Anyone heard of this outfit? wonder if they make any that would fit in the Defender axles?

http://www.rockcrawler.com/techreports/newfields/index.htm


Jamie

My guess is that you would run into clearnace problems. They make it stronger by increasing the size. GBR makes it 'stronger' by outsourcing a higher quality materials. One thing that may happen is that they have something in a similar size and then a rover star could be put in? If they did it would be much more economical.

Way

I believe the toyota cv's are slightly smaller than ours (about 0.05" or so in overall diameter). They are 30 spline and tend to fail in the bell rather than in the star (more like our one-ton's). The bell of a longfield may fit. But I don't think it would be worth while unless you go to a 30 spline axle (which means different side gears or carrier). The necking down of the half-shaft at the star is just too extreme to make this a viable option for hard core use.

Rich

Jamie, have you thought of calling Tim Cooper and ordering some U-joint axles? Throw some CTMs in some moser outers with hubs and some custom inners and you would be set. This way you could keep the stock rover housing/thrid member/brakes/etc. and have stronger axles that are less expensive than some other options.

Way

Do you know how much Coopers set up sells for?

Originally posted by lew
Do you know how much Coopers set up sells for?

About the same as a Dana 60 cut down to your spec...

$1700ish last time I checked.

-D

Ah ha I can post again?

Change your f'in profile and the world goes to crap. How about just cryoing the cvs? Seems like you would get the majority of what GBR offers as far as extra strength for $1/pound.

Anyone cryo? 300 below seems popular?

Ron

I think his cryo consists of storing his CVs in the freezer next to the fudgcicles. :rolleyes: That costs way less than a $1 if you don't count the desert items :D

In all honestly, joking aside, I ordered the parts treated from him. No visual difference at all. Is that normal of a cryo process? I expected some krypotonite glowing green piece when I opened the UPS box...but nothing!

Way

Here's what I would do if I were to do it again (and I do have the custom UJ front axles...)

Run STOCK front CV's, beat the living piss out of them, and when they broke, I'd replace it with another STOCK CV that I got out of a junkyard somewhere with the 'upgraded' Chrysler star/cage/bearings.

You could buy a LOT of those parts for the price I paid for my custom axles.

Just my opinion though...

Later,

Michael

PS Second best option...run 1-ton CV's out of early 110's and be sure to buy them direct from the UK. They're not that expensive if you really want to run 'gen-u-whine' parts.

I e.mailed this place, and they mailed back, saying that they're 'developing' some CV's for the Defenders.

about $900 a pair.

I like Michaels answer though. just buy more stock CV's.... nice and cheap (ish) over here!

Jamie

serious one,
that's a great point.
j

last I talked to Coop a couple of months ago, he was really pushing CV's, and away from the U-joint setup. He felt that the CV's are still mechanically superior to the u-joints, and much smoother off-road and on.

and yes Michael - I think you're spot on. as long as you stay away from the ABS post-1990 CV's there are a LOT of options sticking with Rover parts.

I believe if you were to order a set of these new and then have them cryo'd that it would be a strong enough setup for 95% of us.

isaac / rover purist :flipoff2: :flipoff2: