: DIY beadlocks are done


rticul8_94yj
03-17-2007, 09:18 PM
It's not very hardcore to me so I put in here. Both sets of beadlocks are from venders on this board and the kits where very nice. Thanks to both venders.:smokin: :smokin:

First a pic of the jig I made so I could spin the rim while I welded it. The next is of the rim on the jig.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f378/H8PVMNT/Jeep%20work/100_3634.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f378/H8PVMNT/Jeep%20work/100_3636.jpg

This is the rim after I took the flapper wheel and wire wheel to it to get the paint off so I could weld to it.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f378/H8PVMNT/Jeep%20work/100_3638.jpg

A few pics of the welds on my rims and on Chris McTJ's rims. Mine are black 17's his are chrome 15's. My beadlocks are from off-road overstock and his are from great lakes off-road.

We started out with the rings clamed to the rim and tack welded them every 6 inches around the rim. I didn't get any pics of that part.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f378/H8PVMNT/Jeep%20work/100_3641.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f378/H8PVMNT/Jeep%20work/100_3640.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f378/H8PVMNT/Jeep%20work/100_3644.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f378/H8PVMNT/Jeep%20work/100_3643.jpg

rticul8_94yj
03-17-2007, 09:18 PM
A pic of the wheel after RTV and paint.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f378/H8PVMNT/Jeep%20work/100_3642.jpg

A few of pics of us putting them together and the finished rims with the beadlocks all done.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f378/H8PVMNT/Jeep%20work/100_3649.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f378/H8PVMNT/Jeep%20work/100_3647.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f378/H8PVMNT/Jeep%20work/100_3648.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f378/H8PVMNT/Jeep%20work/100_3650.jpg

A few shots of my shock towers...Not all done yet I have a brace to add and a bar over the engine to add. But you get the Idea.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f378/H8PVMNT/Jeep%20work/100_3651.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f378/H8PVMNT/Jeep%20work/100_3652.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f378/H8PVMNT/Jeep%20work/100_3654.jpg

It was a long ass day. We did 8 rims and it took us about 6 hours to get them all done. So it's been a full day and the beads are air tight. I guess I can weld good sometimes.:grinpimp: :grinpimp:

rticul8_94yj
03-17-2007, 09:26 PM
Here are a couple more in progress shots and a couple of them on the other jeep.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e87/mctj/IMG_2222Medium.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e87/mctj/IMG_2218Medium.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e87/mctj/IMG_2234.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e87/mctj/IMG_2233.jpg

UCTJ
03-17-2007, 10:29 PM
Looks good..I like the OD paint job on your shocks.

DevinB
03-18-2007, 10:40 AM
How much weight do you think that adds to each rim? I'm wanting to do the same, but worried about the weight of a 37" tire and beadlocks on a low pinion D44.

rticul8_94yj
03-18-2007, 03:34 PM
How much weight do you think that adds to each rim? I'm wanting to do the same, but worried about the weight of a 37" tire and beadlocks on a low pinion D44.

My guess would be about 15 to 20 pounds. I used to run 37 inch MTR's and they where about 20 pounds more than my IROK's so I just made up the difference I guess.:grinpimp:

rticul8_94yj
03-18-2007, 03:41 PM
Looks good..I like the OD paint job on your shocks.

I need to do an update in my paint thread. The OD rattle can is holding up great after a few months of abuse on the rest of the jeep so I painted the 5150's with the same stuff.:D

DevinB
03-19-2007, 08:01 AM
My guess would be about 15 to 20 pounds. I used to run 37 inch MTR's and they where about 20 pounds more than my IROK's so I just made up the difference I guess.:grinpimp:

So Iroks are 20lbs lighter than MTRs, huh? When I go to 37's, I was going to decide between the MTRs and Iroks, whichever was lighter. You just answered that question, thanks.

rticul8_94yj
03-19-2007, 12:06 PM
So Iroks are 20lbs lighter than MTRs, huh? When I go to 37's, I was going to decide between the MTRs and Iroks, whichever was lighter. You just answered that question, thanks.

