After the Trail Dogs pulled out of their camp at Ellis Creek on Sunday, I walked over to see if they left any firewood. No firewood but clean campsite. About two hours later two guts with their girls pulled into the site in stock looking Toyota PU’s. They were there a couple of hours then left. I went over to help a person in a full size Chevy that had broken his steering and on the way back across the creek I noticed the campfire was burning. I walked over to investigate and in the camp fire was a bunch off beer bottles, Sierra Nevada a bean can and some other yuppie drink bottles and the fire was going pretty good. Walked back to my camp and got the shovel and canvas bucket. Drowned the fire and cleaned up the trash and ten threw dirt on the fire and walked back to camp. I watched to see if they would come back by and I was just going to dump the trash in their bed and walk away. They never did come back by. This kind of crap is going to get the trail closed and I for one will be pissed. I have been hiking and running this trail since 1959. How hard is it to clean up your crap? Why leave it for some one else to do it? I do not have room for a bucket and shovel, Bullshit, leave a case of beer at home. When you get a fire permit, they ask you to read the back it says to have a shovel, bucket and clean the area. I got my bucket from Northern Equipment a couple of years ago for less then
Ten dollars.

When you break camp, even thought you want to leave walk around your camp and make sure it is clean. In the old Boy Scout tradition, “leave it cleaner then when you got there”

Bucket ready to use

For traveling

HMMM I ran into a similar situation at Ellis three years ago during the cleanup run.

Only the fire was burning under ground.
I didn't have one of them cool buckets yet. I have one now.

I used a couple of garbage bags to bring water from the creek to put the fire out.

Pissed me off pretty good because that one could have hit a tree root and burned the whole area down.

Also last year I ran into the same thing at Boards crossing on the Stanislaus river.

I also learned in Boy scouts to leave it cleaner then befoer yo uarrived. I always put the fires dead out and I gather up the folks I'm camping with to do a quick walk through to pick up any trash in the area.

i was shoveling dirt onto some oil we ran across at the first winch hill sunday and some dipshit said "why ya doin that? it's not your driveway." nice that people have this attitude. i wish the assholes would clean up their mess, but in reality, it doesn't matter who cleans it up as long as it gets cleaned up. the enviro-nazi's wont care.:( i guess we just need to start taking down license plate #'s and getting hardcore on'em.:vader2:

Originally posted by FULLSIZE
i guess we just need to start taking down license plate #'s and getting hardcore on'em.:vader2:

This is a good idea. Having a digital camera on the trail will help with this. Thanks for helping out with the trails. I have been seriously considering selling my rig because of the idiots on the trails. I see now that the idiots are a clear minority.

SeanP

Originally posted by SeanP


This is a good idea. Having a digital camera on the trail will help with this. Thanks for helping out with the trails. I have been seriously considering selling my rig because of the idiots on the trails. I see now that the idiots are a clear minority.

SeanP

Digital photos dont hold up, they are WAY too easy to mess with, and do something like change a license plate and such. One more reason why I always leave a pocket camera in my cab. :smokin:

Digital cameras can help you GET the # tho if your eyes are as crappy as mine and you cant read from far away. If you saw em, you know what the rig looks like and if you took the pic you know thats the right #.

I think we need to have a thread with just lisence #s, descriptions and pics of all the morons we see leaving trash or messin up trails so everyone can know to watch for em and kick some sense into em.

Dallas

I just want to say thanks for cleaning it up and agree that it is nice to see others that don't just bitch about it, they do something. I know that I always come home with more than I take and even if it is a few cans here and there it is well worth it.

Keep up the good work and I will get me one of those buckets since I am placing an order with then soon anyway.

David - thanks for cleaning it up, and thats a great idea for a bucket.

- Dan

You can have pics video and all and the cops will not do 1 thing! they have to see it for themselvs.....it's a waste of time cause they will not do a thing in ca about it. thx for putting out the fire and cleaning camp, the only thing you can do is kik there ass. that works, may be harsh but efective. no I'm not joking.