: EB D44 disc brake conversion ?


Dennis
05-26-2002, 12:09 AM
Does anyone have a complete parts list for whats needed. My new 37 in MTRs ate my front axles today. While upgrading to Warn/CTMs, I figured I'd do the conversion also. All links to how to's would be helpful.

emsoffroad
05-26-2002, 01:46 AM
First off you can hit the search button for more info.

Here is how I did an EB 44 that I put under an s-10. Swap everything from the spindle out. You can use a 77- chevy/fsj spindle, backing plate and caliper. Then use a Ford hub and rotor. Then you can't use the snap ring on the end of the axle. Or you can swap for a GM/fsj stub axle that uses the same u-joint. Or use a pre 92 TTB spindle, that way you can use the snap ring. All of this stuff is from 1/2 ton. You can make it 8 lug, like I did by using 3/4 ton stuff. Or 6 lug by using all gm stuff.

lala
05-27-2002, 12:59 PM
heres some links i've found. i havent had the money nor opportunity to do it to my 69 EB w\d30 yet. still trying to work out the kinks with new power brakes.

http://classicbroncos.com/disc-list.shtml

http://classicbroncos.com/disc-f150.shtml

Broncrick
05-29-2002, 09:17 AM
Dennis let me look around, I have all the web printouts that I used when I did mine :cool:

welndmn
05-29-2002, 09:46 AM
Just the backing plates and spindles, and calipar from a D44 Chevy, then Hubs and rotors (autozone was the cheapst) for the ford and your good to go.
I have have some misc parts i got from pick and pull if you having problems finding them

ARokCrwlr
05-29-2002, 10:26 AM
You also need to remove the check valve from the MC or swap to a different one. I went with one from a 79 F250-the lines are on the drivers side like stock. The bore is bigger on the 79 MC so it take a good bit more leg to stop, but the peddle is firm.

Ringo
10-23-2003, 12:37 PM
Will these same parts and application work for scout D44 disc conversion?

Oatmeal
10-23-2003, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by Ringo
Will these same parts and application work for scout D44 disc conversion? Scouts, as far as I know, use an eight bolt spindle, an external hub and 27 spline stub shafts. Maybe some Jeep CJ parts might fit............. When fitting the GM calipers to the EB knuckles, you'll have to do some grinding so the caliper has room to slide back and forth, no big deal though. When looking for calipers, you'll want to make sure you use 1/2 ton units because some of the 3/4 ton GM calipers use a bigger piston and you'll have excessive pedal travel with the Ford 1/2 ton M/C (although less pedal pressure:eek: ). I just used a M/C for a '76 and newer Bronco/ F150 and put some sharp bends in the lines to clear the throttle linkage. I also bypassed the original proportioning (bent all new hard lines) valve and ran an inline adjustable one in the rear brake circuit but, ran straight from the M/C to the front calipers. I've been using this setup for about 15yrs and never had a problem. I'm able to lock up my 35'' M/Ts at freeway speeds (not intentially:eek: ) even without power. I would like to add rear discs one of these days, though:D ........Hans

brocbronc
10-23-2003, 11:06 PM
Im thinking about using the spindle out from a 70's power wagon. I havent removed the knuckles yet. They are flat tops and the wheel pattern is 5x5.5. Will these work on the Bronco D44 or do I have to swap the knuckles out?

rmyers2051
10-25-2003, 07:27 PM
From what I have gathered for info-the dodge and scout use the same unique spindle, 6 bolt and all the wrong pilot diameter to fit a ford or chevy44 knuckle. Unless you are doing a dodge or scout stay away from their parts, way too hard to find again if you need to replace something.
I am still trying to find out why a TTB 44 from 89 to 97 Bronco or F150 will not work. Any one have dimensions for those?

Hillbilly
10-26-2003, 12:57 PM
Originally posted by rmyers2051

I am still trying to find out why a TTB 44 from 89 to 97 Bronco or F150 will not work. Any one have dimensions for those?


If I understand your question correctly, you are asking how come the TTB 44 spindles will not work? If so it's becuase the ball joint spacing is different then the straight axle 44 spindle.

Bronchole
10-27-2003, 08:53 PM
The "ball joint spacing" issue has to do with the knuckle not the spindle!

Shaker
10-28-2003, 08:30 AM
Originally posted by Dennis
Does anyone have a complete parts list for whats needed. My new 37 in MTRs ate my front axles today. While upgrading to Warn/CTMs, I figured I'd do the conversion also. All links to how to's would be helpful.

Your in luck I just finished doing this yesterday to a jeep in my shop. Here's what I used on it below.....

Chevy Dana 44 "Flat Top" knuckles milled/tapped for X-over
Chevy "Small bearing" dana 44 spindles
Chevy 1/2 ton caliper brackets & calipers
Chevy dana 44 stub shafts
79 Ford F-150 Ford hub/rotor
Timken Bearing sets Part # Set 37 (inner bearings)
Set 45 (outter bearings)

Then you will be rolling with 5 x 5.5 again.....
:D

Shaker
10-28-2003, 08:43 AM
Originally posted by brocbronc
Im thinking about using the spindle out from a 70's power wagon. I havent removed the knuckles yet. They are flat tops and the wheel pattern is 5x5.5. Will these work on the Bronco D44 or do I have to swap the knuckles out?

Spindles have a different bolt pattern won't work...

Shaker
10-28-2003, 08:45 AM
Originally posted by rmyers2051
From what I have gathered for info-the dodge and scout use the same unique spindle,

wrong 'scouts' mainly have a 8 bolt spindle pattern Dodge has 6 bolt same as chevy

Oatmeal
10-28-2003, 06:08 PM
Originally posted by Shaker


scouts' mainly have a 8 bolt spindle pattern Gee, I thought I said that:rolleyes:

rmyers2051
10-29-2003, 06:03 PM
Originally posted by Bronchole
The "ball joint spacing" issue has to do with the knuckle not the spindle!
Being a machinest and a stubborn hard head kind of a guy that I am------ any body have a late TTB 44 knuckle for me to play with, I have a couple of solid 44's to attempt on.

earlybroncoguy
11-03-2003, 12:34 PM
http://www.mcguill.com/Bronco/discswap.htm

Bronchole
11-03-2003, 11:31 PM
Just tossed mine a few months ago. I looked at it for a bit befor I threw it our. I was thinking of how I could use them for my EB disks. If I remember right the flat surfaces that the ball joints mount to are about 0.5" further apart than on the EB stuff.

Jesse Angel
11-10-2003, 07:07 AM
Just thought I'd theough in that some Scout's came with Dana 30's and the spindles are 6 hole. I'm in the middle of using Scout knuckles and Chevy disk brake parts on my 72 Bronco.

45acp
11-11-2003, 09:15 AM
Originally posted by earlybroncoguy
http://www.mcguill.com/Bronco/discswap.htm God bless you for helping a long time lurker (me). i am in the middle of my home-made swap, and have been scratching my head as to why i cant get the C-clips on. thank you for that link. :D

built4wheelin
11-12-2003, 07:07 PM
i just used the knuckles, spindles, and all brake parts from a '77 F-150. bolt-on with all ford stuff. BC broncos sells a tapered shim to use EB tie rods on the full size knuckles.