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Gravel Maker
05-23-2007, 10:03 AM
These are for those of you that want the strength of a 14 Bolt Axle but don't want the width of a Single Rear Wheel (SRW) axle. They are the same axle with different hubs and a different offset is required for the disc brake setup. And you definately want to do this swap, the factory drum setup on a Cab & Chassis (C&C) axle weigh most of 100lbs per side!

And yes, $50 is the price! And the PBB10 discount is good for another 10% off the $50 to make them only $45 for our friends at Pirate.....

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_Gui%20C%20C%20bracket.jpg

greensahara
05-24-2007, 09:44 PM
just wanted to let you know i would be interested in a set

Gravel Maker
05-25-2007, 10:22 AM
We have been getting alot of calls for these. A few other companies are advertising them and people have bought them and they don't always work, these are made to actually work!

Can you tell I am frustrated by the guys that copy or just assume it works without testing before they sell something? Or the companies that sell a kit at 2X what you would pay at Autozone for the pieces......

cj8scrambld
05-25-2007, 06:14 PM
I can still exchange my "regular" 14FF brackets for the C&C brackets..right?

Gravel Maker
05-25-2007, 07:26 PM
I can still exchange my "regular" 14FF brackets for the C&C brackets..right?

We will always take anything back.......and yours are part of the reason we really got to work on these.

cj8scrambld
05-25-2007, 07:48 PM
We will always take anything back.......and yours are part of the reason we really got to work on these.


SWEEEET! I will be giving you a call in a few days. I am sure I will like these better.....cause they will be just as awesome....and FIT!:D

Gravel Maker
05-29-2007, 09:43 PM
Actually it is everything.......

Gravel Maker
07-27-2007, 08:54 AM
Sorry, lots to do & the day is only so long.....

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_brake%20bracket%202.jpg

These do the job right!

87JeepWrangler
08-07-2007, 07:19 AM
wish you would have made those a few years ago. bump for ya. nice stuff.

Gravel Maker
08-09-2007, 02:28 PM
wish you would have made those a few years ago. bump for ya. nice stuff.

We are constantly working on new ones and they don't always make the first pass but keep watching for new brake Options!

Gravel Maker
09-14-2007, 09:18 AM
Sometimes we need to look at all the options and as a company not just make the mainstream items like the SRW only brackets......Thats why we make 4 different 14 Bolt Disc Brake Brackets, to give you options......Not because it is easier, Manufacturers as a whole need to step a little outside the box and not just make what "most" people want.....

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_brake%20bracket%202.jpg

Gravel Maker
09-22-2007, 11:43 AM
I would say the C&C axle is getting just as popular as the SRW! And with this offset you don't want to use spacers, they would give too much leverage and these are less expensive anyway!

Gravel Maker
09-24-2007, 12:41 AM
14 sets of the SRW going out this morning from the weekend alone!

Value, Quality, Price!

Gravel Maker
09-28-2007, 11:09 AM
We have:

37 pair of the C&C brackets

102 pair of the SRW 14 Bolt brackets

29 pair of the C&C Hubs on an SRW axle Bracket

21 pair of the 14 bolt Shorty brackets

31 pair of the Ford D70U brackets

69 pair of the Tacoma rear brackets

47 pair of the FJ40 brackets

And a bunch of the weld on brackets in all 4 sizes!

All of our Disk Brake Adapter brackets are in stock!

Ben Holloway
10-31-2007, 06:39 PM
what about the dually setup?

Ben

Gravel Maker
10-31-2007, 07:18 PM
As far as I know they may be the same as the C&C but until I get one I can't say.....I have 3 C&C axles but they are narrower and the offset may be different.

Gravel Maker
01-14-2008, 08:50 PM
They are our second most popular set......

FrkyMnky1487
01-15-2008, 12:39 PM
Do these work with the new style 14 bolt or just the old style with the press in studs?

Gravel Maker
01-15-2008, 05:01 PM
Do these work with the new style 14 bolt or just the old style with the press in studs?

I haven't yet run into the new to design in a C&C, I will send someone to a yard and try and get one.....

Gravel Maker
01-21-2008, 10:33 PM
Give me a call and I will send you a pair for free to test out.......no, not everyone, just the first person that asked, the freaky monkey!

blueguy
01-22-2008, 04:13 AM
What would the offset and bolt pattern of these be? I have a D60 dually rear from a G-van that the SRW 14B brackets I got from off here will bolt to, but they require something like 2 or 3" spacers to work :eek:

Gravel Maker
01-22-2008, 10:13 AM
What would the offset and bolt pattern of these be? I have a D60 dually rear from a G-van that the SRW 14B brackets I got from off here will bolt to, but they require something like 2 or 3" spacers to work :eek:

I can tell you the offset, if you got them from us I would be happy to exchange them too!

blueguy
01-22-2008, 06:08 PM
The brackets I already have aren't yours, but I would be interested in a set of either your D70 dually or 14B C&C brackets provided they fit :) You can PM me the dimensions if you don't want to post them here.

Gravel Maker
01-22-2008, 06:54 PM
The brackets I already have aren't yours, but I would be interested in a set of either your D70 dually or 14B C&C brackets provided they fit :) You can PM me the dimensions if you don't want to post them here.


But lets let the others do the research themselves, call tonite, I am working.....916.600.1945

Splodie
01-22-2008, 06:56 PM
Sweet, i was just wondering about these today

Gravel Maker
02-10-2008, 10:15 AM
When you don't want "Full" width, 63" is a good width for many and you get the strength of a 14 bolt axle!

Gravel Maker
02-15-2008, 08:08 AM
63" Is good!

FrkyMnky1487
02-16-2008, 04:26 AM
Give me a call and I will send you a pair for free to test out.......no, not everyone, just the first person that asked, the freaky monkey!


Send those to someone that can actually test them out for you. I will not be back in the states for another 4 months, so will not be able to start my build until then. Either way, you have earned my business regardless of the outcome. Thank you though, wish I could take you up on the offer.

negativeswitches
04-01-2008, 08:59 PM
what is the smallest size wheel you can run with you brackets?

16" alloy?

any word on the dually setup yet? i would like to flip flop wheels for roadtrips

thanks,
-Erik

Gravel Maker
04-02-2008, 12:29 PM
Send those to someone that can actually test them out for you. I will not be back in the states for another 4 months, so will not be able to start my build until then. Either way, you have earned my business regardless of the outcome. Thank you though, wish I could take you up on the offer.

But since I did offer give me a call when you get home......

Gravel Maker
04-02-2008, 01:01 PM
what is the smallest size wheel you can run with you brackets?

16" alloy?

any word on the dually setup yet? i would like to flip flop wheels for roadtrips

thanks,
-Erik

The alloy really depends on the manufacturer, aluminum wheels vary alot in the thickness as it goes over the caliper, to be sure I would go 17" if it isn't too late.

negativeswitches
04-02-2008, 05:24 PM
i havent purchased anything yet just gathering parts right now for the swap

Gravel Maker
04-02-2008, 05:26 PM
i havent purchased anything yet just gathering parts right now for the swap


Most 15" steel wheels will fit the brakes, the aluminum thickness is where you run into trouble.

Gravel Maker
08-03-2009, 09:36 PM
These are our second most popular disc conversion, no reason for them to fall way back on the list!

WVHeep
08-04-2009, 09:33 AM
Can I get a price for a set of these, spring perches, u bolts, and spring plates. All for a 14 bolt. Shipped to 26554. Thanks

Gravel Maker
08-04-2009, 09:51 AM
Can I get a price for a set of these, spring perches, u bolts, and spring plates. All for a 14 bolt. Shipped to 26554. Thanks

The 14 bolt simple swap kit includes all that plus a pair of shock brackets for $120 & the C&C brackets are $50 so $170 before the PBB10 discount, $153 after + $10 to ship....thanks

Gravel Maker
08-10-2009, 09:16 AM
These are becoming an axle of choice, the right width for many!

Gravel Maker
08-29-2009, 09:24 AM
I think we are still the only company offering these....

Gravel Maker
09-25-2009, 08:20 AM
No, these are not our most popular brake bracket but they are needed by so many and we still seem to be the only company willing to make them? It seems most companies only want to make the standard single rear wheel (SRW) 14 bolt bracket, we like to help everyone....:D

Gravel Maker
10-12-2009, 08:24 AM
2nd most popular brake bracket and if you have a DRW axle you need'em!

Gravel Maker
10-30-2009, 01:05 PM
For keeping these popular Pirate!

Gravel Maker
12-16-2009, 11:27 PM
These continue to be our second most popular bracket but the 9" stuff is comming up fast!

