Okay folks, less than 2 weeks 'til the kickoff. To answer a couple of questions left over from earlier, yes JackA trip leaders should be figuring out meeting times & places. It's up to the individual trip leaders if they want to publish the meeting time here, or if they want the participants to get in touch with them.

Looks like a couple of these stops have no real interest & will likely be schitcanned.

Hope I didn't forget anyone in this latest lineup:


(1) June 4th, 2002: Hammers in CA - need trip leader
1badjeep (1), 85toyboy (1), Im4yotas (1-15)

(2) June 7th, 2002: Highway To Hell in AZ - JackA to lead
Jeeper (1), Blatant (2-3), JackA (4-5), Crashinaz (1), ZUK (1)


**June 9th, 2002: Farmington, NM – cancelled due to fire hazard

(3) June 10th, 2002: Proving Grounds in UT - Moab Austin tentatively scheduled as trip leader
Eddie McStiff (1), Parker (5-6), Moab Austin (1)

(4) June 12th, 2002: Die Trying in CO - need trip leader
Eddie McStiff (1),

---GILMER, TX canceled per wrngrog's recommendation

(5) June 15-16th, 2002: Clayton, OK - wngrog can’t lead, no engine. Need leader!
FlatTaco (2-3), ScoutsHonor (10-15), Bones (1), OzarkJeep (1)?, LOKNLOD (1)?, Bill Collins (1),
Lance Morin (1)


-June 17th, drive 178 miles to Disney, OK
(6) June 18-19 Disney OK - Matt Green now able to lead again, has help.
FlatTaco (2-3), ScoutsHonor (10-15), Bones (1), OzarkJeep (1)

---June 20, Open date.
-June 21st, 2002 travel 326 miles to Montgomery City, MO
(7) June 22nd : Mud Racing in Montgomery City, MO - lead TEX. No vehicle limits, no max. #, no reservation needed. Thsoe wanting to race need to be at the Montgomery County Fairgrounds by 11:00 a.m. Take hwy 19 North 6 miles from I-70 & it plugs you right into the town & the fairgrounds. www.gumbo4x4.com for details on stop #7
FlatTaco (2-3), ScoutsHonor (10-15), Bones (1), TEX (~150)

---June 23rd at Montgomery City cancelled. Open date.
-June 24th, 2002 travel 322 miles to Attica, IN
(8) June 25th, 2002: Badlands in IN on Troy's Trail lead by Syko and/or Woody
Syko (5-6), EasyXJ (1), Tass (1), postal (1), Scott Mac (1)?, bigjeepinYJ (2), TJBob (1)?, racinhound (1), SpaceGhost (1)


-June 26th, 2002 travel 320 miles to Slade, KY
(9) June 27th, 2002: Slade, KY - lead by Syko
Syko (5-6), EasyXJ (2-3), Tass (1)? , bigjeepinYJ (2)?, TJBob (1)?

-June 28th, 2002: travel 354 miles to Monteagle, TN
(10) June 29th, 2002: Monteagle, TN lead by DRM
minimum one locker, winch, and experience driving off road, these are not "easy" trails - check with DRM for more specifics.
Ryanwhit (1), Syko (1), big4294x4 (1), EasyXJ (2-3), Tass (1)?, Grim Reaper (1), Depdog (1), Keith (1), BigJBear (1), cmaddox (1), little blue yota (1), bigjeepinYJ (2)?, Madmarx (1)


(11) June 30-July 4th, 2002 up to 4 stops in NC - lead by elusive
Ryanwhit (1), big4294x4 (1), EasyXJ (1)?, Grim Reaper (1), Depdog (1), Keith (1), BigJBear (1), GDGMOJO (1) , Gjarret (1), cmaddox (1) for 06/30 @ Tellico – Elusive, is this the schedule????????????


-- July 6th, 2002: Big Dogs in VA - cancelled, schedule conflict

(12) Replacement run for July 5,6,7, - West Virginia Childrens Charity Off Road Jamboree Rockzooki to lead.
www.mountaineeroffroad.org
they will be around 100 or so rigs there, and a few serious trails.
YJ4Rox (1), Papabear (1), rockzooki (1)


(13) July 8th, 2002: Possibly in the Adirondacks - YJTJ cannot set up this run. Looking for replacement leaders or alternate trip!


(14) July 12th, 2002: Paragon, PA - need trip leader - Hoyden scheduled to lead, yjtj might be able to help. emsoffroad also to help. Smitrock might also help.
Metal Mender (4), FlexySammy (1), Tass (1), Yjtj (2), MilspecXJ (1)

(15) July 15th, 2002: Silver Lake Sand Dunes in MI - JimL tentatively scheduled to lead, Jeepinguy also volunteered to help
Jeff 92xj WI (1), Scott Mac (1)?

(16) July 17th, 2002: Trails in MN - possibly lead by Dana27
Jeff 92xj WI (1) , BensonMN (1)


(17) July 20th, 2002: Black Hills - lead by ChinLei & WillyMutt (probably in 2 groups)
MillerMan (5), BensonMN (1)


(18), (19), & (20) July 21-31, 2002 Two-three stops in Northern Rockies en route to Rubicon - need trip leaders


(21) August 1st, 2002: Rubicon - Whitewater to lead (Sillyneck as backup?)
MudBunny (1), CrazyHorse (1-4), CJBWILLYS (2-5), notcrazyjustNuTz (2-3), Whitewater (1), 85toyboy (1), Sillyneck (1), Im4yotas (1-15)

(22) August 5-9th, 2002: Oregon and/or Washington - bashed4runner tentatively scheduled to lead trip in WA, DSI also volunteers to help Kanar/Shoestring/Funny Rocks, but says 2-days min on that - the following has been suggested by Ben W for this leg:

Newest comments from Ben W:
Make it 2 days, call it Little Naches area, minimum vehicle requirements: 33" tires and at least one locker, fullsize vehicles body damage imminent, other vehicles body damage expected".
Aug 5: Browns Camp in Or Ben W & bigblaze to help
Aug 7: Kaner/Shoestring/Funny Rocks in Central WA
Aug 8 or 9: Walker Valley or Reiter Trails in Western WA Ben W to help
MudBunny (1), TJoop (1), tiessen (1), CJ3BWILLYS (2-5), Valentine (1), Paul Gagnon (1), notcrazyjustNuTz (2-3), 85toyboy (1), Erik D (1), Mohadeab (1), Wheelinjp (1) , XtrmTJ (1-3), rob (1)?

(23) August 11th, 2002: Somewhere in BC - Whizzy scheduled to lead
MudBunny (1), tiessen (1), Whizzy (1), Valentine (1)?, Paul Gagnon (1),
cornjeep (1), notcrazyjustNuTz (2-3), 85toyboy (1), BIGBIRD (1), 350TOY (1), Big Bad Pete (1), rob (1)

---Yukon leg cancelled due to injured ColdNorth

TEX

now that just figures....i leave for alabama the day you are wheelin in attica! SUCK! Oh well...looks like a fun trip. Have fun!!!

I can help out if needed with the Paragon run.

Those signed up for the PAP run please email or PM me...lets get some dialogue going to plan this run.

I'll be camping the eve before at Red Ridge located 10 miles away.

Alot of land is being closed due to fire restrictions. I'll find out the whole scoop. Then let everybody know what the deal is. ;)

I just came from a day trip to Attica and talked to Troy about this run planned for the 25th of June. It was the first he had heard of it but welcomes one and all to "bring it" ! He will be there and so will a small group of others (unless we spread the word).

Somebody (maybe Woody) might want to get a list of who is up for the extreme stuff and set some reasonable equipment requirements for Troy's trail. 35"s, locked both ends, full cage, winch, spares and tools, and expected body damage would be my recomendation. There are many other areas to wheel there if you want to make the trip and don't meet the requirements, or don't want damage!

Badlands web site (http://www.badlandsoffroad.com)

Just my $ .02

We'll be at the WVCCORJ with some other local folks - hope to see some of you there.

As for the July 12 Paragon run, we are all set with the park. Admission is $35 per vehicle and $5 per passenger. Please e-mail me at jackiecooper@comcast.net if you plan to attend. I need an idea of who is coming and what you're driving so we can plan trails. I will then send you all of the final details.

Jackie

Who's in charge of the MN ride? I've sent out a few (PM) emails but no response. Who is Dana27?

If that ride was planned for Rolling Stone, that area has been closed. We should work on getting a new location. I can work on that if help is needed. I know some of the group that were responsible for that area.

Someone in the know contact me via PM or email.

mailto:steve@mntoyx4.com

Originally posted by SpaceGhost
I just came from a day trip to Attica and talked to Troy about this run planned for the 25th of June. It was the first he had heard of it but welcomes one and all to "bring it" ! He will be there and so will a small group of others (unless we spread the word).