In 17's they are. The 37x12.50r17 MRT's E load range ones are HEAVY. I have no idea if it's trure for 15's.

sharpie1k
03-19-2007, 12:30 PM
did you weld the hub onto the jackstand? :confused: or did you ghetto-rig it some other way. nice idea, if you have a lot of spare jackstands, I guess.

rticul8_94yj
03-19-2007, 12:41 PM
did you weld the hub onto the jackstand? :confused: or did you ghetto-rig it some other way. nice idea, if you have a lot of spare jackstands, I guess.

I tack welded it to the stand. It came back off with one good hit of my hammer. I have a few extra stands and hubs just sitting around. That's what gave me the idea.

zenjeep
03-19-2007, 12:42 PM
did you weld the hub onto the jackstand? :confused: or did you ghetto-rig it some other way. nice idea, if you have a lot of spare jackstands, I guess.


jack stands are cheap, everyone should have extra.

DevinB
03-19-2007, 02:12 PM
In 17's they are. The 37x12.50r17 MRT's E load range ones are HEAVY. I have no idea if it's trure for 15's.

That works, I want 17" rims anyway. Is that what you're running? If so, what rims are those?

Thanks-

rticul8_94yj
03-19-2007, 03:01 PM
http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?N=700+400292+306459+4294793320+42949 06458+4294906456+115+4294795098&autoview=sku That's the rim I'm using.

sharpie1k
03-19-2007, 03:02 PM
jack stands are cheap, everyone should have extra.

I have four, two for holding up the Jeep, two for holding up the 44 that is being rebuilt. I should have more, but I don't.

Po' riggity
03-19-2007, 08:54 PM
Beadlocks look outstanding.. My question to you is, exactly what brand of OD green is that? I really LOVE the way that came out, and Ive been looking for an OD green identical to that in a spray can.
Scott

Raskull
03-20-2007, 12:54 AM
Looks awesome, what brand of DIY beadlocks are those? Is it just a kit you buy, ready for wealding?

rticul8_94yj
03-20-2007, 03:18 AM
Beadlocks look outstanding.. My question to you is, exactly what brand of OD green is that? I really LOVE the way that came out, and Ive been looking for an OD green identical to that in a spray can.
Scott


http://www.krylon.com/main/product_template.cfm?levelid=5&sub_levelid=12&productid=1868&content=product_details

I got it at wal-mart of all places.:D

rticul8_94yj
03-20-2007, 03:21 AM
Looks awesome, what brand of DIY beadlocks are those? Is it just a kit you buy, ready for wealding?


The green ones are here http://www.offroadoverstock.com/store.cfm?page=main&cat=31&afid=&

The yellow ones are here http://www.greatlakeoffroad.com/bead.html

Both are kits ready to weld in.

butch6924
03-20-2007, 06:56 AM
I love the SUA and 37/36's. Hows the front 30 holding up? It looks a bit overwhelmed.

Got any more pics of the jeep and how it's set up? I'm working up f/r tube fenders to clear 35's with a 3" lift and would love to know a bit more about how you've got yours set up.

phattdraggon
03-20-2007, 07:27 AM
those turned out great.

sceep
03-20-2007, 07:46 AM
did you tack the nuts onto the inner ring, or use nutserts, or are they threaded??

K-Rigg
03-20-2007, 08:05 AM
Also check out Copperhead Fab's beadlocks if your interested.

http://copperheadfab.com/index.php?action=catview&cat=Weld%20on%20Beadlocks

biggreentj
03-20-2007, 10:34 AM
looks good, i could have sworn those were TJ Kens design.

rticul8_94yj
03-20-2007, 03:50 PM
I love the SUA and 37/36's. Hows the front 30 holding up? It looks a bit overwhelmed.

Got any more pics of the jeep and how it's set up? I'm working up f/r tube fenders to clear 35's with a 3" lift and would love to know a bit more about how you've got yours set up.


I'm a light foot when it comes to wheeling so the 30 is holding up ok. It has lots of turd polish on it. I know it's on barrowed time just need to get the fundage to build the axle I want.:eek:

rticul8_94yj
03-20-2007, 03:51 PM
did you tack the nuts onto the inner ring, or use nutserts, or are they threaded??

