I already put this in the hardcore section a few months back but i figure i would go a head and move it to the cherokee section now that we have one....

My rig as it sits right now:
D30 Super 30 ARB 4.56 gears
Ford 8.8 ARB 4.56 gears
NP231 w/ slip yoke
35in Xterrains
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSC01157.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSC01198.jpg

D60 front 5.13 w/ ARB or Detroit
14boltFF rear 5.13 w/ Detroit
Stak4x4 2spd monster box 5.44 to 1
39.5x13.5x16.5 IROKS
redneck ram hydro assist
custom roll cage
some serious fawking sheet metal work
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF0905.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF0904.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/buisness_071.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF0917.jpg

moved the axle back about 6 inches or so...

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1033.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1030.jpg
overall height
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1031.jpg

I'm in fla right now...i will be working on the box 4 rocks hopefully when i get back should be fun figuring out how to run the shifters...

Looks good. Keep us posted.

Make sure you take pics as you build... With the lights on....:flipoff2:

thats a fuck load of leaf springs in that pack! Did you bastard pack yer rear end? Looks like slight trimming required :smokin:

I already put this in the hardcore section a few months back but i figure i would go a head and move it to the cherokee section now that we have one....

My rig as it sits right now:
D30 Super 30 ARB 4.56 gears
Ford 8.8 ARB 4.56 gears
NP231 w/ slip yoke
35in Xterrains
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSC01157.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSC01198.jpg

D60 front 5.13 w/ ARB or Detroit
14boltFF rear 5.13 w/ Detroit
Stak4x4 2spd monster box 5.44 to 1
39.5x13.5x16.5 IROKS
redneck ram hydro assist
custom roll cage
some serious fawking sheet metal work
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF0905.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF0904.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/buisness_071.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF0917.jpg

moved the axle back about 6 inches or so...

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1033.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1030.jpg
overall height
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1031.jpg

I'm in fla right now...i will be working on the box 4 rocks hopefully when i get back should be fun figuring out how to run the shifters...

Hey thats pretty sweet lookin. How long did it take u to build it?

yeah it's a bastard pack of MJ and rusty's 6.5 inch lift shit...i'm probably gonna pull a overload spring out and see where it sits...i still have alot of trimming to do...i'm probably gonna move the wheel well back about 5 inches and then go from there...we'll see...can't wait to get back from fla and get to work on this damn thing...

still looking badass! and still diggin the project name!

And can we get some more pics of the rear shackles/mounts?

yeah it's a bastard pack of MJ and rusty's 6.5 inch lift shit...i'm probably gonna pull a overload spring out and see where it sits...i still have alot of trimming to do...i'm probably gonna move the wheel well back about 5 inches and then go from there...we'll see...can't wait to get back from fla and get to work on this damn thing...

I did the same thing with a Rockkrawler 4.5 and S10 pack. Kept the long leaves and ditche dthe overloads. I may be putting one overload back in to handle some weight. I also have Deaver spring liner as well.

been awhile since i did an update here's the rig as it stands as of today:

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1128.jpg

HP60 is torn and awaiting custom front truss from TNT Customs (so boys and girls be on the look out for a D60 truss for those HP from TNT soon), also waiting on inner 'C' gussets from BTF and then it's on...

Decided to shit can the Rusty's long arm and get some a little more beefier. I'm on the fence; either build my own or get a claytons (feel free to chime in)--vetteboy shoot me your measurements:flipoff2: you did build your own didn't you...

The Dana 300 got it's 4 to 1 finally and the box for rocks is slowly going together had a few snags but it still is coming together...

Got about a metric fuckton of ideas in my head about how i wanna do the front....i'm think take the fender and do some tube style sort of exo cage thing and then figure out the rear...who knows:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Decided to shit can the Rusty's long arm and get some a little more beefier. I'm on the fence; either build my own or get a claytons (feel free to chime in)--vetteboy shoot me your measurements:flipoff2: you did build your own didn't you

Yep. :)

I'll measure them after work today, I gotta pull the skid down anyway.

awesome....well maybe i will build my own after all....we'll see i really like that clayton setup...

Hey Eric looking good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I finally got all my upper and lower links built, it is very easy once you get a plan of attack and break out the tape measure. Let me know if you need some help man, I learned tons and tons of stuff by trial and error, sooooooo, any help you need I'd be more than willing than to lend a hand.... Here's a preview of how mine turned out.301613

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right on....i just might take you up on that...

Dang thats a nice unlimited.

Yep. :)

I'll measure them after work today, I gotta pull the skid down anyway.

Right around 37" for the front lowers. If you're going to be mounting a crossmember anywhere near the stock bolts you'll be hard pressed to get them any longer than that, unless you stretch the front axle out a whole lot.

Tech to the top BS to the bottom...

Here's what i'm doing today on the rig; i've extended the wheel well about 5 inches by cutting it out and moving it back and then adding sheet metal in between it. Welding sheet metal really sucks ass but i think i'm getting the hang of it... as far as the inside goes it will be covered up and then proffessionally rhino-lined really thick to make sure any holes that i missed are filled it really good...as well as the wheel wells....here's some pics of the progress so far:

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1155.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1153.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1152.jpg

please feel free to add any comments that might help me out thanks....:flipoff2:

Oh, I just posted in your other thread. My bad.

I didn't use anything less than 16-gauge anywhere...what you've got there looks like tin foil. :flipoff2:

16-gauge isn't bad to work with, it's a good compromise between being able to form it easily and being able to weld it. On my rear panels for example...

Start here:

http://www.phatserver.net/~chris/XJbuild/020607/DSC01460.JPG

Midway done:

http://www.phatserver.net/~chris/XJbuild/020707/DSC01464.JPG

After 120 grit:

http://www.phatserver.net/~chris/XJbuild/020707/DSC01471.JPG

http://www.phatserver.net/~chris/XJbuild/020707/DSC01488.JPG

http://www.phatserver.net/~chris/XJbuild/020807/DSC01505.JPG

Just go slow, space 'em out, keep it cold.

If you want a solid long arm kit out of the box, then you cant go wrong with the claytons kit. I have dealed with a lot of their kits at work and I am very impressed with the quality. If you want something custom and have very good fab skills, then build your own. I built my own long arms about 5 or 6 years ago and they are 32" long and mount right under the frame rail just ahead of the crossmember. They have been solid but I drag them all over the place. I am getting ready to build a new XJ since mine is coming appart at the seams (lots of cracks plus it squeeks like a dog chew toy :D ) and I plan on building a new suspension very close to what Vetteboy did and suck the mounts up.

AARON

yeah i used 24 guage, i'm thinkin i migjt cut it out tomorrow and use 16 guage honestly....i thought about that today...as far as the long arm goes i settled for the clayton kit yesterday...i wanted my arms to be 40+ inches and it just wasn't gonna happen w/o a shit load of fab work and right now i'm not ready for it honestly....maybe on the next build....

still looking badass! and still diggin the project name!

And can we get some more pics of the rear shackles/mounts?


Your Just jealous you can't call your jeep that . Lmfao :flipoff2:

Whats your wheelbase currently sitting at and what are you shooting for? You said you moved the rear axle back ~6 inches so sitting about 108" now? Looks good, I plan on doing the same if not comp cutting in the very near future. :smokin:

roughly 6 inches.....4 inches w/ the MJ springs and 2 inches w/ the BTF spring perches w/ different holes....

I'm at about 108.5" last time I measured.

I should (could) have gone another 2" or so further. I don't know why I didn't. I guess because I didn't have a good side view of the truck while I was building it, so I didn't realize I had the extra space. When I do coilovers in the rear I'll probably stretch it a little more.

Thing is I want to do a comp cut for several reasons, but dont want the it looking funky with the tire sitting to far forward and having alot of the body stick further back (if you can picture what Im saying). I'de like to move the front forward maybe 2", but may just move the rear a back. Don't want to make it look too uneven...Chris, Nate says he like his 106" WB on Hulk, but I don't think I could pull off 106" with the XJ. Thinking 108" will be about spot on, but still be not too long for CO wheeling. Back on topic:D...I have a link that ya might like to look through. He has some good pics of trying to do exactly what your doing with the rear fender...

http://rides.webshots.com/album/198754412SUKyoS

:smokin:

that's a good look rig, that's what i'd like to go for the fender job...

Looking good! What are you doing with your gas tank? Going cell or just raising it? I am a bit behind you but hopefully soon I will be at the same stage. Putting 60's f/r, moving the rear about 4 inches and then cutting the crap out of the rear to fit the same 39.5's. How long has your rig been tied up?

ummm for about 4 months so far....i really only got to wheel twice in the last year due to the 21 surgeries i've had to have b/c some fuckin towelhead did a piss poor job of trying to kill me in iraq...suffice to say i do what i can, and what i can't a local offroad shop called AMERICAN POWERHOUSE OFFROAD really helps me out since i'm a vet and all that shit...here's me in true pirate fashion:
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/EricHospitalFU.jpg
i expect to have it done around sept or so....i can only hope...i have tendon relocation surgery that's gonna put me out of the game for about 16 weeks or so...so wheel see...:shaking: personally nuke the place from orbit and be done w/ it...but that's just my opinion i could be wrong...

All gave some and some gave all. Glad to see that you got some left. And living well is the best revenge. Get well soon and thanks for your service.

All gave some and some gave all. Glad to see that you got some left. And living well is the best revenge. Get well soon and thanks for your service.

thanks for the awesome words...in fact i might have that tattooed on me...the living well part...

Bump fo a hardcore vet

Not to affend anyone or anything. Just curious what the thing right under your nose is and on the right side of your mouth that is yellowish color?

X2 on a bump for a hardcore vet.

Sorry to hear about what happened to you man Thanks for the service. The rig looks awesome and can't wait to see the finished product.

Not to affend anyone or anything. Just curious what the thing right under your nose is and on the right side of your mouth that is yellowish color?

X2 on a bump for a hardcore vet.


better to ask, then look like an ass right....it's called zerophorm; it's pertroleum-guaze more or less basically it doesn't stick to wounds likes normal guaze would...they sewed it to my face for the first 2 weeks of my tissue transfer to rebuild my lip....here's a more recent picture of me:
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF0547.jpg

after catchin some a flounder....hahaha...thanks for callin me a hardcore vet

Thanks for your dedication for this country and all the freedoms we take forgranted.

thank you very much...really appreciate you guys and all the kind words...:D :smokin:

got the new wheelin flag for the rig from devil woman flags...here it is:

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1164.jpg

pretty rad i think....should have the inner fender done and painted tonight....

got the new wheelin flag for the rig from devil woman flags...here it is:

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1164.jpg

pretty rad i think....should have the inner fender done and painted tonight....

Gotta Love that . :grinpimp:

I assume you wanted missile to be misspelled?

:flipoff2:

haHA YEAH

after reading your story and stuff, im now headed out to work on my rig.....makes me wanna drive all the way out to VA and wheel with ya when mine is done too. thanks again for serving our country and keepin my ass safe, my debts to you could never be repaid.

the build is looking damn good btw, cant wait to see it done!!

wes

wes you're always welcome when your rig is done...hell i'm always down for a little wheeling....i think i might be getting ahold of an mj here soon...

Your flag is great.

wes you're always welcome when your rig is done...hell i'm always down for a little wheeling....i think i might be getting ahold of an mj here soon...


there is alway 1 or 2 for sale on comancheclub.com will most of the time

I love the title of this build. Any reason the Flag maker spelled "Missile" like she did? ("Missle")

minor screw up theres a new one on the way...

pipe thanx you for serving our country and you got a bad ass xj goin with a kick ass flag.so where u in the army or marrines?

Got a guy in our club that calls his xj the "Shit Rocket" funny stuff.

x2 on the title....saw that...actually made me laugh out loud...

hope you are doin well...and God Bless

pipe thanx you for serving our country and you got a bad ass xj goin with a kick ass flag.so where u in the army or marrines?


contractor doing bomb disposal/UXO since the DOD can't handle all of it; undermanned and way over tasked....but i was in the AF doing EOD for 6.5 years before i got out.........

Tech to the top

the big brown santa showed up yesterday with w/ my new JD2 tube notcher holy shit this thing is fawking nice; trick-tools.com are very nice people, good customer service, took a little while to get here due to the popularity of the notcher i guess....here's a pic:

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1166.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1165.jpg

i will post some pics of it of the shit missile later today of how far i've gotten on the inner fender well...

kick ass on the notcher.... what height are you planning on running at with the 60 front?

Ooo...you sprung for the fancy one. :flipoff2:

I didn't think I was going to need any offset notching (and still haven't needed it) so I just got the regular TN100 notcher. So far so good.

53guy - FWIW I'm at about 7.5" lift on my fullwidth 60 front.

kick ass on the notcher.... what height are you planning on running at with the 60 front?

7.5-8 inches....

Ooo...you sprung for the fancy one. :flipoff2:

I didn't think I was going to need any offset notching (and still haven't needed it) so I just got the regular TN100 notcher. So far so good.

53guy - FWIW I'm at about 7.5" lift on my fullwidth 60 front.

you know how i do yo!!!!:mr-t: :flipoff2:

got the passenger side fender all painted up and stuff as well as my bender remounted and stuff here's a few pics:

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1168.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1171.jpg
yes there's a leaf or two coming out of the packs don't worry...

God damn that looks like shit.

And you should have left Missile Mispelled on the flag. It fits right in when you coined the phrase.

I like the bender idea. Smart.

You did a pretty good job on that fender too. Snap a inside pic.

Also some pics of the D300 and 231 would kick ass.

And guys don't let Eric downplay his roll in the GWOT. For a skinny little runt he is a pretty hardcore little bastard. I for one am VERY glad he is alive.

Also some pics of the D300 and 231 would kick ass.


x2, i'll be running the same setup in a few weeks and i'd like to see if you had any issues getting it to shift right upside down with the cables. Flip kits are for amateurs. :laughing: I'm 99% sure you were the one referring to doing that in the crawlbox thread but I can't remember. :D

53guy - FWIW I'm at about 7.5" lift on my fullwidth 60 front.


Sweet. Trying to justify putting a 60 up front of mine, but I just don't think I'll have the room. I'm going lower and just trimming more, so I think I'm only going to be able to fit a 44 now. Oh well, thanks.

Glad to hear you are back on your feet and giving life hell!

Great looking rig, are you planning on caging now or soon?

53guy, if you are thinking of going 60's, go now before you waste money on an axle you will just upgrade later.

Sweet. Trying to justify putting a 60 up front of mine, but I just don't think I'll have the room. I'm going lower and just trimming more, so I think I'm only going to be able to fit a 44 now. Oh well, thanks.

