: The C&C 14 Bolt Disk Bracket!
Gravel Maker 05-23-2007, 11:03 AM These are for those of you that want the strength of a 14 Bolt Axle but don't want the width of a Single Rear Wheel (SRW) axle. They are the same axle with different hubs and a different offset is required for the disc brake setup. And you definately want to do this swap, the factory drum setup on a Cab & Chassis (C&C) axle weigh most of 100lbs per side!
And yes, $50 is the price! And the PBB10 discount is good for another 10% off the $50 to make them only $45 for our friends at Pirate.....
http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_Gui%20C%20C%20bracket.jpg
greensahara 05-24-2007, 10:44 PM just wanted to let you know i would be interested in a set
Gravel Maker 05-25-2007, 11:22 AM We have been getting alot of calls for these. A few other companies are advertising them and people have bought them and they don't always work, these are made to actually work!
Can you tell I am frustrated by the guys that copy or just assume it works without testing before they sell something? Or the companies that sell a kit at 2X what you would pay at Autozone for the pieces......
cj8scrambld 05-25-2007, 07:14 PM I can still exchange my "regular" 14FF brackets for the C&C brackets..right?
Gravel Maker 05-25-2007, 08:26 PM I can still exchange my "regular" 14FF brackets for the C&C brackets..right?
We will always take anything back.......and yours are part of the reason we really got to work on these.
cj8scrambld 05-25-2007, 08:48 PM We will always take anything back.......and yours are part of the reason we really got to work on these.
SWEEEET! I will be giving you a call in a few days. I am sure I will like these better.....cause they will be just as awesome....and FIT!:D
Gravel Maker 05-29-2007, 10:43 PM Actually it is everything.......
Gravel Maker 07-27-2007, 09:54 AM Sorry, lots to do & the day is only so long.....
http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_brake%20bracket%202.jpg
These do the job right!
87JeepWrangler 08-07-2007, 08:19 AM wish you would have made those a few years ago. bump for ya. nice stuff.
Gravel Maker 08-09-2007, 03:28 PM wish you would have made those a few years ago. bump for ya. nice stuff.
We are constantly working on new ones and they don't always make the first pass but keep watching for new brake Options!
Gravel Maker 09-14-2007, 10:18 AM Sometimes we need to look at all the options and as a company not just make the mainstream items like the SRW only brackets......Thats why we make 4 different 14 Bolt Disc Brake Brackets, to give you options......Not because it is easier, Manufacturers as a whole need to step a little outside the box and not just make what "most" people want.....
http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_brake%20bracket%202.jpg
Gravel Maker 09-22-2007, 12:43 PM I would say the C&C axle is getting just as popular as the SRW! And with this offset you don't want to use spacers, they would give too much leverage and these are less expensive anyway!
Gravel Maker 09-24-2007, 01:41 AM 14 sets of the SRW going out this morning from the weekend alone!
Value, Quality, Price!
Gravel Maker 09-28-2007, 12:09 PM We have:
37 pair of the C&C brackets
102 pair of the SRW 14 Bolt brackets
29 pair of the C&C Hubs on an SRW axle Bracket
21 pair of the 14 bolt Shorty brackets
31 pair of the Ford D70U brackets
69 pair of the Tacoma rear brackets
47 pair of the FJ40 brackets
And a bunch of the weld on brackets in all 4 sizes!
All of our Disk Brake Adapter brackets are in stock!
Ben Holloway 10-31-2007, 07:39 PM what about the dually setup?
Ben
Gravel Maker 10-31-2007, 08:18 PM As far as I know they may be the same as the C&C but until I get one I can't say.....I have 3 C&C axles but they are narrower and the offset may be different.
Gravel Maker 01-14-2008, 09:50 PM They are our second most popular set......
FrkyMnky1487 01-15-2008, 01:39 PM Do these work with the new style 14 bolt or just the old style with the press in studs?
Gravel Maker 01-15-2008, 06:01 PM Do these work with the new style 14 bolt or just the old style with the press in studs?
I haven't yet run into the new to design in a C&C, I will send someone to a yard and try and get one.....
Gravel Maker 01-21-2008, 11:33 PM Give me a call and I will send you a pair for free to test out.......no, not everyone, just the first person that asked, the freaky monkey!
blueguy 01-22-2008, 05:13 AM What would the offset and bolt pattern of these be? I have a D60 dually rear from a G-van that the SRW 14B brackets I got from off here will bolt to, but they require something like 2 or 3" spacers to work :eek:
Gravel Maker 01-22-2008, 11:13 AM What would the offset and bolt pattern of these be? I have a D60 dually rear from a G-van that the SRW 14B brackets I got from off here will bolt to, but they require something like 2 or 3" spacers to work :eek:
I can tell you the offset, if you got them from us I would be happy to exchange them too!
blueguy 01-22-2008, 07:08 PM The brackets I already have aren't yours, but I would be interested in a set of either your D70 dually or 14B C&C brackets provided they fit :) You can PM me the dimensions if you don't want to post them here.
Gravel Maker 01-22-2008, 07:54 PM The brackets I already have aren't yours, but I would be interested in a set of either your D70 dually or 14B C&C brackets provided they fit :) You can PM me the dimensions if you don't want to post them here.
But lets let the others do the research themselves, call tonite, I am working.....916.600.1945
Splodie 01-22-2008, 07:56 PM Sweet, i was just wondering about these today
Gravel Maker 02-10-2008, 11:15 AM When you don't want "Full" width, 63" is a good width for many and you get the strength of a 14 bolt axle!
Gravel Maker 02-15-2008, 09:08 AM 63" Is good!
FrkyMnky1487 02-16-2008, 05:26 AM Give me a call and I will send you a pair for free to test out.......no, not everyone, just the first person that asked, the freaky monkey!
Send those to someone that can actually test them out for you. I will not be back in the states for another 4 months, so will not be able to start my build until then. Either way, you have earned my business regardless of the outcome. Thank you though, wish I could take you up on the offer.
negativeswitches 04-01-2008, 09:59 PM what is the smallest size wheel you can run with you brackets?
16" alloy?
any word on the dually setup yet? i would like to flip flop wheels for roadtrips
thanks,
-Erik
Gravel Maker 04-02-2008, 01:29 PM Send those to someone that can actually test them out for you. I will not be back in the states for another 4 months, so will not be able to start my build until then. Either way, you have earned my business regardless of the outcome. Thank you though, wish I could take you up on the offer.
But since I did offer give me a call when you get home......
Gravel Maker 04-02-2008, 02:01 PM what is the smallest size wheel you can run with you brackets?
16" alloy?
any word on the dually setup yet? i would like to flip flop wheels for roadtrips
thanks,
-Erik
The alloy really depends on the manufacturer, aluminum wheels vary alot in the thickness as it goes over the caliper, to be sure I would go 17" if it isn't too late.
negativeswitches 04-02-2008, 06:24 PM i havent purchased anything yet just gathering parts right now for the swap
Gravel Maker 04-02-2008, 06:26 PM i havent purchased anything yet just gathering parts right now for the swap
Most 15" steel wheels will fit the brakes, the aluminum thickness is where you run into trouble.
Gravel Maker 08-03-2009, 10:36 PM These are our second most popular disc conversion, no reason for them to fall way back on the list!
WVHeep 08-04-2009, 10:33 AM Can I get a price for a set of these, spring perches, u bolts, and spring plates. All for a 14 bolt. Shipped to 26554. Thanks
Gravel Maker 08-04-2009, 10:51 AM Can I get a price for a set of these, spring perches, u bolts, and spring plates. All for a 14 bolt. Shipped to 26554. Thanks
The 14 bolt simple swap kit includes all that plus a pair of shock brackets for $120 & the C&C brackets are $50 so $170 before the PBB10 discount, $153 after + $10 to ship....thanks
Gravel Maker 08-10-2009, 10:16 AM These are becoming an axle of choice, the right width for many!
Gravel Maker 08-29-2009, 10:24 AM I think we are still the only company offering these....
