A guy local to me has a pair of axle shafts (He's a 40 owner, too), and I'm not really sure how much to offer him for them... I dont' wanna low-ball him, but would like to know what fair market price is these days...

Just to verify.. he's got a '71 axle, mine's a '73.. they should be fine spline on his '71, right? IIRC, they are all fine spline from the mid 60's? So much to learn...

Suppy and demand usually dictates this.

I ususally sell FJ-40 and 55 inners as a set for $50-$75

Long side FJ-60's go for $75-$100 around here.

Good Luck!

Is there anyone that can verify whether or not the inner RH side axleshaft from a minittruck will fit the fJ40 axles? I heard this rumor, but have not confirmed it...

Originally posted by wngrog
I ususally sell FJ-40 and 55 inners as a set for $50-$75

Thanks Nolen! I'll offer him $60 and lunch :p

Originally posted by cruiserbrett
Is there anyone that can verify whether or not the inner RH side axleshaft from a minittruck will fit the fJ40 axles? I heard this rumor, but have not confirmed it...

True, and the pre-85 long side is the same as well.

What changed in '85? thought it was just the gusseting of the axle housing?

I just bought a spare pair for 40 bucks.

I have been told the short side minitruck is the same but why during a disc break conversion do you knock off the birfields, if both inners are the same why wouldn't you use them? I thought I read somewear that after you knock off the birfields you didn't have to worry about mixing up the inners because the mini's are about an inch longer.
Someone must know for sure.

Nolan, i think you might be mistaken on the axle from a minitruck. The long side mintruck is the same as the FJ60 long side.
The short side Fj 60 is the same as the FJ 40 short side.

That being the case the long side FJ40 is shorter than the Minitruck and the short side minitruck is shorter than the Fj40.

I think that is right. I have an minitruck and FJ60 axles in pieces on my garage floor right now .

$50 with good CV and axles per side here thats about US$30

ummmm......
the length argument goes on hey....we were discussing this on the weekend, a friend has a minitruck, and he has defnitely used 60 axles in it, maybe it just slides further into your centre...i really dont know, we "thought"

60 longside = mini long side
40/55/75 long is same
40/60/55/75 short side is same

we KNOW:
40 and 60 and 75 short sides are dead equal
60 longsides are defnitely 85mm longer than equivalent 40 longside

mini's shouldnt be as wide as a 40????

Mini short sides are definitely longer (by about an inch) than FJ40/55/60 short sides. I parted out at least 3 mini-trucks and just recently did a mini-truck front disc brake conversion on my '71 FJ40.

Originally posted by 4Cruisers
Mini short sides are definitely longer (by about an inch) than FJ40/55/60 short sides. I parted out at least 3 mini-trucks and just recently did a mini-truck front disc brake conversion on my '71 FJ40.

I was mistaken, thanks guys!

I dont think his 71 will have fine spline, they should be 6 spline, unless he swaped his out for something other then stock.

Hilux (Mini-truck) top

40 Series bottom

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Originally posted by Erik D
I dont think his 71 will have fine spline, they should be 6 spline

Oh crap... Can someone double check this? :( I'd hate for the guy to have to go through all this for nothing!!!:(

The inner axle shafts will be fine spline, but the birfield will be coarse spline at the hub.

Eskimo they will work just fine the inners will be fine splined, only the bifields have a coarse spline and you are correct they are all fine splined inners from the mid 60"s

Found out something ELSE today... P/O did a later model LC vented rotor swap, so apparently the pre-76 axle shafts won't work...

My short sides are 17 5/16", and long sides are 29 3/16"...

And I still need one of each!

So now I guess I'm narrowed down to a '76-'84 front axle for shafts... :(

You can use any FJ40 inners from 68-84 they are all the same the only part that changes in 76 is the birfield itself the ones that won't work are the pre 68 inners

Ponti, that's what I thought too... But my cruiser-guru that built the front axle says that the knuckles are different (wider maybe), requiring the length of axle shaft I listed... I'm sooo confused now. :confused:

Can anyone with a spare set of shafts measure them PLEASE??? I'd realllly appreciate it.

Next step is to go to the stealer and see if the part numbers are the same, or cross-reference to each other.

If you need ONLY inner shafts, and you don't care what birfield is on the end, then anything from 1968/69 up thru 1983 will work. ALL inner FJ40 and FJ55 shafts are the same in the front axle.

This is from someone who junked his 77 shafts, then junked a 74 replacement inner, then junked a 72 replacement inner, and is on his last 69 replacement inner. They are ALL the same.

Birfields (outer shafts) differ. Drum front axles have coarse (10) spline outers. Disc 76-78 run a goofy birfield with a slightly smaller bell diameter and a slightly longer shaft length. (like 1/4" or so) 79+ FJ40/55/60/62 birfields and ALL minitruck birfields are identical and interchangable. I've got all these on the shelf too....

Oh, and the knuckles are different - but who cares. Has nothing to do with the inner axle shaft.

You may wish to rely on a different local cruiser-guru. heh heh

I'll reiterate Pontiota's info.

The fj40 inner axles are the same from the time the ball and forks were dropped, 1968. All are fine spline on both ends, and the same length. The fj60 short side inner is the same as the short side fj40. No known difference in strength on any of these, they are ALL THE SAME!

The birfs are different, this (the differences) has been posted here before. Are we using the term "axle shafts" to define the entire assembly, birfs and inners? Most of us define them individually, since they can be seperated.

Thanks for the polite bitch-slapping.:flipoff2:

You're saying what I believed too..
I just needed the assurance, as I was basically told to go f&%k myself by a knowledgable guy (but noone knows everything!) for picking up this drum brake axle, which was "out of a 71".. well, damn thing had fork & ball inside. I wish it had birfs sooo bad, so I could pull the inner shafts and show him that they work! (He swore that the inners from a drum brake axle wouldn't work)

And yeah, I don't give a damn about the birfs. I have 79+ style newfields, and I am just referring to the inner axle shafts.

Thanks very much, I'll shut the hell up now, and quietly go about my search for 2 inner axle shafts.

anytime you need a polite bitch slapping, you just let us know...heh heh

it's always funny how many experts are out there...

and believe me, I've been bitch-slapped for what I thought I knew more than once....

The 71 axle should have had the correct inner shafts....sounds like your seller was a putz and had a 67-older model.

Well, he stripped the axle off a '71, so he assumed it was a '71 axle... and you know what happens when you assume!