: 2.8 chev motor in Zuki.........


zukimoo
05-26-2002, 09:13 PM
"Putting a 2.8 chev motor in a Suzuki?"
one of the local guys bolted up a 2.8 motor right to the Samurai tranny....he got a plate made. He moved the tranny back about 4" and put an electric fan in front of the rad....
what do you guys think and any info on this swap would be appreciated......
this thing pulls like crazy and so far has no broken parts or bad side effects........the thing looks great and sounds awesome.....

I've got the motor and it runs great.....is 130HP not enough? I've been running with 67 HP for about 5years, I'm surely not going with Zuki power again, the engines are getting too rare......

'92 Zukimoo, SPOA with blown motor.......
"Allons fligner la Mud"

mud-magnet
05-27-2002, 06:01 AM
Gaetan, go to our club site and get Ben's e-mail or ICQ and talk to him, he was going to put a 2.8L in his sami, but decided on a 4.3............... not sure why, i think, just cause it was the closest engine he could find..............:confused:
l8r

scwafish
05-27-2002, 06:18 AM
These kind of swaps are goofy IMHO, but if your going to do it why would you use that gawd awful motor????

4x4man
05-27-2002, 01:32 PM
ya,,,,,,,,i agree,,,,a 2.8 sux,thats why i put in a 4.3

Pook
05-27-2002, 03:38 PM
had 2.8 v6 s10 as a daily. would never put that motor in anything or even buy a car or truck with one. :nuke:

mudlite
05-27-2002, 05:04 PM
I would agree with the 2.8 sucks. Too many problems with that motor . And why go to the problem of sticking a V6 in that barely delivers 130 Hp on a good day. If you are going to the trouble, go 4.3 or 3.8 Buik.

rockzilla
05-28-2002, 04:16 PM
if you can get a plate to mate the 2.8 to the sammi tranny, try to get a EFI 3.4 from a 94-95 camaro, the tranny mounts are the same so it should bolt right up with the adapter plate:bounce: :bounce2: :smokin:

mud-magnet
05-28-2002, 04:35 PM
ok, i better say something cause gaetan isn't.............. so here ya go, he already has the engine, its a EFI too.......... so a different engine isn't the question..........
and to all the newbies:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Krylon..
05-31-2002, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by zukimoo
"Putting a 2.8 chev motor in a Suzuki?"
one of the local guys bolted up a 2.8 motor right to the Samurai tranny....he got a plate made. He moved the tranny back about 4" and put an electric fan in front of the rad....
what do you guys think and any info on this swap would be appreciated......
this thing pulls like crazy and so far has no broken parts or bad side effects........the thing looks great and sounds awesome.....

I've got the motor and it runs great.....is 130HP not enough? I've been running with 67 HP for about 5years, I'm surely not going with Zuki power again, the engines are getting too rare......

'92 Zukimoo, SPOA with blown motor.......


I had an '88 Camaro with a 2.8 and It ran good for a 2.8! Dont let everyone here bring ya down on the 2.8's... I ran the snot out of mine and it is still tickin good(my Dad has the car now)... I put a 3" exhaust on it with a Stainless Supertrapp and a Jet Stage 2 chip... It had the 700r4 behind it... That car starts with just a bump of the key til this day, I kinda like the 2.8's!

SeaBass44
06-01-2002, 07:02 AM
Originally posted by Krylon..


I had an '88 Camaro with a 2.8 and It ran good for a 2.8! Dont let everyone here bring ya down on the 2.8's... I ran the snot out of mine and it is still tickin good(my Dad has the car now)... I put a 3" exhaust on it with a Stainless Supertrapp and a Jet Stage 2 chip... It had the 700r4 behind it... That car starts with just a bump of the key til this day, I kinda like the 2.8's!

It's still not a great motor, 1 out of every 10 may like it what does that mean?.......130 hp v6, the new tacomas have 150 hp 4cyl.....so it makes no sence at all. most 2.8's are unreliable POS's, but u may be the lucky 1 out of ten that gets 1 that lasts, I myself would not take that bet.....odds to low for me;)

punkskalar
06-01-2002, 02:16 PM
NO 2.8!!! I ran a Jeep Cherokee with one, then another one, and another one... yes, they all blew up, throwing rods all over the highway... I never ever wheeled those motors, the highways killed them... I eventually did a 3.4 swap which was much better, but damn, don't waste the time, just for a 4.3 if you are gonna invest any money in it at all... You'll be happier...

mudlite
06-01-2002, 02:36 PM
Originally posted by Krylon..


I had an '88 Camaro with a 2.8 and It ran good for a 2.8! Dont let everyone here bring ya down on the 2.8's... I ran the snot out of mine and it is still tickin good(my Dad has the car now)... I put a 3" exhaust on it with a Stainless Supertrapp and a Jet Stage 2 chip... It had the 700r4 behind it... That car starts with just a bump of the key til this day, I kinda like the 2.8's!

Thats all well and good, but if you blew up the 2.8 , would you put another one back in??????? I would think you would upgrade to a 4.3 or a 350.

Why bother going to all the trouble for 130 Hp. when you can bump a 1.3 up to 95 or a 1.6 up to 120. Seems to make more sence to me to jump into 225 Hp with a 4.3.

But what do we know, hey SeaBastard?:D

SeaBass44
06-01-2002, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by mudlite




But what do we know, hey SeaBastard?:D
I don't know a thing............

mud-magnet
06-01-2002, 02:56 PM
hey john, would the 4.3L have the same bolt pattern where the bell housing mounts to the engine???? i want to swap in a 4.3 or some other v6 pretty soon, and i want to use the adapter plate with the stock tranny...........untill i break then realize that i need stronger then i'll empty the money into a 700r4 and duel toy cases........:D

DemoMike
06-01-2002, 04:15 PM
I'm too am not a big fan of the Chevy 60deg V-6, but isn't gonna be a lot lighter than a 4.3? Anyone have any thoughts regarding the 60deg 4.0 Ford?

Root Moose
06-01-2002, 05:53 PM
It always amazes me that because the first couple years of the 2.8 sucked that it is still tarred with the sucking brush when it was sorted out by the time they went to the 3.1/3.4 versions.

Do some research on the different generations of the GM 60 degree V-6, they suck about as bad as a 700R4 (i.e. after a certain point the problems were fixed). What you want is a Gen II 60 degree V-6. the crank and everything else was fixed by then - or so I am told.

I agree with Mudlite though, for the power it will deliver I'd look at throwing some money at the 1.6 instead. Unless you have to have the 700R4. In which case I'd get serious about a 3.8 or 4.3 instead.

r@m

zukibrother
06-02-2002, 04:22 AM
To answer your question about whether 130hp would be enough. I have a 2.8 ford and i feel that it is enough hp for me. but i guess it is all in how you are going to be using it.

I wouldn't get to worried about what people say about that motor, I have never had one(the chevy 2.8), but unless you are going to be putting lots of miles on it, what difference does it make if it only lasts 50k miles. that is more miles than i have driven my samurai since I got it. (Of course during that time i have managed to blow up three different 1.3's.)

zukibrother
06-02-2002, 04:26 AM
by the way, how do you get 120hp out of a 1.6 without spending lots of money? I don't believe it is possible.

Flipper
06-02-2002, 07:00 AM
Has anyone ever seen a 3800 V6 out of a late model Camaro stuffed into a Zuk? From what I hear, it is supposed to be a pretty sweet motor. OBD II might be the big obsticle.

DemoMike
06-02-2002, 12:19 PM
Originally posted by Root Moose
It always amazes me that because the first couple years of the 2.8 sucked that it is still tarred with the sucking brush when it was sorted out by the time they went to the 3.1/3.4 versions.

Do some research on the different generations of the GM 60 degree V-6, they suck about as bad as a 700R4 (i.e. after a certain point the problems were fixed). What you want is a Gen II 60 degree V-6. the crank and everything else was fixed by then - or so I am told.

I agree with Mudlite though, for the power it will deliver I'd look at throwing some money at the 1.6 instead. Unless you have to have the 700R4. In which case I'd get serious about a 3.8 or 4.3 instead.

r@m

I've seen 3.4 crate motors on the web for ~$1800rated at 160hp. A little pricey, but 160 hp in a small V-6 could be

cool.http://www.sallee-chevrolet.com/ChevyV6s/207ciV6.html

mud-magnet
06-02-2002, 04:15 PM
hey demomike.............. what vechical did the 3.4L orignally come in??????? i thought it was in a camaro but was told the other day chevy didn't make a 3.4 and that i'm thinking of a 4.3L........i'm like no, 3.4, not the 4.3, 3.4...........looser.......lol
thanks

Flipper
06-02-2002, 05:27 PM
According to a site on the web.... the 3.4 was in '93 - '95 camaros. the 3.1 was in 90 - 92.

SeaBass44
06-02-2002, 09:29 PM
Originally posted by Flipper
According to a site on the web.... the 3.4 was in '93 - '95 camaros. the 3.1 was in 90 - 92.

I had the 3.1L in a 91 Rodeo, from 67,000 to around 90,000about a year and a half, 2wd it ran great, had lots of power...2wd:) I did have to have the tbi adjusted once it wouldn't idel worth a shit, but I still think it's a turd motor for a swap;)

moto261
06-02-2002, 10:07 PM
:rainbow:

moto261
06-02-2002, 10:09 PM
sorry about that it was dave (DSI) one of the yota boys he does not get it

dan:massey:

DSI
06-02-2002, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by moto261
sorry about that it was dave (DSI) one of the yota boys he does not get it

dan:massey:

why the hell are ya blaming your post's on me ya :rainbow: lover??

x2_rage
06-03-2002, 04:26 PM
TO mate a motor to a tranny, do you makean adpater that makes the tranny bolt to a different bellhousing and then somehow make the input shaft slid einto a sammy flywheel and redriall the flywheel to mount on the Chevy motor????
I've thought about dropping a Toyota 22R into a zuk, but always wondered how to do it.

Hillbilly
06-03-2002, 07:30 PM
I'll add my little bit now, my dad bought an 85 S10 with the 2.8 carb and 700r4. That little motor has no power what so ever, but it'd got well over 250K miles on it. Granted the rear main has started to leak and it needs valve stem seals, but that's it. But when it does blow up or throw a rod you better belive it's not going back in there. It'll be replaced by a 4.3 that's waiting in the wings. Sure it's a alright motor, but I WOULD not swap it in to anything AT ALL! No way! If I was going to do a motor swap it would have to be at the very least a 4.3 TBI.

DemoMike
06-03-2002, 08:29 PM
Originally posted by x2_rage
...
I've thought about dropping a Toyota 22R into a zuk, but always wondered how to do it.

Hell Yeah! But there don't seem to be too much info. out there in the "ether".