicing together a custom cage.


In my eye's thats a plus.

In my eye's thats a plus.

X2, thats one of the things I actually liked about my S & W cage, I had a little lee-way with what I was doing. They give you enough tube to do what they intend for you to do. I reversed what they intended you do for the B-pillar and triangulated under the harness bar to give a more stout base, didn't think about just running one diagonal all the way from the driver top to passenger bottom corners of the B when I did it, but live and learn. I had a few extra little drops, enough to make the gussets from the halo to the B. It's not like they send you a ton , but they do give you room to work with (couple extra inches per bar), which again, I thought was great. You position it where you want it, how you want it, etc.

currupt4130:

Do you have any additional pictures of your cage? I would like to see in more detail what you have changed from their design. Thanks in advance.

I just took a look at those C&W cages.

For a 10 Point cage under $400 SHIPPED, you cant get much better then that.

http://www.swracecars.com/gif/10_point.gif

http://www.swracecars.com/roll_bars.asp

If you guys could add extra to it, what would you do?

I just took a look at those C&W cages.

For a 10 Point cage under $400 SHIPPED, you cant get much better then that.

http://www.swracecars.com/gif/10_point.gif

http://www.swracecars.com/roll_bars.asp

If you guys could add extra to it, what would you do?

Add some more bracing in the back to tie it more together, frame tie-ins...I have this cage and if I don't sell my heep this what I'm gonna do w/ it.