Somebody (maybe Woody) might want to get a list of who is up for the extreme stuff and set some reasonable equipment requirements for Troy's trail. 35"s, locked both ends, full cage, winch, spares and tools, and expected body damage would be my recomendation. There are many other areas to wheel there if you want to make the trip and don't meet the requirements, or don't want damage!

Badlands web site (http://www.badlandsoffroad.com)

Just my $ .02

I think Woody knows Troy. He has run "Troy's new the trail" before. I personally have only ran the park a few times. I'm glad to see someone has talked to him. I have a trip planned for the weekend after next (8th and 9th)I'll try to introduce myself while I'm there. I look forward to meeting all you fawkers.

TEX:
Take me off the Monteagle, TN list. I'm not going to make that one.

jackie, were you at last years WVCCORJ? How many are coming with you. There should be enough guides for all the scheduled groups so all the PBB can run a couple of trails together.
We have several new trails this year. What rigs and specs so Rockzooki and I can get a few trails in mind for the PBB group?

Hoyden..i emailed ya in reference to the Paragon run.

(11) June 30-July 4th, 2002 up to 4 stops in NC - lead by elusive


Elusive: I see that you will be at Tellico on 6/30, but what are the other stops if any thru 7/4?

Looks like I may be able to make the Tellico run.

Thanks
Ken C

this isnt at all like me, but my wife is getting surgery done on the 26th of june and I will be unable to make the tellico trip the 4th. I will be in uwharrie on the 21-24 june and I'll be able to go back to uwharrie any time in early july as I have off work, but tellico is too far. I was also planning a good mud run and possibly a beach crawl in early july that i can still host....

So whats up with the H2H run? If there is no Farmington run, how about running on Saturday the 8th? When & where are you meeting? A H2H night run would be sweet!

I'm out of the H2H run for sure, as my junk's getting new Dana 60s. You guys should double-check land closures. Pretty sure H2H is on BLM land, which is still mostly open, but you have to cross State Trust land to get to it, which is closed due to fire danger.

My personal opinion is that no one should be out there due to the extreme drought and fire hazard we're experiencing. Also, there are some pretty hefty fines if you get caught on closed State lands. Take it for what it's worth.
Dion

Yes, we had to cancel our crawling event in the Rock Garden near Farmington, but we have some wheeling planned for this weekend with a bunch of out of towners. Will be going to the Garden, anyone that is in the area and wants to go there will be some very stout rigs there and all kinds of wheeling up to insane. Contact Rock Garden 4 Wheelers pres. Steve George at nsgeorge@cyberport.com for where and when to meet, etc.:D

I should be there, unless I have to work, with a friend or two in a cruiser. I dont know if the rig is up for the trail though. Anybody else going?

I'm in for the Badlands for sure and probably Slade. Monteagle doesn't look good right now because of work. Paragon also depends on work but I'm definitely going to try and make it :D :D

Tass

TEX - I won't be able to make the Rubicon trip on August 1st, but still plan on the Walker Valley portion on August 8th and the B.C. portion in August.

ABOUT MOAB...


as far as a fire hazard goes we should be fine...

unless I come up with 2k and 30 hours of free time to wrench my rig is not moving....BUT that really shouldn't be a problem...I have a buddy (acctually the one who named the trail) that may be able to go...or I can do a ride along thing with somone and you can use my dumbass as a spotter/traction device..

one thing about Moab is if plans change for a trail or if any of you are half broke we can go do helldorado/rusty or whatever..as everything is pretty close by....

I guess I can make a minimum requirement guide for any of you who have'nt seen heard about proving grounds..

hear are the basics..it is Tough on drivetrain....need 60's or bigger for sure..(unless you are light or damn good driver)

need 38's and up and be locked up for sure (trail can be done with 35's if your used to moab)

Winch winch winch...(there is a spot for somone else with a winch to get you up...but if you flop or get in a bind you might get in trouble)

PM me or my email is Austin@pirate4x4.com put pirate tour in subject line

or I guess you could post back here with any questions!!! see ya all soon

Listen to all the excuses and bail outs.........
See my post about the AZ leg and H2H.:smokin:

Lance Moring:

Why don't we go ahead and push you over on your side now to get it overwith!!!!!!!!!!

Steven