That's not the lowest you can go with a 60, but I'd say it's nearly the lowest you can go and still retain most of the stock body panels up front. I still run TJ flares right below the crease line on the fenders, just cut to fit the flares, and I haven't messed with the inside fenderwell at all (but the tires do rub the front corner where the battery tray / air filter sit).

It's definitely more than enough height and clearance for the 39.5s though.

http://www.phatserver.net/~chris/XJbuild/051307/DSC01771.JPG

Kickass build, man! Love the rig. You are uber hardcore; really took one for the team. Vets are my damn heroes.

Maybe (hopefully) I'll see you on the trail sometime. It's really not all that unlikely with all of the events here on the east coast.

well i started doing the 231/300 box 4 rocks today; had to cut some sheet metal to flip the 231 to get it into place also, i'm gonna have to drill the 5,6,7 o clock positions on the tranny to make it mount properly....also does anybody know how do get the double threaded studs into the 231 without using the bolts, i tried that and they grab hold and just turn the studs right back out of the t-case...any suggestions would be appreciated....this should be my project for the next week or two...here's some pics so far...stay tuned fawkers!!!

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1172.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1175.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1173.jpg
:flipoff2::flipoff2::flipoff2::flipoff2:

Definatly going to be watching this. That flipped 231 -> 300 is EXACTLY what i've had in mind, now I have the parts, just need to make sure it'll work. :D

Looks good man, i'm a huge fan of that rear wheelwell cut.

I assume you mean one of these?

http://www.nickel-systems.com/stud_fasteners_pics/double_end_studs.jpg

Why not use a left-hand nut under a right-hand nut, tighten them both close together, then use an open-end to turn the bottom one. It will want to come loose, but will press against the right hand nut, and won't want to come loose.

(if you understand what I am saying :confused:)

Pipehitter, did you try a double nut on the stud? Two nuts tightened against each other effectively make it a "bolt". Install the studs, the loosen/remove the nuts, leaving the stud installed.

I assume you mean one of these?

http://www.nickel-systems.com/stud_fasteners_pics/double_end_studs.jpg

Why not use a left-hand nut under a right-hand nut, tighten them both close together, then use an open-end to turn the bottom one. It will want to come loose, but will press against the right hand nut, and won't want to come loose.

(if you understand what I am saying :confused:)


uh....you can't put a LH threaded nut on a RH thread....:homer: doh
but you can do what I suggested.

uh....you can't put a LH threaded nut on a RH thread....:homer: doh
but you can do what I suggested.

whoops. forgot about that part. Sometimes, just the double RH threads though will strip the stud (ask me how I know :mad3:)

just be careful

quido...awesome idea...good lookin out....i will be sure to try that and i'm it will work....now for the fun of drilling the transmission out...oh how i look forward to that....any ideas on how to get it lined up perfectly or pretty damn close to perfect....

talked to Erin at tnt Customs today and Bob said they are still working on my dana 60 front truss....so still on a hold pattern for the front 60....dohhhh

Do you have any specifics on your t-case build? I want to swap either a 300 or an atlas into my ZJ and what your doing seems like a cheaper route than an atlas.


Nvere mind... I found it...

worked on the shit missle for the better part of the day yesterday, couldn't really work on the t-case, i need some new studs, so i decided to put to make some rear quarter panel armor out of some 1/8 inch plate; i put joe the marine on it's was his first fab and he did a fuckin awesome job, thanks joe...i also started my blazer tube doors (damn those stock doors weigh a metric fuckton)...here's some pics of yesterday:

a marine on a mission
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1176.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1177.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1178.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1179.jpg
sexy face for the bitches
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1184.jpg
shell even made a guest appearance for this build w/ a 12 pack...
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1185.jpg
who says you can't use a cheap HF brake to bend 1/8 plate (rated for 16g)
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1186.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1187.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1188.jpg

i will hopefully finish it up this week.....laters fawkers.....

Nice work.:D I just cut out the templates for my rear quarters, but still need to fab the steel. Are you going to build new tail lights? I plan on building some with LED's.

By the way you forgot the Pirate salute. :flipoff2: (I know your hands were full...)
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1184.jpg

Keep up the good work. :smokin: We salute you. :flipoff2:

:D :D :D

Dickwad,

You need to get a set of Transfer Punches to transfer the exact center of the Tcase holes to the Tranny Bellhousing. You can get a set from Harbor Fright for like 30 bucks or less. Hell I found this for 10 bucks...lol

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=3577

I like the armor on the rear. How are you gonna attach it?

Tell Shell I said hello.

What is that shit growing on your chin? We could go on tour as ZZ top impersonators.....lol. I had to cut mine for the summer, ended up chopping 8 inches off....

Nice work.:D I just cut out the templates for my rear quarters, but still need to fab the steel. Are you going to build new tail lights? I plan on building some with LED's.

By the way you forgot the Pirate salute. :flipoff2: (I know your hands were full...)
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1184.jpg

Keep up the good work. :smokin: We salute you. :flipoff2:

:D :D :D

i'm gonna do LED's, just really haven't figured out really what i'm gonna do just yet....need to get behind the light and take a look and go from there...

Dickwad,

You need to get a set of Transfer Punches to transfer the exact center of the Tcase holes to the Tranny Bellhousing. You can get a set from Harbor Fright for like 30 bucks or less. Hell I found this for 10 bucks...lol

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=3577

I like the armor on the rear. How are you gonna attach it?

Tell Shell I said hello.

What is that shit growing on your chin? We could go on tour as ZZ top impersonators.....lol. I had to cut mine for the summer, ended up chopping 8 inches off....

i got a set of transfer punches, here's the problem...i need all the same size punch to go in all 6 holes or else i'm not gonna get a true measurement....see what i'm sayin....

as far as the armor goes i was thinkin about welding in and then i was like oh yeah sheet metal again...so i might make a small reinforcement template and get coutersunk bolts and do that...or i might just say fuck it and weld it...or maybe even monster pop rivets...what do yah think???

to i should get the tube door done on the pass side...sucks only having 1.5 set of hands since the right aint worth a shit...

I'm going to use pop rivits and sheetmetal adhesive. Shouldn't need too big of rivits, they only needed to hold it until the glue drys.

where the hell do you get sheet metal adhesive???

where the hell do you get sheet metal adhesive???

They sell it at home depot, right next to the rubber welding wire.

Lookin good man - I flopped mine pretty good this weekend and blew up more 60 parts so now I have even more work to do. :(

where the hell do you get sheet metal adhesive???

you get it at napa or an autobody supply store.

Here's a link to show what I'm talking about.

http://3m.hillas.com/c-1145-3m-scotch-weld-epoxy-adhesive-1386.aspx

and a link that talks about it

http://www.autobodypro.com/tektips/articles/panel.htm

They sell it at home depot, right next to the rubber welding wire.

Lookin good man - I flopped mine pretty good this weekend and blew up more 60 parts so now I have even more work to do. :(

Nope, its by the plastic welding kits.

interesting.....maybe i will go that route....anybody know where i can find big ass pop rivets....i assume napa would have them too????

as far as the armor goes i was thinkin about welding in and then i was like oh yeah sheet metal again...so i might make a small reinforcement template and get coutersunk bolts and do that...or i might just say fuck it and weld it...or maybe even monster pop rivets...what do yah think???

mine are bolted on using some 1/4" bolts in countersunk holes, with a bigass fender washer on the other side. been slamming them around for a while:)

got any pics of that setup???

interesting.....maybe i will go that route....anybody know where i can find big ass pop rivets....i assume napa would have them too????

Shoot me an IM with what you're looking for. I work for a company that manufactures all kinds of rivets and might be able to help you out. We make some strong as hell stuff.

I planned on using the adhesive to keep the elements out to prevent rust also. If you don't use panel adhesive use some silicone or something to seal it.

Pipehitter-
If you still need studs, PM me your address and I'll throw these in the mail for you tomorrow.

Green is :grinpimp:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/muddyjeep1/studs.jpg

looking good man, i can wait to see it finished.

found some older pics of the shit missile before it went into surgery....circa 04-05 Minot, ND....FLATTEST PLACE ON EARTH!!!! but i still found a place to wheel...hahaha..
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSC00432.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSC00305.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSC00304.jpg

just thought i would share....

Hey in this picture.

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSC00432.jpg

Who's Crew Cab Duramax is that? I must meet this man. I hear he has a large penis and is the object of desire for all women.

Thanks for the pics of the rear guard mod. Got me thinking about my rig. My previous XJ was a lot like yours WAS. Which in Australia was farking big. Anyways jus picked up a D44 and D60 from ebay to slot into the XJ, will be doin custom long arms, pre-runner front guards and now your idea for the rear is da bomb. Jus need to work out a flar idea for the rear. In Oz ya need ya wheels covered. Farking transport people suk!

Keep the pics comn!

Hey in this picture.

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSC00432.jpg

Who's Crew Cab Duramax is that? I must meet this man. I hear he has a large penis and is the object of desire for all women.

or loves getting anally penetrated by large mules...i don't which...:flipoff2:

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http://3m.hillas.com/c-1145-3m-scotch-weld-epoxy-adhesive-1386.aspx
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Yeah, I'd recommend that stuff too. My brother used it on a project and it was fantastic.

I'm not sure where he got it though, and he lives in Richmond, so it may not even help... But I'll ask him when I talk to him later this week.

just got my new rockring from Kyle at Copperhead Fab.....turned out fawkin awesome had him add the Zero Skateboards Skull to the outside of the ring...Here's some pics:

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1192.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1193.jpg

i definately recommend Kyle for any custom plasma cutting work....awesome prices, great work, and great customer service....thanks kyle...i'm gonna have a busy weekend...

got one of the tube doors done today...thanks to vetteboy for the idea...took a blazer tire carrier, cut it apart, and turned it into a tube door....only difference, i used a gate hinge due to simplicity....i've learned what will go wrong WILL GO WRONG...i didn't want to rely on a rusty old tire carrier latch (not knockin the design, just don't wanna trust my life on it)...best part, the in cab light will still turn on and off :D pics:

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSC01253.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSC01258.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSC01256-1.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSC01254.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSC01260.jpg

looks good. I would prefer half doors though, but that's just me. Or Safari doors, without the skin.

Nice progress, Eric. But until you wheel it, I'm revoking your shit-dishing card. You gots no room to say I'm not wheelin!! :flipoff2:

Recovery is going good too. You back to fully functional yet?




-RTCUL8

ummmm not fully recovered....i still got some tendon surgeries i have to go through....and then some face stuff....but no big deal....i'm gettin there slowly but surely...how's the UK...

... But I'll ask him when I talk to him later this week.

Nope... Sorry, but the place he bought it from went out of business over a year ago...

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I like the locks skull's looks great but not knocking but I would have went full on tube doors but they still look great.

I like the locks skull's looks great but not knocking but I would have went full on tube doors but they still look great.

Doing some great work keep it up.

I like the locks skull's looks great but not knocking but I would have went full on tube doors but they still look great.

don't worry...the more i look at them; the more i hate them...just something about them...i think i will go doorless till i build half doors....

don't worry...the more i look at them; the more i hate them...just something about them...i think i will go doorless till i build half doors....

Heck yeah doorless rocks on the rocks:smokin:

Did you already sell your cut out flares?
If you want to let me know.

yep they're gone.....

yep they're gone.....

Darn! :( I'd like a set, but hate to put out $380 for something I might just screw up anyhow.

Thanks

You ever gonna get this thing going Eric?????? We need to get some wheelin' in. Mike (APO) and I are planning A Tellico trip soon. Let me know if you need some help.

let's see here:

second brand new welder took a shit...frame stiffeners are mocked up...claytons's is mocked up....both ready for welding...working on the d300 crossmember there's about a million more things i'm working on...cage is coming up soon....i'll have pics soon...:flipoff2:mike is supposed to help out with some of this, but he keeps giving me the we're too busy excuse...:shaking:

I can tell ya they're crazy busy playing catchup on stuff. Just take your stuff up there and stay on their ass they'll get to it sooner or later:D Like I said if ya' need some help just let me know, hell I'll buy the beer!!!!!!

i work on it every weekend.....if you're free....by all means i could use the help....

just got my new rockring from Kyle at Copperhead Fab.....turned out fawkin awesome had him add the Zero Skateboards Skull to the outside of the ring...Here's some pics:

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1192.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1193.jpg

i definately recommend Kyle for any custom plasma cutting work....awesome prices, great work, and great customer service....thanks kyle...i'm gonna have a busy weekend...

Those are flippin sweat.:flipoff2:
Just like mine, but the added Zero logo is cool.
Im more of an ELEMENT Fiberlight guy, but teh Zero logo is cooler.

Heck if I was close by I would come help either of ya.

i work on it every weekend.....if you're free....by all means i could use the help....

Give me a call this week and let me know when and where, I'll be there!!! BTW, let me know what brand of beer to bring....:D

Please let it be a AB Product:grinpimp:

Hey did you come down to Moab last year with Jon? I know it was an Arctic Off road guy, but I'm drawing a blank on the name

just got my new rockring from Kyle at Copperhead Fab.....turned out fawkin awesome had him add the Zero Skateboards Skull to the outside of the ring...Here's some pics:

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1192.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1193.jpg

i definately recommend Kyle for any custom plasma cutting work....awesome prices, great work, and great customer service....thanks kyle...i'm gonna have a busy weekend...


Those turned out great. :smokin:

Any reason he skipped the one hole? :D

maybe for a valve stem?? sounds good to me

maybe for a valve stem?? sounds good to me


correct....you get a new blowup doll for your prize....:flipoff2:

Hey did you come down to Moab last year with Jon? I know it was an Arctic Off road guy, but I'm drawing a blank on the name

No Nate he did not. He was in Iraq getting his ass blown off.

I expect to pic my prize up next sat. at the coffee run. Maybe one day I will have my junk done and make a trip out to Crozet.

Been awhile since i've done an update, so here goes:

got the TnT frame stiffeners mocked up along w/ the clayton long arm suspension setup...i think it will do well together...

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1232.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1233.jpg

i also got my 12 bolt H1 wheels ready to be mounted, i used USA 6x6 inserts and the skull rings from copperhead fab...turned out pretty nifty...i used a little high solids industrial spray paint on them....

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1231.jpg

i also used the poly insert instead of the chopped up mag inserts

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1234.jpg

here's some pics of the tunnel cover that i fabbed for my flipped 231 for the box for rocks setup....flame away it was my first time fabbing w/ thin gauge metal besides my rear fender...

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1228.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1229.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1230.jpg

so i guess all in all i've been a little busy.....no if tnt customs would get off there ass and get my truss for my d60 that would be great and move the project along nicely...

can somebody also gimme ideas for front tube fenders...the fenders are coming off, but i want some tube there...sort of like a front exo maybe....here's a pic:

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1128.jpg

thanks....

here's some pics of the tunnel cover that i fabbed for my flipped 231 for the box for rocks setup....flame away it was my first time fabbing w/ thin gauge metal besides my rear fender...

Hey that looks familiar :flipoff2:

http://www.phatserver.net/~chris/XJbuild/040307/DSC01625.JPG

can somebody also gimme ideas for front tube fenders...the fenders are coming off, but i want some tube there...sort of like a front exo maybe....here's a pic:

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1128.jpg

thanks....

How about something like this:
311992

Stolen from Flexy92XJ's thread: http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6540865&postcount=56

If you are really going to hammer it, tie into slider and front bumper. too.

like flares?

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y251/sharpie1k/DSCF1128copy.jpg

or an exo? (cut out purple shaded area)

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y251/sharpie1k/DSCF1128copy2.jpg

i like the exo idea...eat shit vetteboy....your tunnel cover looks much nice than mine does...hahaha...nice work:flipoff2:

Cost of shipping and it's yours. It's not really gonna get the job done anymore. :(

http://www.phatserver.net/~chris/XJbuild/062007/DSC01863.JPG

information i could have used about 2 weeks ago...

***No personal experience with this**** but the RC2191 is pretty popular swap for TJ (behind the seat) TJken makes a lock ring to use a stock TJ pump/sending unit. Dunno if they are the same/similar for an XJ, I *assume* they would, since they both run the 4.0L

got the fuel tank dropped today and also this:

lockedupLJ cutting off the roof (i helped too) :flipoff2:

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1239.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1240.jpg

got one of the tnt stiffeners welded on...all in all a good day i guess...

Too much fun:grinpimp: Anytime I can take and cut something up and not have to hear the ol' lady bitch about it, is a good time.:flipoff2:

very nice job man i am wondering what springs you used im building something like this but nowhere as good.

Every time I see that back cut it makes me want to do mine, but then I remember I live in the sierras and that would probably not be good for winter wheeling :)

Every time I see that back cut it makes me want to do mine, but then I remember I live in the sierras and that would probably not be good for winter wheeling :)

Honestly, it's a lot more forgiving with weather than I was expecting. I'm almost disappointed with some things...most of it being the lack of wind movement through the cab. Driving around with the doors off and the back chopped at 50 MPH it's very possible to hold a normal conversation and not have your hat blow off. With the doors on and all windows down, I have to use the little vent window to get any kind of airflow into the cab.

That, coupled with the carpet being gone and the exhaust being crammed up against the floor, means it can get very warm very quickly inside there if I'm not moving. Also even when raining it doesn't "suck" any rain into the cab when going down the highway.

I'm probably going to make a soft top for it anyway, but right now it's still very tolerable.

got some more done yesterday and today....still got a little bit more to go on the tnt stiffeners but they're coming together pretty well...

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1245.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1244.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1243.jpg

also got one of my tires put together....i hate putting together beadlock tires!!! probably one of my most dreaded things....i need a better impact gun...

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1246.jpg

my truss for the dana 60 will be here Friday hopefully...i'm gonna have a busy weekend...hope it isn't too hot...:shaking:

now some real tech begins....got my tnt customs prototype hp dana 60 truss...here's some pics...looks pretty nice, don't know if i dig the shock mounts too much...i will probably just use tabs instead on the end of the spring perch....other than that....i will be test fitting it up at American Powerhouse Offroad in VB....Props to those guys for helping me out with my 60 project....here's the pics so far:

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1253.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1252.jpg

Hustle up! You're taking about as long as me. :laughing:

Looks like that's just about where my shock mounts ended up too...

http://www.phatserver.net/~chris/XJbuild/120306/axle1.JPG

What don't you like about where they are?

Pipehitter

With the speed holes allowing watter/mud and stuff in you truss, are you concerend about rust?
In AZ we dont have any experience with rust, it has afew drain holes to clean it out but it looks like a PITA to clean.
I like the rims, is that littel skulls?
I liked the ones on the CRAWL cover afew months ago, had the mudflap girl on them. I should have got something cool cut on mine...

that truss is pretty nice. how much height does it add on top of the tube for the coil? it looks solid. guessing that goes on a ford hp? and keeping it full width?

i like it alot. depending on the price i might use one of those.

Pipehitter

With the speed holes allowing watter/mud and stuff in you truss, are you concerend about rust?
In AZ we dont have any experience with rust, it has afew drain holes to clean it out but it looks like a PITA to clean.
I like the rims, is that littel skulls?
I liked the ones on the CRAWL cover afew months ago, had the mudflap girl on them. I should have got something cool cut on mine...

i'm gonna use an high strength industrial paint prior to welding and then paint them the best i can and hope for the best afterward...i think i will be alright...yeah they are little ZERO skateboards skulls (my other hobby is skateboarding)

that truss is pretty nice. how much height does it add on top of the tube for the coil? it looks solid. guessing that goes on a ford hp? and keeping it full width?
i like it alot. depending on the price i might use one of those.

it's the same price as the D44 TnT customs offers as far as i know and yes it's for a HP 60....if it's adds any hieght it's no more than about an half inch...

here's the pics from APO with it sitting on the bare 60....man i can't wait to get this thing together...

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1254.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1255.jpg

How much does that Truss weigh? Looking good homolope

Thats a sweet truss. It really takes alot of the time and hassle of welding on the standard mounting points and looks good to boot

Hey Fucker, I think that is my ratchet strap.....theiving asshole.

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1252.jpg

probably is....it weighs about 15-20lbs...no heavy really i think....

Hey Fucker, I think that is my ratchet strap.....theiving asshole.

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1252.jpg

Feel the pirate love:laughing:

Feel the pirate love:laughing:

I feel it! great fucking thread, laughed the whole way through. love the name, I wish i thought of it :flipoff2:.

keep up the good work.

Any updates?

been to hot to work, i just picked up a sammi to wheel a little...i also have a tendon surgery coming up that's gonna put me out of the game for about 2 months and then i go to baja w/ peak empire to do chase team stuff...hopefully i will get it rolling in sept...that's my goal anyway....we'll see...:confused:

Poor Jeep set aside for a Sami:shaking:. Good luck with the surgury.

my xj will never get set aside for a sammi...i bought the sammi to wheel while i'm building the XJ...i can't do this not wheel for 2 years while i build my XJ shit like some guys do...screw that...

maybe i missed it, why arent you going with the infidel rock rings now? i saw you got the skull ones and those are the ones welded on, so im just lost on why the infidel ones got scraped.......

project is looking great

wes

picked up a set of 12 bolt rims for free and i was able to sell the infidel ones to cover the cost of the skull ones...

kick ass build

I missed it, what size boggers are you going with?

39.5inch IROKS

oh, I just assumed because I saw the boggers behind the 60 in the pic on the last page.

Looks good - you've made a lot of progress since I saw it. Let me know if you ever come down to Tellico.

Yeah it would be nice to wheel with you if you come down this way but I dont think the Bronco will be back up for a while.:shaking:

don't worry the missle won't be either...i'm gonna try and take my time on this one...

a lil something to chalk up on the board of WTFs
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1326.jpg
god i love waking up from surgery all loaded on morphine only to find shit like this:eek::shaking::flipoff2:hahaha

i got this today...
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1331.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1328.jpg

4 weeks in this shit...:shaking::flipoff2:

Wtf happened to your arm?

Thanks to TNT customs for giving me some good design ideas for my truss.

i was hit by a bomb in iraq and now the doc is playing puppet master with my tendons to make them work again....

i was hit by a bomb in iraq and now the doc is playing puppet master with my tendons to make them work again....
Are you right handed? :eek:
That sucks.

Hope all goes well.

nope i'm actually a lefty...

truss is finally on...will get it put together when i get this damn thing off my hand...:shaking:

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSC01290-1.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSC01291-1.jpg

Can I ask you how much that truss was? And does the company that made it have a website or a phone number? I would like to have one done up for my GM 60.

$169 tntcustom.com

Thats truss looks great.

I've enjoyed reading your build thread so far, pipe, nicely built rig :smokin:

Hope the doc's work on yer tendons heals proper :)

Pipehitter155- How's the recovery going? I hope the docs put all the parts back in the right place :flipoff2:

Why is the truss not a closer fit to the center section so you can weld it?

Why is the truss not a closer fit to the center section so you can weld it?

the truss is not designed to be welded to the center section. it makes it easier to adjust pinion angle when you set it up. the whole point the tnt truss is a tape measureless setup.

plus the center section is cast, and the truss is mild steel and you will not be able to weld to it anyway without the weld cracking (unless you use a nickel rod??, idk)

the truss is not designed to be welded to the center section. it makes it easier to adjust pinion angle when you set it up. the whole point the tnt truss is a tape measureless setup.

plus the center section is cast, and the truss is mild steel and you will not be able to weld to it anyway without the weld cracking (unless you use a nickel rod??, idk)

I believe a 60 center section in nodular which makes it easier to weld with pre and post heating, but I'm not 100% positive. Can't you adjust pinion angle with the adjustable joints?

Pipehitter155- How's the recovery going? I hope the docs put all the parts back in the right place :flipoff2:

everythings going good....i finally got the combat cast off thank god!!!! now i'm gettin my body prepared physically for baja...i was lucky enough to picked up by a good buddy to run in chase truck with Peak Empire....should be pretty fun...and workin on a samurai for winter wheelin so i can really take my time on the shit missile....work on the shit missile should resume in about a month or so...

What are you going to do for your panhard mount?

edit: great build so far, and thanks for serving in the armed forces. My brother just went over to Iraq 5 days ago. got a call/email from him from Kuwait, but he couldn't/didn't tell us where he is actually ending up. Hopefully he makes it back safe.

Can't you adjust pinion angle with the adjustable joints?

Yeah, but why? If you're going through the whole front axle build hassel, why not do it right? And this way you can get upper mounts done and pinion angle correct at the same time. And joints can only correct so much of a pinion angle and then they can only correct for either pinion angle or castor angle and then you'll have to compromise one of them for the other. Do it right, get them both in.

Yeah, but why? If you're going through the whole front axle build hassel, why not do it right? And this way you can get upper mounts done and pinion angle correct at the same time. And joints can only correct so much of a pinion angle and then they can only correct for either pinion angle or castor angle and then you'll have to compromise one of them for the other. Do it right, get them both in.


OK I made the assumption arms would be made a the same time. If you have arms already that you are using you will have to build within those perameters.

I personally will be cutting and turning my knuckles. This way pinion angle and caster are not dependent on one another. However I drive it like it is now. Cutting the knuckles will come this winter. Mostly on the trialer to wheeling.

OK I made the assumption arms would be made a the same time. If you have arms already that you are using you will have to build within those perameters.

I personally will be cutting and turning my knuckles. This way pinion angle and caster are not dependent on one another. However I drive it like it is now. Cutting the knuckles will come this winter. Mostly on the trialer to wheeling.


Nice, I'm doing the same, cutting and turning the knuckles, but I'll have to rotate my housing some to accomidate the TNT Y link arms. I think they only have about 2" of adjustment, so I'll put them at 1" and set the pinion.

I think they only have about 2" of adjustment, so I'll put them at 1" and set the pinion.

When adjusted out ~2.5" you'll still have 1" of thread engaugement on 'em.

I dig the build. Can't wait to see how it turns out. Take lots of pics and keep us updated!

...and good luck on the recovery. :beer::beer:

When adjusted out ~2.5" you'll still have 1" of thread engaugement on 'em.



Sweet, thanks for the clarification. Lol, I'm just waiting on them to get here....whenever you get them in I guess...:shaking:



I do have to say I really did like the 60 truss that you put on that axle. Nice build and nice to see it in person.....maybe next time there wont be an airshow next door and I can show Liz.

well now that my sammy project is starting to whine down and the ole lady sat me down and said that i shouldn't sell this project...the bitch is getting chopped tubed....i'm no artist, my scanner took a shit, and i can't photochop for shit...so here's what i did...it's funny but it work and you'll get the idea...

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1514.jpg

i plan on putting the rear hatch on to enclose in the cab, but if that starts to stuck oh well...this is a summer rig with no doors, and it will get scrapped quick...i will also be custom fabbing the rear 4 link also i think...never made one but i think that i would do a pretty decent job at it...

chime, flame, fawk say my drawing sucks and make fun of me i don't really care....i know it suck and looks like the shit mobile, and not the shit missile...but i would definately appreciate lots of help...thanks guys...laters, pipe..

That is probably the second "worst" drawing I have ever seen. :D

(first is attached)

I dig it, and don't waste your time enclosing the cab. Make a soft top if you're that worried about it.

DING DING HERE COMES THE SHIT MOBILE.....man i don't feel so bad now....holy shit does that drawing suck...you're definately right mine is second worse...

:laughing::laughing:
"I like lots of tube"
Vetteboy, is that crayon or colored pencil? Please tell me crayon...:p

It's really hard to do anything but laugh at either of those pictures. :laughing:

I didn't make the one I posted, I stole it from someone else. :D

It's not a serious drawing, of course.

edit: Pipe, you'll probably want some more vertical separation on the rear links where they meet the axle.

Who gives a fuck about the quality of the drawing. Lets just be glad that "sell it" idea is out of your head and you are going to finish this beast:bounce2::flipoff2::bounce:

I didn't make the one I posted, I stole it from someone else. :D

It's not a serious drawing, of course.

edit: Pipe, you'll probably want some more vertical separation on the rear links where they meet the axle.

That's not a serious drawing? :bawling: I haven't been this devastated since I found out the Easter Bunny didn't actually lay the eggs he brings around. :(


Pipe, aesthetically, it looks like that'll be pretty sweet. That's about all I'm good for advising on. :D

Damn all those crayons remind me of drawing trucks in kindergarden now I feel old:homer:...
Its great to see your project going more and more hardcore.......:D

yeah now all i have to do is figure out how to use this damn 4 link calculator....hahaha....:shaking:

well now that my sammy project is starting to whine down and the ole lady sat me down and said that i shouldn't sell this project...the bitch is getting chopped tubed....i'm no artist, my scanner took a shit, and i can't photochop for shit...so here's what i did...it's funny but it work and you'll get the idea...

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1514.jpg

i plan on putting the rear hatch on to enclose in the cab, but if that starts to stuck oh well...this is a summer rig with no doors, and it will get scrapped quick...i will also be custom fabbing the rear 4 link also i think...never made one but i think that i would do a pretty decent job at it...

chime, flame, fawk say my drawing sucks and make fun of me i don't really care....i know it suck and looks like the shit mobile, and not the shit missile...but i would definately appreciate lots of help...thanks guys...laters, pipe..