Gravel Maker 09-25-2009, 09:20 AM No, these are not our most popular brake bracket but they are needed by so many and we still seem to be the only company willing to make them? It seems most companies only want to make the standard single rear wheel (SRW) 14 bolt bracket, we like to help everyone....:D
Gravel Maker 10-12-2009, 09:24 AM 2nd most popular brake bracket and if you have a DRW axle you need'em!
Gravel Maker 10-30-2009, 02:05 PM For keeping these popular Pirate!
Gravel Maker 12-17-2009, 12:27 AM These continue to be our second most popular bracket but the 9" stuff is comming up fast!
Wilson 12-17-2009, 12:34 AM So these are the correct brackets for dually hubs, on a srw housing? If so, I'll be getting a set. Also, do you make the bracket to run chevy "large" 3/4 ton calipers on a 1 ton front?
Gravel Maker 12-17-2009, 01:19 AM So these are the correct brackets for dually hubs, on a srw housing? If so, I'll be getting a set. Also, do you make the bracket to run chevy "large" 3/4 ton calipers on a 1 ton front?
But we have the one you are talking about. These are to convert a 14bolt Dually (C&C) to disc....We do not yet make any front brake applications, there are just too many variations of the same axles.
Gravel Maker 01-01-2010, 02:34 PM These sell pretty well without but some people don't seem to think they esist anywhere, I believe we are still the only company making these and they are about our 2nd best seller!
Gravel Maker 01-18-2010, 08:14 AM For those asking, the DRW and SRW are definately different and not by just a little....Nearly
1 1/2" more offset in the dually....
Gravel Maker 03-06-2010, 01:48 PM Back in the mix! Still the only option for C&C axles....and not at a premium like many would do, only $50 a pair!
jsawduste 03-06-2010, 06:45 PM Dan,
running 15 inch steel beadlocks.
Are the holes for the 3/4 ton Chevy caliper located in the same place as the 1/2 ton ?
Thinking that the 1/2 ton caliper might give me a little more room.
Same question but for the weld on brackets.
Thanks
Incoming for some more parts PDQ.
Gravel Maker 03-06-2010, 11:45 PM Dan,
running 15 inch steel beadlocks.
Are the holes for the 3/4 ton Chevy caliper located in the same place as the 1/2 ton ?
Thinking that the 1/2 ton caliper might give me a little more room.
Same question but for the weld on brackets.
Thanks
Incoming for some more parts PDQ.
We would first have to figure out what rotor was smaller diameter. The hole spacing is the same from the era so the offset is the same and the height too. With a smaller diameter rotor, say 11.75" we could do something with the same caliper, however these do fit using the '96 Ford E350 van rear rotor which has greater offset and about 60% of steel 15" wheels made with standard '75 Chevy rotors. The outer diameter of all 15" wheels are the same but many are different when it came to inner shape.
Brettf350 03-07-2010, 12:14 AM Do you make anything for a 94 ford 10.25. if so what rotors and calipers are used for the conversion?
Brettf350 03-07-2010, 12:17 AM These are for those of you that want the strength of a 14 Bolt Axle but don't want the width of a Single Rear Wheel (SRW) axle. They are the same axle with different hubs and a different offset is required for the disc brake setup. And you definately want to do this swap, the factory drum setup on a Cab & Chassis (C&C) axle weigh most of 100lbs per side!
And yes, $50 is the price! And the PBB10 discount is good for another 10% off the $50 to make them only $45 for our friends at Pirate.....
http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_Gui%20C%20C%20bracket.jpg
Do you make these axle pads the spring sits on too?
jsawduste 03-07-2010, 01:32 AM We would first have to figure out what rotor was smaller diameter. The hole spacing is the same from the era so the offset is the same and the height too. With a smaller diameter rotor, say 11.75" we could do something with the same caliper, however these do fit using the '96 Ford E350 van rear rotor which has greater offset and about 60% of steel 15" wheels made with standard '75 Chevy rotors. The outer diameter of all 15" wheels are the same but many are different when it came to inner shape.
Thanks Dan,
I`ll give you a call 1st of the week. Truss, Anti wrap bar brackets, Pinion guard and a caliper bracket top the list.
Gravel Maker 03-07-2010, 11:37 AM We are working today if you want to beat the rush. Always a ton of prep work to do on Sundays and the shipping boys come in at 3pm to start the week...
Gravel Maker 03-07-2010, 11:38 AM Do you make these axle pads the spring sits on too?
We make 14 different ones, that one isn't mine. Ours have 3 positioning holes.
Gravel Maker 03-07-2010, 11:40 AM Do you make anything for a 94 ford 10.25. if so what rotors and calipers are used for the conversion?
We use a '96 E350 van rear rotor and a '75 Chevy front caliper...
jsawduste 03-07-2010, 11:46 AM We are working today if you want to beat the rush. Always a ton of prep work to do on Sundays and the shipping boys come in at 3pm to start the week...
Incoming !!
LOU DOG 04-16-2010, 10:26 PM Hey Dan, I just got my 14b brackets in and wanted to say THANKS! these things are beef! Cant wait to throw them on. Bump for awesome product and top notch service! :smokin:
Gravel Maker 06-02-2010, 09:04 AM Thank you and thanks to everyone using these, about 600 sets in use over the years we have been making them...
Gravel Maker 07-22-2010, 09:15 AM Wow, this hid for 2 months and we still sold 20 pair! thanks :)
Gravel Maker 09-19-2010, 12:20 PM Still the only one for this option! We have been making them for 4 years...;)
Gravel Maker 09-20-2010, 01:48 PM Been getting alot of calls on these today, it seems some magazine liked them!
http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_Gui%20C%20C%20bracket.jpg
Gravel Maker 10-24-2010, 11:37 AM When the other guys stop at one we take it all the way with all 3 variations!
Sometimes its not all about what sells the most but its about what people need. We have sold overs 8,000 of the FF 14 bolt brackets but we have sold nearly 1,000 of the other 2 also and have been making them for 5 years now! If its needed we will make them :)
CJHeap 10-24-2010, 03:23 PM I have a C&C axle but I am using SRW hubs. What bracket would I need to use ? DO you have a weld on option that will work?
Gravel Maker 10-24-2010, 05:30 PM We have a weld on for that one, the offset is too great for a bolt on. We make a bolt on for the SRW, C&C, & C&C Hubs on SRW axles.
CJHeap 10-24-2010, 06:05 PM We have a weld on for that one, the offset is too great for a bolt on. We make a bolt on for the SRW, C&C, & C&C Hubs on SRW axles.
Yea, the offset would be about 10 inches. Are the weld on ones bent or just straight brackets?
Gravel Maker 10-24-2010, 07:25 PM Yea, the offset would be about 10 inches. Are the weld on ones bent or just straight brackets?
The offset should be about 4.5". Our weld on brackets are flat...
Gravel Maker 10-28-2010, 09:40 AM The 3 options you have when dealing with a 14 bolt axle, not 1, 3!
Gravel Maker 11-10-2010, 12:59 PM Made an interesting discovery today!
Our SRW (Single Rear Wheel) brackets will work on the C&C (Cab & Chassis) axle with the '96 Ford E350 Van rear rotor with no modification. It was a coincidental discovery but worth noteing when looking at all the posibilities...:)
Gravel Maker 01-02-2011, 08:00 PM Back in the mix, choices!
Gravel Maker 01-08-2011, 04:16 PM Yes, choices! There are 3 different widths you can acheive with 14 bolt axles, we make a brake bracket for all 3 :)
Gravel Maker 02-15-2011, 11:34 AM Time to get the work started if you want to be wheeling this summer!
Gravel Maker 02-21-2011, 01:28 PM The C&C axles are a great choice when to want to widen a bit but not to the moon :)
Gravel Maker 03-03-2011, 11:58 PM Variety is the answer!
Gravel Maker 03-08-2011, 01:22 PM Get that axle on disc's, no matter what axle you have!
Gravel Maker 03-31-2011, 05:31 PM Getting the right information is just as important as getting the right parts! We sell the parts and the information is free and available. We actually do this stuff too and know how ;)
Gravel Maker 05-11-2011, 03:04 PM Time to get yours?
Gravel Maker 07-28-2011, 12:16 PM This is a pretty common way to get strength and a narrower width...
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