We used pinch nuts or lock nuts or whatever you call them. I don't think they are goind to back off at all.

rticul8_94yj
03-20-2007, 03:58 PM
I love the SUA and 37/36's. Hows the front 30 holding up? It looks a bit overwhelmed.

Got any more pics of the jeep and how it's set up? I'm working up f/r tube fenders to clear 35's with a 3" lift and would love to know a bit more about how you've got yours set up.


4.5" RE lift with 1" body lift SUA with the shackle in front. The front is bump stopped just enough so the tires just touch the bottom of the tube fenders. The front has also been moved forward 1" over stock. The rear is set up with BDS 5 inch leafs and the leaf mounts where pushed back 2" so I'm 2 " over stock not much but just enough to give me a bit of an edge on some stuff. As for the SUA I'm going to try to stay that way as long as I can. My next step will be 4 link and coilovers but my budget will not allow that just yet. I'll get some pics when I take it out this weekend and post them up.

rticul8_94yj
03-20-2007, 04:03 PM
Also check out Copperhead Fab's beadlocks if your interested.

http://copperheadfab.com/index.php?action=catview&cat=Weld%20on%20Beadlocks


They also have a very good kit. What ever you do DO NOT ORDER FROM ROCK CITY FAB. I waited a month for my kit he never returned my e-mails, phone messages, PM's, IM's and snail mail. I had to do a charge back on my CC to get my money back. Kind of sad but I had to do what I had to do. I'm happy with the kit I got from overstock and would do it again on my next set or rims and tires in a heart beat.

BerzerCO
03-20-2007, 06:20 PM
I got mine at offroad overstock as well for $229 delivered.
After welding them up I soaped up the weld bead & hit it with air from inside.
Then I fixed my pinhole leaks :rolleyes:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/BerzerCo/1174437965.jpg

sceep
03-21-2007, 06:42 AM
We used pinch nuts or lock nuts or whatever you call them. I don't think they are goind to back off at all.

i waswondering more if you tackked the nuts on so you didnt have to have a wrench and a socket. Just ease of installation/removal.

Little Jeep
03-21-2007, 07:51 AM
A pic of the wheel after RTV and paint.

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It was a long ass day. We did 8 rims and it took us about 6 hours to get them all done. So it's been a full day and the beads are air tight. I guess I can weld good sometimes.:grinpimp: :grinpimp:

Stupid question alert!!

I hear all the time that welds on beadlocks need to be air tight, but for the life of me, I can't figure out why? The tire's bead seals behind the lip of the wheel rim, not the welded ring...correct?? (same as if on a normal wheel?). The outer ring simply bolts to the ring that was welded to the wheel and literally holds the tire in place to keep it's seal with the rim of the wheel... correct?? What am I missing that requires air tight welds? :confused:

rticul8_94yj
03-21-2007, 08:16 AM
Stupid question alert!!

I hear all the time that welds on beadlocks need to be air tight, but for the life of me, I can't figure out why? The tire's bead seals behind the lip of the wheel rim, not the welded ring...correct?? (same as if on a normal wheel?). The outer ring simply bolts to the ring that was welded to the wheel and literally holds the tire in place to keep it's seal with the rim of the wheel... correct?? What am I missing that requires air tight welds? :confused:


It's hard to explain but the welds are behind and to the inside of the rim in relation to the tire and need to hold air (trust me on this one). If I take mine apart I will take pics to show you.

rticul8_94yj
03-21-2007, 08:17 AM
i waswondering more if you tackked the nuts on so you didnt have to have a wrench and a socket. Just ease of installation/removal.

It wasn't to bad having to put a wrench inside the rim. It's gonna suck either way. Lots of bolts and nuts.:grinpimp:

sodapop
03-21-2007, 12:06 PM
Stupid question alert!!