:laughing::laughing::laughing: Hey bro, last weekend Jess and I were sitting at Kelly's Tavern proceeding to get fawked up and we drew up a rough drawing of my new buggy, soooooo, I know how the "drawing" thing goes....

That front control arm looks like a fucking pelican with ball in his mouth:flipoff2:

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/akxj/DSCF1514.jpg

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Ya know, the more I look at that truss, the more I'm convinced that you've got the coil buckets swaped. I'm pretty sure the shock mount is supposed to go on the outside isn't? Just doesn't make sense, cause the buckets are forward of the tube like its supposed to be....i donno.

you cut yours off didn't you...damn the more i look at i'm think the same thing....well we're putting together....i will test fit it this week....we'll see...

you cut yours off didn't you...damn the more i look at i'm think the same thing....well we're putting together....i will test fit it this week....we'll see...



Mine never came with them....:D Mine came with coilover mounts from ballistic fab. :flipoff2:

Ya know, the more I look at that truss, the more I'm convinced that you've got the coil buckets swaped. I'm pretty sure the shock mount is supposed to go on the outside isn't? Just doesn't make sense, cause the buckets are forward of the tube like its supposed to be....i donno.


No the buckets are facing the right way .I think it comes down to who ever welded it up that day was high on fumes or something.The shock mounts should have been welded to the other side,the outside edge of the bucket not the inside edge.

that's what I thought. Eric, you might not have issues with it set up like it is, it just seemed off to me.

No the buckets are facing the right way .I think it comes down to who ever welded it up that day was high on fumes or something.The shock mounts should have been welded to the other side,the outside edge of the bucket not the inside edge.

Or they welded the right one on the left and the left one on the right. Either way easy fix.

The shocks will most likely hit the frame with the mounts in that location. I had to move my lower shock mounts outboard from the stock location to keep them from hitting at full articulation.

I've seen you driving around Va beach a lot. I always liked your rig and I think I've seen you at the VBJO meetups. But awesome rig!

Or they welded the right one on the left and the left one on the right. Either way easy fix.

Ya that is a possibility since their perches are not off set.

The shocks will most likely hit the frame with the mounts in that location. I had to move my lower shock mounts outboard from the stock location to keep them from hitting at full articulation.

I had to do the same thing .I moved mine down and away .It still wasn't enough and i would hit the shock on the frame from time to time

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It also allowed me to weld the perch to the LCA mount as well.

Pipe...Nice to see you're still wheeling. Or getting your shit together to start wheeling the xj again. I ran with you a time or two at Crozet this year (white ZJ). I like the build a lot but I have to say I'm surprised to see you cut it up as clean as it was before. Get better and get the xj done. See you on the trail! :)

Pipe...Nice to see you're still wheeling. Or getting your shit together to start wheeling the xj again. I ran with you a time or two at Crozet this year (white ZJ). I like the build a lot but I have to say I'm surprised to see you cut it up as clean as it was before. Get better and get the xj done. See you on the trail! :)

Sorry to dissapoint you man but it appears it is for sale.

yeah i've lost my drive to work on the damn thing honestly....everytime i go over there i'm plaqued by pain in my right hand all from the attack and i don't wanna take extra pain killers (afraid of getting hooked) just to get it done....really sucks cuz i was/am still attach to this cherokee...gonna be a bitch to see her go...oh well what do yah do...

Sweet fackin build man.
Makes me wish it was either warmer or I had a garage to work on mine in.

yeah i've lost my drive to work on the damn thing honestly....everytime i go over there i'm plaqued by pain in my right hand all from the attack and i don't wanna take extra pain killers (afraid of getting hooked) just to get it done....really sucks cuz i was/am still attach to this cherokee...gonna be a bitch to see her go...oh well what do yah do...

I'm sorry to hear that it must truly suck.

That sucks bro. I read a few pages back that it was for sale...then saw you decided to keep it so I assumed that was the case. A couple of mins ago I ran across your for sale add on crozet's page but thought it was old. Keep the rehab going. I have a feeling I'll see you on the trail again another day. Keep the spirits up!

i've got a few buddies that have decided to help out and get this thing knocked....last night Mike stayed up late and did the ring and pinion in the front 60....sorry this has been a real back and forth project; but therapy is a real bitch and this hand of mine just won't heal fast enough....this weekend we should be getting the 60 mocked up to weld on the lower control arm mounts....and maybe even get the knuckles and everything put together....:flipoff2:

Dont let the hand get you down!


Chris

Dont let the hand get you down!


Chris

Yeah let the gf get you down... down there that is ....:D

hahaha...

I'll be down there to help if you want as soon as mine is running.

hell yeah....more the merrier....

I'll be over there tomorrow homie, (that is if I don't drink too many Jack and Cokes tonight:shaking::flipoff2:) See ya tomorrow.

well got some work done today...here's the pics...ran into a few problems...figured out the truss's spring perches were off by a 1/4 inch (oh well)...when all is said and done it will be pimp...here's some pics:

one HP60 comin right up
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water came out of the ACOS when i pulled the bolt out...probably been sittin there for a few years...hmmm
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i took a couple of other but photobucket and my router are not fucking proper or something so they won't upload and it's really starting to piss me off....so those the only pics you get for the time being...sorry fawkers!!!:flipoff2:

Nice HP.

i've got a bit of a dilemma guys as you can see in my HP truss didn't come w/ a trac bar mount...i've got a couple of options:

build my own
ruffstuffs http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/panhard-trackbar-options-c-28.html
tnts http://tntcustoms.com/webV5/xjtracbarsystem.asp

i don't think tnts comes with an axle end mount....i think ruff stuff is probably the best option so far...anybody got any better ideas???? thanks..

Are the coil mounts on backwards? Looks like it's gonna set the axle back further than stock the way you've got 'em there...

For the track bar mount, wait until you've got the steering in place so you can figure out where the axle side needs to go.

Are the coil mounts on backwards? Looks like it's gonna set the axle back further than stock the way you've got 'em there...

For the track bar mount, wait until you've got the steering in place so you can figure out where the axle side needs to go.

x2

build looks good though, don't give up!

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build looks good though, don't give up!


no giving up here....i got people motivating me now...alotta people are throwing in on this to help out....

LockedLJ (Josh)
Swellsearcher (Randy)
Joe (one of the best fawking suspension guys IMO)
Pinhead (Mike)
Prev (Ring and Pinion Master IMO)

thanks guys....plus i got half of pirate motivating me to get it done and go destroy...it will get done eventually

Are the coil mounts on backwards? Looks like it's gonna set the axle back further than stock the way you've got 'em there...

For the track bar mount, wait until you've got the steering in place so you can figure out where the axle side needs to go.

no they're right...looks are decieving....that's how the truss came...

hey pipehitter....im out of va beach...a cop in norfolk actually. thanks for your support overseas. im currently working on a 78 f-150 for the trail. great lookin truck. id like to get up and give ya a hand sometime. ill bring the beers!

no giving up here....i got people motivating me now...alotta people are throwing in on this to help out....

LockedLJ (Josh)
Swellsearcher (Randy)
Joe (one of the best fawking suspension guys IMO)
Pinhead (Mike)
Prev (Ring and Pinion Master IMO)

thanks guys....plus i got half of pirate motivating me to get it done and go destroy...it will get done eventually



Thats the spirit. I have seen people give up after putting thousands into a rig. Keep it up, and you are going to have a nasty rig.

hey pipehitter....im out of va beach...a cop in norfolk actually. thanks for your support overseas. im currently working on a 78 f-150 for the trail. great lookin truck. id like to get up and give ya a hand sometime. ill bring the beers!

pm your number....definately could always use a hand when yah free...plus you're a cop...i could always use a cop as a friend....hahaha...

on a side not....i got a torch today....hahaha....that should be fun...fuck parker plasma cutters...they're about as good footballs in a shop...

Just a sec man, I'll get a pic of the TNT axle side mount. Mines...well, its a bit modified but you'll get the picture.

Ok, the black one is mine, the others are from a guy on Naxja named Cruzin Illusion....I totally jacked his photos off of his site, so even though I'm hosting them, they're not mine. Anyways...this should work well with the 60 truss, but take some measurments for me to be sure and I'll back you up on them.

Mine first,

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The regular TNT one...and on Cruzin's rig for clearance shots...

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that tnt one would probably work....does that come with the kit....that didn't come with my truss...

No, it doesn't come with the kit, it's like $75 bucks or some crap like that. Way over priced for the material and welds, but its easy.

ohhhh.....gotcha...well, maybe i will just order that despite the fact that its over priced and crap....i will take a measurement today while i'm over there....i'm workin on the frame reinforcement plates for the front right now...

I have the TNT one. It is offset to the front about an 1" over stock. Actually makes it easier to get to the bolts to tighten them. Yes it's over priced, but my labor in making the thing would be more time than is worth it.

got a little work done the hand started throbbin....worked on the pass. side front fender frame stiffener 1/8 plate, hole saw, cut to fit and dimple died bitches!!! the crash course in torch handling was fun too...hahaha...still got grind it clean up the edges a bit with a grinder and weld it in place...

Those should help on keeping the front end stiff. You might even be able to tie that into your front bumper?

Those should help on keeping the front end stiff. You might even be able to tie that into your front bumper?

That would help with the unibody issues majorly....

why did you dimple die it?

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=342571&stc=1&d=1198091218

Thats gonna be sweet! You gotta teach me how to run the front axle backwards like that! Guessing its just upside down?

No, it doesn't come with the kit, it's like $75 bucks or some crap like that. Way over priced for the material and welds, but its easy.

Doesn't look over priced to me. Not when you consider how much time it would take to make that thing from scratch. Piddling around in the garage you'd have most of a day duplicating that, including the time to figure out the design.

However, the mounting width of johnny joints is 2 5/8", and you can get misalignment spacers for 3/4" rod ends that are 2 5/8" wide. 3x3x3/16 square tubing is 2 5/8" ID, and it's pretty easy to make mounts out of that stuff. Nearly every mount on my rigs, that I've made, is made from that 3" square tubing.

Doesn't look over priced to me. Not when you consider how much time it would take to make that thing from scratch. Piddling around in the garage you'd have most of a day duplicating that, including the time to figure out the design.

However, the mounting width of johnny joints is 2 5/8", and you can get misalignment spacers for 3/4" rod ends that are 2 5/8" wide. 3x3x3/16 square tubing is 2 5/8" ID, and it's pretty easy to make mounts out of that stuff. Nearly every mount on my rigs, that I've made, is made from that 3" square tubing.

Yeah, that's definitely a nice piece, can't argue that.

I still say you should wait until the steering is in before you address the axle track bar mount. Unless you're doing full hydro (might have missed this).

And like Goatman, I've got no less than 8 link mounts on my frame/axles that are made from 3x3x3/16" square. Makes for some easy layout, especially for triangulated links.

why did you dimple die it?

adds more strength with less weight of steel (if that makes sense)

vetteboy is right....the trac bar will wait until the axle is under the rig and steering is mocked up so i can get a rough idea of what i need....

got the pass side stiffener all welded up (that dimple dieing really works)...got the driver side cut from 1/8inch plate; i'm not going to do anything til i get the trac bar mount and stuff from TNT (that requires $$$; which i ain't got)....my buddies and i then focused our attention to the tcase doubler setup and tried getting that POS D300 clocked correctly....still gonna need a few test fits tomorrow and it should be good...probably gonna have to run cables...

well we got the double tcase setup clocked where i wanted it and it looks like i'm gonna run into to some driveline issues with the clayton crossmember....basically at full flex, the driveshaft is gonna hit the crossmember....i'm gonna call up Jesse at high angle and see what he can do about making a two piece driveshaft...not real hip on the idea of it but it looks like it's my only option besides a 3 speed STAK box!!! more to come...have a MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!

Are you running a flipped D300 with a box 4 rocks kit? Curious because i also have the clayton crossmember and I'm going to be running the dual case setup.

well we got the double tcase setup clocked where i wanted it and it looks like i'm gonna run into to some driveline issues with the clayton crossmember....basically at full flex, the driveshaft is gonna hit the crossmember....i'm gonna call up Jesse at high angle and see what he can do about making a two piece driveshaft...not real hip on the idea of it but it looks like it's my only option besides a 3 speed STAK box!!! more to come...have a MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!


I'm running the same setup as you (with a NV3550) and I just tucked my whole drivetrain up higher. This took care of the driveline clearance issue and gave me a flat belly to boot.

It requires quite a bit of floor cutting though...

i've got an AW4, not real sure what the difference length wise between the two is...Timmay, i'm thinking that i may just have to cut some of the floor out...you got any pics of your setup your running as far as how much of the floor you had to cut out...

wheeler21 yes i have the box4rocks kit and flipped D300 w/o a flip kit...i'm thinkin there's gonna be some floor removal sessions in the near future...

i've got an AW4, not real sure what the difference length wise between the two is...Timmay, i'm thinking that i may just have to cut some of the floor out...you got any pics of your setup your running as far as how much of the floor you had to cut out...

wheeler21 yes i have the box4rocks kit and flipped D300 w/o a flip kit...i'm thinkin there's gonna be some floor removal sessions in the near future...

MMMMMM, more demolition, you gonna be working on it tomorrow???? Jess says I need to be gone out of the house tomorrow so she can clean it for Tues.:shaking: My shitbox is down for a couple days, I broke it last night at the Christmas party:flipoff2:, Lots of beer=long story... Anyways let me know 'bout tomorrow.

i wish we could work on it....i have therapy today and then i gotta head over to my folks house for dinner and stuff...

worked on the ol' POS today...got the rear stiffeners built mocked up and ready for welding, and got the t-case doubler setup all mocked up...gonna start working on the t-case crossmember...

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lockedupLJ cuttin holes FOREVER!!!
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dee-da-dee Josh!!!!
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all for now!!!! laters....:flipoff2:

looking good man

Is the gas turned on in that picture of Dustin welding?????????:flipoff2:

Nope!!!!

What happened to the plasma cutter?

i guess you didn't see where said Parker Metal plasma cutters suck!!! i had a problem with it not turning on when i flipped the switch...don't know why...i still gotta call the guys @ parker metal...figure when spend as much money as i did and got the goat rope that i did; i should get a plasma cutter that works...eventually when i move to the country i'm gonna buy a small 4'x4' (maybe bigger) plasma cam for my buggy build thats when i will get a nice plasma cutter til then i'm using my trusty torch!!!

Hey man,

Now that the holidays are over my schedule got a lot more clear. Lemme know when you guys are workin in this and I should be able to make it out to lend a hand. (you still have my number?)


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