101 or uni mog [Archive]

Agrover

03-24-2007, 05:25 PM

Unless you want the 101 to have as a rare collectors item I'd suggest going for the Mog. 101's have quite a few design deficiencies that make them a less than Ideal vehicle for many purposes. Lack of suspension articulation means that even with lockers fitted front and rear, they make a meal of relatively easy obstacles. Front end shackle placement combined with high longditudal C of G causes the front end to rear up on steep difficult climbs, and the propensity to perform handstands on steep dropoffs is not confidence inspiring either. Driveshaft vibration on road due to excessive operating angles is standard, and greasing the UJ's every 100 miles gets old in a hurry. Even for relatively small people the driving compartment is cramped, and repeated entry and exits such as would occur on a group trip off road becomes very tiring.Low geared steering is vague and tedious. PS conversions Toyota LC box plus a suitable 90 degree gearbox are possible but a little more complicated than for conventional Rovers. Access to mechanical components is very good ,except for the hardbodied versions which can be very difficult in some cases. Like all LandRovers the chassis frame can rot very quickly in certain environs.The bodywork lasts well aside from the doors.

Stock 404 Mogs are a little slow and underpowered, and the large gaps in the upper gear ratios make it difficult to maintain a reasonable average speed on highway in hilly terrain, but the superb engineering that went towards making them a true crosscountry vehicle is the main reason I would take one Mog over six 101's. They are definately more difficult to work on but were built to last and require attention much less frequently. The chassis frames are made from real steel and dont generally rot but the cabs, particularly the Sth American built ones can rot surprisingly quickly.


Pirate4x4.Com > Brand Specific Tech > Land Rover > 101 or uni mog PDA : 101 or uni mog dhkcoatings 03-19-2007, 03:53 PM one project finished and one more to go.... but in the mean time ... chance to buy either of these two trucks, forward control or unimog... which would you pick? ... the 101 has been completly redone . the uni mog will need to have work done to it.... wilsby 03-19-2007, 03:56 PM What do you want to do with it? What mog? RoverDan 03-21-2007, 04:58 AM What do you want to do with it? What mog? X2 depends on your intended use. The mog is a fair bit larger and heavier built than the 101. SaundersRacing 03-23-2007, 06:39 PM Buy them both then I'll head over to the shop and help you decide.. heeheehee... I'm back!!:mad3: dhkcoatings 03-23-2007, 06:50 PM hey ... saunders ... tell me you picked up that 6x6 troop carrier. and have started to plasma off all the army shit and are starting to bend up the tubes for the cage... where the hell have you been.? Agrover 03-24-2007, 05:25 PM Unless you want the 101 to have as a rare collectors item I'd suggest going for the Mog. 101's have quite a few design deficiencies that make them a less than Ideal vehicle for many purposes. Lack of suspension articulation means that even with lockers fitted front and rear, they make a meal of relatively easy obstacles. Front end shackle placement combined with high longditudal C of G causes the front end to rear up on steep difficult climbs, and the propensity to perform handstands on steep dropoffs is not confidence inspiring either. Driveshaft vibration on road due to excessive operating angles is standard, and greasing the UJ's every 100 miles gets old in a hurry. Even for relatively small people the driving compartment is cramped, and repeated entry and exits such as would occur on a group trip off road becomes very tiring.Low geared steering is vague and tedious. PS conversions Toyota LC box plus a suitable 90 degree gearbox are possible but a little more complicated than for conventional Rovers. Access to mechanical components is very good ,except for the hardbodied versions which can be very difficult in some cases. Like all LandRovers the chassis frame can rot very quickly in certain environs.The bodywork lasts well aside from the doors. Stock 404 Mogs are a little slow and underpowered, and the large gaps in the upper gear ratios make it difficult to maintain a reasonable average speed on highway in hilly terrain, but the superb engineering that went towards making them a true crosscountry vehicle is the main reason I would take one Mog over six 101's. They are definately more difficult to work on but were built to last and require attention much less frequently. The chassis frames are made from real steel and dont generally rot but the cabs, particularly the Sth American built ones can rot surprisingly quickly.