: Cheap rear flex..SUA already w/stuff


Eskimo
05-24-2002, 09:09 AM
Until i have the fundage to go SOA, I wanna squeak some more rear flex out of my rig... Specificially, more droop.

I have 2.5" lift Alcan's, and con-fer shackles (braced), and can stuff my 35" boggers right up into the fenders.. DEEP.

But I pick up a rear tire MUCH too easily.

The obvious idea was some hyper-type shackles (I've heard about FC187's, but couldn't find out specifics, and I'd rather support "the little guy")

My shocks are angled inwards, / \ style, and the lower shock mount is straight off the center of the rear axle, as close to the spring packs as you can go.

I'm willing to lose a TAD of stuff, since the tires digging into the rear inner fenders stop me there, and I'll buy some longer shocks. Want to keep it cheap, since my plan is SOA, just not for another 10 months or so.

Advantages (besides the obvious) and disadvantages?

Oh, lastly, it's FAR from a DD, but I do drive it to the trail.. up to 9-ish hours away for Tellico.

Thanks guys.. couldn't find exactly what I needed to know in the search.

Eric
05-24-2002, 09:24 AM
I think you are pretty much SOL if your tires are hitting your inner fender wells.

Eskimo
05-24-2002, 09:54 AM
Well, I don't want more stuff, as you're right..it's pretty much out of the question...I want more droop... I don't see how the fender would play into that...?

Eric
05-24-2002, 10:48 AM
If your stuffed tire is pinned against the inside fender well, this will not allow the other tire to droop too much further (other than tire flex). Remember, your axle generally articulates about the center of the rig. So if you limit one end of the axle(ie. tire on inner fender), the other end is not going to move either. This is because you are not limiting it on the center line of the end of the housing, but you are limiting it at a lever arm on the end of the housing (where the tire is hitting). Now if you limit the the axle somewhere else along the housing (ie. bump stop), the axle may pivot about that point some and allow the other side to droop some more. The lower bump stop will reduce the amount of vertical compression the housing has, but it may help keep the tire off of the fender well. So if the tire can flex under the fender well instead of into it, you can see how there will be more droop for the other side.

Clear as mud?

Eskimo
05-24-2002, 11:06 AM
ooohhhh yeeaaahhh :idea:

Wondering... Since my shocks pretty much are maxed out at droop, (but they are within 1" at full stuff), I'm wondering if getting longer shocks, and nothing else, might help...

The longer, fully compressed shock could act as a bump stop, and allow the other tire to extend slightly farther down... and, sicne the shock will no longer stop the axle from drooping, I might get a little more... hmmmm...

Once I get the new birf installed, I'll try unbolting a shock on the low side (while making a pseudo-bump stop for the other side) and see if it helps... I guess a RTI ramp would be good for something like this.. or the local trail...

Thanks... Might as well just bump the SOA higher up on the to-do list.

I just don't like the idea of the hyper shackle opening up on a hill climb, and I'm NOT about to stop and pin the fawker all the time...

Thanks.

TRD
05-24-2002, 12:18 PM
BUGGY LEAF

Cruiser Ken
05-24-2002, 06:45 PM
Wheel spacers. Will get you out further and eliminate the inner fender rub. Also, I went SOA and I have a set of FC shackles I am no longer using , $65 if you want them.

TxCruzr
05-29-2002, 01:02 PM
I have heard and can see why, that shackles with a brace tend to limit flex, only a tad of course but you seem to want every bet that you can on your SUA setup. Just buy a few feet of steel and lay your shackles on it, mark and cut. If you plan on SOA soon you might not want to bother with that though.
I agree with TRD on the buggy leaf, and its cheap

Joseph A.

arndog
05-29-2002, 02:40 PM
for starts I would rip the brace out of the rear and also check your angle. Your shackle should be in the 45 degree range. next work your bumpstops to provide the best lever arm as already stated. Make sure your spring clamps are opened up and your shackle bolts arent' binding anything in anyway. Im not a fan of shocks being used as travel limiters so I would set everything up correctly first and then purchase shocks or situate shocks so they don't interfer with anything. Everything stated above is relatively cheap except the shocks.



arndog

FIXXXXAH
05-29-2002, 03:51 PM
Ummm... i think getting FC's shackles WOULD be supporting the little guy, since he makes them all himself and sells them to cruiserheads for relativly low prices....

Matt:skull: