Are we all welcome here, or is this just a section for xj guys to post pictures of themselves playing tummysticks with each other? :beer:

all unibody jeeps. dont forget the WK, XK, and of course KJ

It seems like another move by the wrangler boys to try and assert their superiority.


I think they should have divided it by headlight shape. Then CJ/TJ guys would be with the KJs.


Or, they should change the title to being unibody jeeps. Although, my MJ still sits the fence on that one.

Bullshit my fsj says cherokee all over the fawkin thing:flipoff2:

TIMMY!!!!!!! wtf is up dude?!




mj's are pickup's
liberties arent jeeps, they are cars on smack
i dont know wtf a xk is??????

all unibody jeeps. dont forget the WK, XK, and of course KJ

Maybe all solid axle unibody Jeeps. This is supposed to be the hardcore forum, newbies and mild builds should post in the correct places.

Here's an example...
A nice SAS swaped KJ with 60's front and rear would belong here.

A KJ, XJ, or ZJ trying to fit 32's belongs elsewhere...

SAS swaped KJ...
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obvious sign of a turd...you got anything worth wheeling outside thee mall there shitforbrains? :shaking:


edit - as for a SAS KJ I have YET to see Rusty get off his ass ad finish this little jewel

This as in like 2002 :laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing:
http://rustysoffroad.com/mm5/media/shoprigs/liberty01/liberty01.jpg

he'll never finish that.

Here's an example...
A nice SAS swaped KJ with 60's front and rear would belong here.

A KJ, XJ, or ZJ trying to fit 32's belongs elsewhere...

Not the "SAS swaped KJ" you quoted.

:shaking: :shaking:


Get the quote right. There is a big difference between the KJ I described and the D30 equipped one you could build....:flipoff2:


Heres a pic of a unibody KJ that I would gladly wheel....

http://www2.pirate4x4.com/albums/werock_globe07/abi.jpg

A nice SAS swaped KJ with 60's front and rear would probably out wheel your FSJ, so now I see why you are :shaking: at me...

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[QUOTE..you got anything worth wheeling outside thee mall there shitforbrains? [/QUOTE]

Nope I just come here for the pleasant company fawktard:flipoff2:
but I can spell, the

shit shat :D

woah, I can see the frame on that unibody, wtf?


You just think you see a frame, that is part of the unibody. A frame would have a seperate body mounted on it. That clearly has the body and frame all in one - a.k.a. unibody...

Basically all the tube frame buggys you see are unibodys, so guess what a unibody must not be that bad....:flipoff2:

I guess if you say so man, I don't really see much of a body, I would call it a uni-frame before I called it a unibody, I guess under your rashionalization if I took the body off my 06TJ and welded some supports across the frame rails and mounted the driver's seat to it, then my TJ would also be a unibody

I would think a unibody would be something you could not give a body lift to, like an XJ, or a PT Cruiser... however removing the body from a framed vehicle doesn't exactly make a unibody construction

Remove your TJ body mounts, weld the body to the frame and you too can have a unibody.

Now lets see some FSJ, WJ, ZJ, XJ, MJ hardcore tech.

Here's a quote from one of the first paragraphs in your link..."Unibody is a related construction technique for automobiles in which the body is integrated into a single unit with the chassis rather than having a separate body-on-frame."

Your right, it summed it up real quick for me.:flipoff2:

TJP, what are the advantages of a unibody structure? And, do they out weigh dissadvantages?

yeah so welding the body to a frame does not mean that the body was intergrated with the design of the frame. it just means you welded a body to a frame, it does not mean you have a unibody...
there are other things unibodies have that full framed vehicles do not have for instance that lip at the edge of the body where the sides wrap around are intergrated into the floor design, and the vehicle can be supported there too, I don't think you would be so lucky if you tried to jack a ford ranger up from the edge of the body.

unibody is supposed to add overall strength while keeping overall weight relatively low

how old are you dude? you are arguing a point that is not correct.
I am not knocking unibodies at all I am just saying what you told me was a unibody is not.

I never said welding your body to the frame would make a good unibody design, I said it would make it a unibody... I'm stating it would fit the definition of a unibody.

Your link states the definition very clearly. "Unibody is a related construction technique for automobiles in which the body is integrated into a single unit with the chassis(which would be the frame) rather than having a separate body-on-frame."

I stated that removing your TJ body and integrating it to the frame by welding it on would create a unitized one piece body construction(aka a unibody). So how am I wrong? The body would be integrated into a single unit with the chassis/frame. By the way what does my age have to do with any of this?

