lower 2 closed

[tellico_rocks]

Lower 2 is now closed. As for how long we don't know. The reason is do to improper trail usage. According to well known sources the Team Fj crew was recently here and they all used the bypass through the woods around the trail. Why? Thats my question..Please people, don't mess it up for all of us. If you can't handle the trails or are scared of body damage to your wife's soccer mom ride, please dont try to go around them or do anything stupid to cause these scarce trails to be closed down. I will try to post some pics and some more details later.

[dlc]

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You go up today?

[partsjunkie]

it was still open last nite at 8.30 --but these bypass users will shut it down !!

[broncomania79]

yeah , keeep those guys in line. i think every 4x4 forum should have a sticky thread with basic rules to follow at any off road park. the main one should be keep your rig on the designated trail and why you should keep it on their.
2 carry a trash bag in your rig. the land is not a trash bag. and so on.
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[BadAssXJ]

This has always been a problem at Tellico, you have alot of the web wheelers that read and read about Tellico and other places. They throw them some 31's on their Jeep and other useless mods that all the other JU crowd is recommending. And head off to the trails. They know they have no bussiness on some of the trails. Some examples, the idiots made the bypass at Slick Rock that finally got fenced so they couldnt bypass the little rock garden leading up to the rock, the 4 wheeler trail up the right hand side of slick rock got blocked so that fixed that. Then the chicken trail at guardrail a few years back, that has now turned into the idiots own little guardrail, even a video on youtube with a dude "Climbing" guardrail, yet he was on the fucking bypass around the left hand side. Now Lower 2 has always had idiots on 4 wheelers cutting thru the woods to watch people on lower 2. This will get our trails closed, it doesnt take much these days.

It has changed year by year, the trails are more and more crowded with the yuppie type, TJ's with 33's and rock rails running around the trails at Tellico, its great for people to get out and wheel with whatever they have, but if you have No Plans on trying a obstacle DONT even take that trail. Tellicos trails are too tight to have a few idiots that just wanna look at Guardrail cluttering up the damn road, and then don't use or make a fucking bypass around it. Just because you seen some other asshat go that way does'nt mean its right.

[BadAssXJ]

Oh yeah here is the video of the guy on Guardrail USING THE FUCKING BYPASS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJzzcEdiAsI

[cruzila]

Lower 2 was my favorite when I was there in 1996. I looked at guardrail and decided not to go. Too wet. I don't remember bypassess. Some of the stuff like guardrail was optional. Is that right?

[cvsahara]

This has always been a problem at Tellico, you have alot of the web wheelers that read and read about Tellico and other places. They throw them some 31's on their Jeep and other useless mods that all the other JU crowd is recommending.........Now Lower 2 has always had idiots on 4 wheelers cutting thru the woods to watch people on lower 2. This will get our trails closed, it doesnt take much these days.

It has changed year by year, the trails are more and more crowded with the yuppie type, TJ's with 33's and rock rails running around the trails at Tellico,...... Just because you seen some other asshat go that way does'nt mean its right.


Lets be fair here. The last four times I've been to Tellico, one of which was the weekend that someone moved the ledge to make the lower 2 bypass, there were a whole lot more than "TJ's on 33's" using the newly formed bypass. Everytime I go I see plenty of built 1-ton 38"+ rigs hittin the main obstacle a few times and then hitting the bypass with out even thinking of using the winch. It has gotten so bad that all the tellico newbies, built or not, think the bypass is actually part of the trail and don't know better. The only way I see is to find a way to close that small bypass. Maybe we can do something about this at the next SFWDA cleanup. Whomever winched that big ledge out of the way needs to be strung up and kicked in the nuts.