I hear all the time that welds on beadlocks need to be air tight, but for the life of me, I can't figure out why? The tire's bead seals behind the lip of the wheel rim, not the welded ring...correct?? (same as if on a normal wheel?). The outer ring simply bolts to the ring that was welded to the wheel and literally holds the tire in place to keep it's seal with the rim of the wheel... correct?? What am I missing that requires air tight welds? :confused:


If I'm understanding you correctly.....

The tire's bead does not sit inside the rim like it would without a beadlock. The tires bead actuall sits outside the rim against the weled on ring. Then the outer ring is bolted to the inner welded ring with the bead between the two rings making a bead sandwich.

rticul8_94yj
03-21-2007, 01:57 PM
If I'm understanding you correctly.....

The tire's bead does not sit inside the rim like it would without a beadlock. The tires bead actuall sits outside the rim against the weled on ring. Then the outer ring is bolted to the inner welded ring with the bead between the two rings making a bead sandwich.

Yes sir.:D

Little Jeep
03-21-2007, 04:55 PM
If I'm understanding you correctly.....

The tire's bead does not sit inside the rim like it would without a beadlock. The tires bead actuall sits outside the rim against the weled on ring. Then the outer ring is bolted to the inner welded ring with the bead between the two rings making a bead sandwich.

Thank you, you answered my question. However, while I'm asking stupid questions, I'll ask one more. The welded ring and the bolted ring hold the front bead of the tire. What holds the rear bead to the rear flange on the back side of the wheel?

sodapop
03-21-2007, 06:41 PM
Thank you, you answered my question. However, while I'm asking stupid questions, I'll ask one more. The welded ring and the bolted ring hold the front bead of the tire. What holds the rear bead to the rear flange on the back side of the wheel?

just the standard bead flange on the inside of the rim. there is much less stress on that bead than the outside bead. Some rims use and internal double beadlock to hold both inner and outer beads on. Look at some of the hummer h1 rim post to see how they work I'd try to explain it but it's hard without pictures.

BerzerCO
03-21-2007, 07:44 PM
Thank you, you answered my question. However, while I'm asking stupid questions, I'll ask one more. The welded ring and the bolted ring hold the front bead of the tire. What holds the rear bead to the rear flange on the back side of the wheel?

Having the outer bead mechanically bolted to the wheel causes the inner bead to stay round & "squared up" with the rim............usually :rolleyes:

jeepinandy
03-25-2007, 07:17 AM
Thank you, you answered my question. However, while I'm asking stupid questions, I'll ask one more. The welded ring and the bolted ring hold the front bead of the tire. What holds the rear bead to the rear flange on the back side of the wheel?


The bead seat on the inside of the rim has a larger "flat" surface for the bead to sit on (not the rim lip itself). The tire bead would have to move alot further toward the middle of the rim to lose bead on the inside. I couldn't find an actual pic of a rim so I drew this up real quick... hope it explains it for ya..

http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m319/jeepinandy/rim.jpg

biggreentj
03-25-2007, 08:05 AM
nice drawing,
i dont know if i agree, but nice drawing

Pat98TJ
08-28-2007, 01:15 PM
I got mine at offroad overstock as well for $229 delivered.
After welding them up I soaped up the weld bead & hit it with air from inside.
Then I fixed my pinhole leaks :rolleyes:
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o106/BerzerCo/1174437965.jpg

:smokin:

moneypit94
08-28-2007, 01:47 PM
beadlocks r in me near future and i def like how yours came out. question tho...how bad is the coning affect on your locks??

biggreentj
08-28-2007, 02:25 PM
beadlocks r in me near future and i def like how yours came out. question tho...how bad is the coning affect on your locks??

check KORE4x4customs.com
i have had his (kenneth) and they hardly cone, which isnt a bad thing. you cant beat the deal KORE has.

rticul8_94yj
08-28-2007, 03:24 PM
beadlocks r in me near future and i def like how yours came out. question tho...how bad is the coning affect on your locks??


Not bad at all. Maybe 1/4 to 1/2 inch and the rings on mine are BIG.

moneypit94
08-29-2007, 10:30 PM
good to know. i know that is an issue with DIY locks. ken PM'd me. awesome guy. thanks for the great tech:smokin: