Ok Gang I am looking for input on the Eaton E locker, I waisted the rear locker in my 04 Rubicon and want to build a Dana 60 but need smothing that will last the summer. I do relize that I will need standard gears in wich I have.
R/T

Start looking somwhere else, all the people I know that have run E-lockers have hated them and had terrible reliability issues. if your looking for a selectable locker then go with an ARB or OX. Otherwise, you can't go wrong with a Detroit.

i have them front and rear on my yj in dana 44s.. i love them no complaints..:D

Have one in a front 60 and like it. Talked to some of the guys from Eaton before I bought it. The concept was originally develoed for Hummers. The only they warned to look out for is to not engage while you are slipping - this can 'waller' out the pin holes.

There were some issues with the early release versions. I think they've got them fixed for the production stuff, but haven't seen a new design to check it out.

I had a relief cut for a bigger retaining ring and haven't had any issues since then.


There's a thread on here somewhere about someone else having the same issues.

I think a lot of people still confuse the old Detroit Electrac with the new Eaton E-Locker. They are entirely differet units.
While the Electrac was the perfect concept of Torque Biasing Diff and Locker combination, only one guy I know could get it work consistently and everyone else couldn't give them away fast enough.
The E-Locker is a remarkable piece and a few of the guys I wheel with have them and love them. So much so that I ordered one for my front 44 and rear 60.

I think a lot of people still confuse the old Detroit Electrac with the new Eaton E-Locker. They are entirely differet units.
While the Electrac was the perfect concept of Torque Biasing Diff and Locker combination, only one guy I know could get it work consistently and everyone else couldn't give them away fast enough.
The E-Locker is a remarkable piece and a few of the guys I wheel with have them and love them. So much so that I ordered one for my front 44 and rear 60.


I agree on the confusion. Just for the record, mine is an Eaton E-Locker not an Electrac or whatever. My locker is OPEN when unlocked, and like a spool when locked. There's not a limited slip in my locker and the cover of the Detroit Electrac

Has anyone got a pic I am thinking of replacing my broken rear locker in my 2004 rubicon with one.
The only thing I can see is that I might have to drill new hole in housing for wires and get new gears wich I have.
R/T

how good are these lockers that come stock in the rubicons? i have the chance to get one almost free for my front d44. do you have to run a totally different gear set or are these lockers all the same for d44's

i believe it is out of an 04 rubi

i saw an e locker die today......it was only a couple of months old......so if that helps

Mine broke on the road, not even locked, absolute trash

I have an E-Locker in a front 60 and have never had a problem with it. It locks right away and unlocks as soon as you turn it off. Hardly any bind at all. The only thing I don't like is with the unit locked you can hold one tire still and move the opposite tire half a revolution. The unit is locked but there is some internal slop. That is also the thing that makes it so easy to lock and unlock.Good luck.

Jason 26 if that is in working condition I would be interesetd if you dont want it. I realy want to put a D60 in the rear but need smothing to get me by.
Richard

Our team ran E-Lockers in competition for a year. They were very stong and with stood several broken front axles and even a broken 35 spline in the rear. For competition they are not a good choice. Ours always took a little while to lock and a little while longer to unlock. We worked directly with the Eaton engineers to solve the small retaining ring failure problem and also had the magnet stator break the ears off and spin ruining a $250 part in the process. The 1/2 to several tire rotations before locking are due to the ramp and pin design of the actuator. There are a few things that you can do to make it better but it means breaking down and modifing parts that will void any warranty (not that anyone has had much luck with the warranty anyway). I can post up some fixes if anyone would like to see. Or PM me I have a couple on the shelf I have saved and modified that I would sell cheap. After learning what I have about these lockers I would not hessitate to put one in a trail rig and forget about it. But I would do the retaining ring mod and a few other things before it was installed.

my$.02

Wayne

how about a hint on the ring mod?? I have one I'm about to thrash on in a Dana 60 that is two years old.

how about a hint on the ring mod?? I have one I'm about to thrash on in a Dana 60 that is two years old.


The retaining ring that holds the whole locker together is about .030" thick. If it works loose somehow (there shouldn't be a side load on it, but somehow it gets one and pushes the retaining ring out of it's seat), the stator will 'catch' and you'll lose the magnetic action of the locker that makes it work. The solution is to just have a larger retaining ring machined. I've heard of quite a few folk running a .095" ring in a .100" ring land. We could only find a .120" ring for mine so we did a .125" ring land on my locker. It's worked so far and I honestly like the locker now. It started off with a rocky start and I was second guessing myself for not buying an ARB, but I can't complain about it at all since I've had the mod done.

The retaining ring that holds the whole locker together is about .030" thick. If it works loose somehow (there shouldn't be a side load on it, but somehow it gets one and pushes the retaining ring out of it's seat), the stator will 'catch' and you'll lose the magnetic action of the locker that makes it work. The solution is to just have a larger retaining ring machined. I've heard of quite a few folk running a .095" ring in a .100" ring land. We could only find a .120" ring for mine so we did a .125" ring land on my locker. It's worked so far and I honestly like the locker now. It started off with a rocky start and I was second guessing myself for not buying an ARB, but I can't complain about it at all since I've had the mod done.

What he said but, on a d60 the whole actuator and stator will fall away and ruin lots of high $ parts. On a d44 the same ring can come off but there is no room for the parts to move and you don't even know it is broken. Then you pull the cover and there is metal in the oil so you start taking things apart till you find it. We found during testing that the retaining ring gets pushed off while trying to engage when one wheel is spinning. the shock load just is too much for that little ring. With the bigger ring I have turned a 30mph circle and locked and unlocked it several times pluss held one wheel still with a turning brake and smoked the other tire, hit the button and the thing locked and drove away. no breakage since the larger ring that wasn't my own stupidity.

wayne

how about a hint on the ring mod?? I have one I'm about to thrash on in a Dana 60 that is two years old.

I can do the mod for you pm me if you are interseted. I can polish the slide and replace the spring too if you want.

Wayne