connecting dryer to welder, need plugs.

[charlescho]

Hey guys, I have a millermatic 175 that is rated peak at 19amps, so I am assuming a 30amp for my dryer will work.

now the plugs on my dryer is a little different, so I need some help to make an adapter and extension for 100ft.

this is the plug for the dryer
http://pics.montypics.com/21342rasrqwe/2007-04-16/1176778148_s1030279.jpg

this is the plug for the welder
http://pics.montypics.com/21342rasrqwe/2007-04-16/1176778205_s1030277.jpg


I was going to buy Power Supply Cable SOOW 10/3 for a 100' extension and on one end make a female welder plug and on the other end make a male dryer plug.

I read that the 3 prong on my dryer does not have an earth ground, and is only neutral, does anybody know how to get around this? or fix it :)?

Thanks, Charles

[randii]

You have really bad static cling? :p

[Aces'n'8s]

Edit*I should've said no nuetral...not ground*....but it doesn't matter in this application. All you have to do is wire the male DRYER end onto the proper end of your extension cord.

[AZFJ]

I suggest you build your extention with the same plugs as your welder and a standard 220 50 amp outlet..Just in case you wire up 220 in your garage someday or use your welder in another location....Or loan out your extension....Then build one of these; with a cord, like the one on your dryer...then wired to a box that matches the extension and welder cords...Mine works perfect, even with my Miller 250..Cost about $20 in parts

[Big4x4Rides]

the 3 prong is 2 hots and a ground. not 2 hots and a neutral. the third prong is a GROUND

[KRMNALMIND]

Your best bet is to make a couple of short pig tails so that you can adapt to what is need. I have noticed different area use different 220 plugs from 3 to 4 prong. I used my welder on the jobsite alot so i made my main plug 3 prong twist lock. What ever you use the most should be on your welder. then make an extension cord the same as that. Then a couple of the short pig tails to adapt to whatever you think you may come across. Just make sure you are buying the proper amperage wether it be 20 or 30 whichever you are running many will look close. hope some of that helps


Craig

[devinsixtyseven]

Yup, same thing here...do a quick search and you'll find a couple threads on the topic, including where to order plugs and receptacles if you can't find them local.

I just used a 10/3 dryer pigtail and a 6-50 receptacle from Ace, hung the box on the wall next to the dryer. No need to mess with the welder plug, just do it same way AZFJ and KRMNALMIND are doing it. If you ever need a different plug, just swap the pigtail. Like he said make sure you're using the right guage.

Out the door at Ace for a hair under 25 bucks.

If you need an extension cord, make/buy one that's consistent with your 6-50P on the welder, and use the pigtail to adapt...that way you're not rewiring your extension cord every time you need to change plugs.

[Todd W]

Home Depot has that stuff.

[charlescho]

Alright guys here is what I came down to.

The diagram is pretty strait foward, but the two red waves is where the 60ft of extension of 10-3 will be :)

The 10-3 wire has 3 wires inside, white, black, and green. I was told that there will be four wires, but my local shop had the ones with only three, is this okay to use on my application?

I kind of threw out what I am going to be doing, I know green and black are just color coded, but they need to be going the right way from prong to prong.

so is this wired up correctly? or should I cross over the green and black?

without cover
http://pics.montypics.com/2134jklafdjskl/2007-04-20/1177143121_s1030286.jpg

with cover
http://pics.montypics.com/2134jklafdjskl/2007-04-20/1177143128_s1030287.jpg

Thank you guys :)

[InsaneJ]

I ran an extension cord from my dryer for a year or so and was never satified with the performance of my Hobart 175, then I put in 50amp 220 service in my garage and that 175 is a new machine. Not sure if you have the breaker space or not but I am a believer in just installing the extra circuit for the welder, cost for me as less than $30. If you can wire up an extension cord you can install an extra circuit. My .02.

[fj40guy]

USE GREEN for The GROUND LEG. Note the green screws.

BLACK AND WHITE are your hot leads.

10-3 is small for 60' lead (50Amp circuit). I would use atleast 8-3 gauge. Ya, it is $$$, but you want as much voltage coming into the welder as possible.

How much current does the welder draw at full power? (if max of 30 Amp,
the 10-3 is fine).





Alright guys here is what I came down to.

The diagram is pretty strait foward, but the two red waves is where the 60ft of extension of 10-3 will be :)

The 10-3 wire has 3 wires inside, white, black, and green. I was told that there will be four wires, but my local shop had the ones with only three, is this okay to use on my application?

I kind of threw out what I am going to be doing, I know green and black are just color coded, but they need to be going the right way from prong to prong.

so is this wired up correctly? or should I cross over the green and black?

without cover
http://pics.montypics.com/2134jklafdjskl/2007-04-20/1177143121_s1030286.jpg

with cover
http://pics.montypics.com/2134jklafdjskl/2007-04-20/1177143128_s1030287.jpg

Thank you guys :)

[KRMNALMIND]

on a 220 system both of the white and black will be hot. thats how you are getting your 220 from a 110 breaker box. just make sure that you do not mix up the green ground and everything will be fine. someone correct me if i am wrong. i was a plumber by trade. but i have wired all my stuff alone.

Craig

[TheRamChargerMan]

you are correct......2 hots & 1 ground

and the hots don't matter which they are connected to as long as the ground goes to the 3rd plug

[KRMNALMIND]

yeah that's what i was getting at. In his diagram he shows only the one hot and two grounds. I just wanted to make sure he didn't start tripping breakers


Craig

[Big4x4Rides]

there is no negative/ positive its hot/neutral/ground however in this application it is hot/hot/ground

[SHERPA]

do not skimp on the wires..........

10/3 is a bit undersized for a long run............

If I were doing what you are doing, I'd make a dual outlet box (one using the
current plug for the dryer) and the other a 50 amp outlet for the welder...

--Sherpa