I'm not claiming a stamped steel unibody is the best. They are light, have a pretty stiff chassis and work pretty well but leave a lot to be desired. I would much rather take your TJ, remove the body build a full tube cage/body on the frame, boatside it, hang some of the sheetmetal back over the tube and have a sweet unibody.

Lift an XJ by the rocker pinch seams and watch them fold. They are not designed to support the XJ's weight.

BTW a tube frame buggy is a unibody.

I put it in simple terms for you, if the main body can be unbolted from the frame it is not a unibody . If it can't it is a unibody.

It doesn't matter if the frame is made from c frame rails, round tube, sheetmetal, or carbon fiber. A indy car is a unibody, as is a trophy truck or a nascar also.

I was joking about the that really being a KJ, but it is a unibody that looks somewhat like a KJ does.

start cutting welds out of the floor of a honda and see if you still have an independent structure...

do it to an XJ and see what happens.

do that to an XJ and you have a piece of crap that will probably bow the second you get inside it, the TJ could still be driven with the floor removed

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http://www.phatserver.net/~chris/XJbuild/111906/cable1.JPG

http://www.phatserver.net/~chris/XJbuild/070206/ww1.JPG

http://www.phatserver.net/~chris/XJbuild/070206/during.JPG

Shit, I better go unfold it before I drive it to the E-town swap meet tomorrow. :flipoff2:

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I guess I'm wrong again. It would fold in half without a floor.:flipoff2:

http://photos-450.ak.facebook.com/ip002/v66/129/25/5102548/n5102548_33552450_4273.jpg

Wait maybe it would fold in half without a body...:flipoff2:

Most people make the mistake in thinking that the xj,s unibody is the same as a compact cars . its much diffrent. the frame rails incorperated into the xjs body are much stronger than what you typicaly see in most unibody construction. i assume that jeep made it that way for offroad travel. it wiil twist however if not crossed braced if the body panels are removed. Jim

this thread sucks.

It doesn't entirely suck.. Thanks to Vetteboy, I figured out how I was going to make my own cable shifter for my D300:D

This is being a little picky, but it cracks me up people regularly talking about welding to the unibody when they mean the frame. An XJ or ZJ does have a frame, it is just unitized with the body......much different than a unibody car. Full size Dodge vans had the same construction type, and the factory called them uniframe construction.......sort of unibody and sort of frame.

XJ's and ZJ's do have clearly distinguishable frames, even if they are also attached directly to the body.

Wow this thread is entertaining. I like reading all of this. I no iv had some bad post in the past but iv cleaned up. Im getting a Jeep cherokee 92, and putting a simple lift on it. So im not such a dork like i was last time. Yes i agree this isnt anything on hardcore stuff and i should move it some where else but i just thought u guys would like to no. Rubiguy

Wow this thread is entertaining. I like reading all of this. I no iv had some bad post in the past but iv cleaned up. Im getting a Jeep cherokee 92, and putting a simple lift on it. So im not such a dork like i was last time. Yes i agree this isnt anything on hardcore stuff and i should move it some where else but i just thought u guys would like to no. Rubiguy


I see you're from Idaho, so you're excused. :D

We don't expect much from XJ'ers that are from Idaho. :flipoff2:

I see you're from Idaho, so you're excused. :D

We don't expect much from XJ'ers that are from Idaho. :flipoff2:

haha real funny :rolleyes: lol. What do u got agenst Idaho?

haha real funny :rolleyes: lol. What do u got agenst Idaho?

I'm going wheeling next week with one of my good friends from Idaho.


I'm kidding......it's a joke. :D

haha real funny :rolleyes: lol. What do u got agenst Idaho?

They can't spell....:flipoff2:

This thread is pretty intresting, alot of people like tjp and that other guy hes talking to. They seems to disagree alot on stuff it looks like they figured it out.

well I will say I was extreemly surprised at his pictures if I didn't see his pictures I would have never believed it. I never really liked unibodies, never had much experience with them either other than driving a tow truck and seeing what happens to them when they get hit, and cut in half... mostly Hondas.
but like I also said I still don't think welding a body to a frame makes a unibody. not that it really matters much anyways.

my girlfriend has a stock 96XJ and it was the first time I saw the cherokee section of the message board so I stopped in to look and saw an oppertunity to make a comment about a jeep compass, and made a joke about seeing the frame of a liberty... that wasn't really a liberty...

Well im not gonna argue with you on anything, so i guess ill just take your word for it. But i do agree on one thing, welding a body to a frame dont make it a unibody. :smokin: