: HELP can i drill out a leafspring centerpin hole????


800MJ
03-31-2007, 01:53 PM
well i know with the metal bits i have i cant. im making a 1/2 mj 1/2 ranger leaf pack. the only ranger leaf im keeping is the main leaf, and putting 2 sua mj leafs under that. only problem is, the new center pin bolt i bought is 7/16 dia, same dia as the ranger centerpin holes. the MJ leafs (as i find out when i get back from the store) are more like 3/8 dia centerpin holes... the 7/16 bolt hex head will fit perfect in the centerhole on the leafspring perch on the axle, so i dont want to buy 3/8 dia bolts as centerpins cuz the hex head will be to small. is there a way i can make the mj leaf centerpin holes 7/16??? im in a bind. this is my dd. i need to get 2 work on monday.. lol

Pantheus
03-31-2007, 03:12 PM
While it is physically possible to drill out spring leaves, it isn't easy.

The spring metal sure isn't mild steel, and requires several drills to get 'er done.

I tried to drill out 1/4 inch holes to 3/8 to do a similar to your project, I wasted MORE than 3 cobalt drills, and finally abandoned the priject, and replaced the springs.

Spring steel is hard !

Ken

reDWorm
03-31-2007, 03:31 PM
I did this on my scout when i did the spring over.
I used an artu 3/8 bit cobalt and tungsten w/ carbid tip
bought it at tool depot in san diego
use cutting fluid liberally (tons) or marvel mystery oil
keep the bit wet and cool ......go slow!

I also heard people used masonry bits in my searching, but I did not try this.

good luck

Dookey
03-31-2007, 03:49 PM
I use a masonry bit similar to this one...


http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml06/06185.jpg

Cuts through it like butter and they are cheap.

forbergler
03-31-2007, 04:29 PM
A tungsten carbide die grinder on a dremel may be able to widen the holes. It won't be perfect, but should do the job.

respectible heep
03-31-2007, 05:39 PM
I drilled out the center pin to YJ leaf springs. Cobalt bits. Neighbors absolutely hated my ass for the noise :D . Took forever.

Drill press, bits and plenty of lube. Keep the rpms slow.

ironworker378
03-31-2007, 06:07 PM
i used cobalt bits with edge cream it is made by Lbs Labortories it worked great

yotaboy79
03-31-2007, 06:26 PM
run the rpms very slow and dont be shy with the cutting oil

Ellabilt
03-31-2007, 07:28 PM
I just drilled several springs to build my quarter elliptical packs. Yes the masonry bit works. But my best success was a good quality regular drill bit run DRY on the drill press's slowest speed. Night and day difference between wet and dry. With lube, it would cut awsome for just a little and then dull and stop cutting. A fresh dry bit drilled several springs in a row easily. I know this sounds crazy, but this is first hand experience, I wouldn't have believed it if I hadn't done it myself.

800MJ
03-31-2007, 07:47 PM
awsome. i was hopeing that people would have experianced this as well. i had never heard of it so i thought i was a dumb question. i will try a masonary bit tommorow. thanks a lot guys

Dookey
03-31-2007, 08:58 PM
awsome. i was hopeing that people would have experianced this as well. i had never heard of it so i thought i was a dumb question. i will try a masonary bit tommorow. thanks a lot guys

please report back to how easy it is and prove all the wasted dollar, carbide bit buying, slow rpm drilling, oil in out hole junkies wrong. :flipoff2:

800MJ
04-01-2007, 02:35 PM
well the rearends done. the centerpin holes were drilled via masonary bit. i couldnt find 7/16 so i had to settle with 5/8 (all lowes had). my dads been in the metal bussiness for over 30 years and when he saw me using a masonary bit he nearly shit his pants. well he was proved wrong when he tried using his normal bits that didnt work yesterday. i have a bench gringer so i could sharpen the bit every leaf, and twice for the overload springs. slow rpm was acctualy a must. fast rpms caused the blades edge to chip away. i used cutting oil cuz i couldnt afford any mistakes. i only have 9 dollars till the 14th.. ugh. i bought a BOSCH "blue granite" bit and it boared through the leafs at slow rpms no problem.
dont use a ryobi 10" drillpress. trust me. i ended up going to a buddies house 2 use an ancient drillpress that went too fast and chipped the bit away. i ended up finishing them with a big ass hand drill on a wood block, and the bits garbage now. doing it correct from the start wont destroy the bit. but its done. cost me just under $13.

R290
04-05-2007, 04:21 PM
I bought these after watching the guy run them so hot sparks were flying as he drilled through a file:smokin:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=250658&d=1150733033

420willys
04-05-2007, 07:13 PM
die grinder with a cardbie bit works good to hog extra meet out, jason.