Wilson
12-16-2009, 11:34 PM
So these are the correct brackets for dually hubs, on a srw housing? If so, I'll be getting a set. Also, do you make the bracket to run chevy "large" 3/4 ton calipers on a 1 ton front?

Gravel Maker
12-17-2009, 12:19 AM
So these are the correct brackets for dually hubs, on a srw housing? If so, I'll be getting a set. Also, do you make the bracket to run chevy "large" 3/4 ton calipers on a 1 ton front?

But we have the one you are talking about. These are to convert a 14bolt Dually (C&C) to disc....We do not yet make any front brake applications, there are just too many variations of the same axles.

Gravel Maker
01-01-2010, 01:34 PM
These sell pretty well without but some people don't seem to think they esist anywhere, I believe we are still the only company making these and they are about our 2nd best seller!

Gravel Maker
01-18-2010, 07:14 AM
For those asking, the DRW and SRW are definately different and not by just a little....Nearly
1 1/2" more offset in the dually....

Gravel Maker
03-06-2010, 12:48 PM
Back in the mix! Still the only option for C&C axles....and not at a premium like many would do, only $50 a pair!

jsawduste
03-06-2010, 05:45 PM
Dan,
running 15 inch steel beadlocks.

Are the holes for the 3/4 ton Chevy caliper located in the same place as the 1/2 ton ?

Thinking that the 1/2 ton caliper might give me a little more room.

Same question but for the weld on brackets.

Thanks

Incoming for some more parts PDQ.

Gravel Maker
03-06-2010, 10:45 PM
Dan,
running 15 inch steel beadlocks.

Are the holes for the 3/4 ton Chevy caliper located in the same place as the 1/2 ton ?

Thinking that the 1/2 ton caliper might give me a little more room.

Same question but for the weld on brackets.

Thanks

Incoming for some more parts PDQ.

We would first have to figure out what rotor was smaller diameter. The hole spacing is the same from the era so the offset is the same and the height too. With a smaller diameter rotor, say 11.75" we could do something with the same caliper, however these do fit using the '96 Ford E350 van rear rotor which has greater offset and about 60% of steel 15" wheels made with standard '75 Chevy rotors. The outer diameter of all 15" wheels are the same but many are different when it came to inner shape.

Brettf350
03-06-2010, 11:14 PM
Do you make anything for a 94 ford 10.25. if so what rotors and calipers are used for the conversion?

Brettf350
03-06-2010, 11:17 PM
These are for those of you that want the strength of a 14 Bolt Axle but don't want the width of a Single Rear Wheel (SRW) axle. They are the same axle with different hubs and a different offset is required for the disc brake setup. And you definately want to do this swap, the factory drum setup on a Cab & Chassis (C&C) axle weigh most of 100lbs per side!

And yes, $50 is the price! And the PBB10 discount is good for another 10% off the $50 to make them only $45 for our friends at Pirate.....

http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_Gui%20C%20C%20bracket.jpg

Do you make these axle pads the spring sits on too?

jsawduste
03-07-2010, 12:32 AM
We would first have to figure out what rotor was smaller diameter. The hole spacing is the same from the era so the offset is the same and the height too. With a smaller diameter rotor, say 11.75" we could do something with the same caliper, however these do fit using the '96 Ford E350 van rear rotor which has greater offset and about 60% of steel 15" wheels made with standard '75 Chevy rotors. The outer diameter of all 15" wheels are the same but many are different when it came to inner shape.

Thanks Dan,
I`ll give you a call 1st of the week. Truss, Anti wrap bar brackets, Pinion guard and a caliper bracket top the list.

Gravel Maker
03-07-2010, 10:37 AM
We are working today if you want to beat the rush. Always a ton of prep work to do on Sundays and the shipping boys come in at 3pm to start the week...

Gravel Maker
03-07-2010, 10:38 AM
Do you make these axle pads the spring sits on too?

We make 14 different ones, that one isn't mine. Ours have 3 positioning holes.

Gravel Maker
03-07-2010, 10:40 AM
Do you make anything for a 94 ford 10.25. if so what rotors and calipers are used for the conversion?

We use a '96 E350 van rear rotor and a '75 Chevy front caliper...

jsawduste
03-07-2010, 10:46 AM
We are working today if you want to beat the rush. Always a ton of prep work to do on Sundays and the shipping boys come in at 3pm to start the week...

Incoming !!