[Never Monday]

CV,
Are you talking about the rock under the LF tire? If so that was gravity and a big HP rig that moved that rock.
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d84/DCarder/TellicoApril72007083.jpg

[BadAssXJ]

Lets be fair here. The last four times I've been to Tellico, one of which was the weekend that someone moved the ledge to make the lower 2 bypass, there were a whole lot more than "TJ's on 33's" using the newly formed bypass. Everytime I go I see plenty of built 1-ton 38"+ rigs hittin the main obstacle a few times and then hitting the bypass with out even thinking of using the winch. It has gotten so bad that all the tellico newbies, built or not, think the bypass is actually part of the trail and don't know better. The only way I see is to find a way to close that small bypass. Maybe we can do something about this at the next SFWDA cleanup. Whomever winched that big ledge out of the way needs to be strung up and kicked in the nuts.

Oh yeah I definatly agree it aint just the "TJ's on 33's" doing it. Which I ran Tellico on 34's for years, alot ride with us on 33's and been all around without a cable. And since selling my last XJ, I am building a milder XJ with leafs/D44 and 9" on 35 Krawlers. Its not that that size rig is what I am refering to, its just that "type" group.

Now as far as closing the bypasses, its been done, Slick Rocks little 4 wheeler by pass has been shut off, the bypass to the left of the little rock garden leading up to the rock has been fenced off, this was open 4 years ago and actually served a decent purpose back then for when someone broke on the rock, they was able to back down into that area, but it got out of hand with 4 wheelers and that was that. Now onto the rock out of lower 2, I dont have a clue about that, unless it was moved since last year, I didnt know anything had changed. The 4 wheelers are what used to like tearing a trail thru the woods to get to the top of lower 2 to watch is what I figured the original poster meant.

[dlc]

CV,
Are you talking about the rock under the LF tire? If so that was gravity and a big HP rig that moved that rock.
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d84/DCarder/TellicoApril72007083.jpg



No I think he is talking about the big rock that used to sit were the guy in the hood is standing.

[s10er8]

I was there sat May 26 for the first time, I started on Trail 4 crossed Fains Ford, climbed the little staircase up the left after the creek, went on up 4 and watched at the top of slickrock for a while. There was a path coming off of the trail I seen a guy take to bypass the last ledge at the top... is that part of the trail? I left there and looped around 8, to 4 and back out.

I done all of this in my CJ7 on 31's without much problem, so please don't hate on the small tire guys. Actually 20 years ago 31's and 33's WERE the rockcrawling tires, I have old magazines with rigs running Dana 60's and 33's without shaving the axle. That was common.

As far as I know, I didn't take any illegal routes. I stayed right on the main trail as far as I know, but I have a suggestion for the guys that run it all the time and know exactly where not to go.... why don't you make a few signs, nail it to a 1x4 stake and drive one in the ground right at both ends of every place people have been driving. Seriously a lot of people don't know any better, if I see where everybody else has been driving, I may do the same thing.

[tellico_rocks]

Your absolutely correct, tire size doesn't matter. I've got friends with zuks running 32's and 33's that go everywhere. ( with some exceptions ) although when your ride is gay or you cant drive you dont need to go down those trail that make you ass puker up. I want to know whose got pictures of scotty's jeep? or is that you man......

[tellico_rocks]

Dj no i had to work everyday for the last two weeks. Blair and countless others told me and told me to post this. i want to try to ride down there later.... :confused:

[Chris Hyde]

Hey guys, my first post here, but I wanted to subscribe. My TJ is lifted 2" on 33's and is pretty trail capable (not like a tube rig or 6" LA rig), but what do guys like me do when we want to head up guardrail or schoolbus with a crowd and cant take the main lines? I like to wheel with the best, but sometimes I have to take an easier route on a certain part of the trail due to my limitations. Should I take the main line and plan on winching if needed?. Also, who mentioned that "lower 2" was closed due to improper trail usage? I was there Saturday and all was running as normal throughout Tellico. I'd like to hear from the source first hand because the Ranger that we talked to for a while never mentioned anything about staying off bypasses. Isn't that why the bypasses were made? Not flaming, just very curious as I love Tellico.

[Schmozilla]

Hey guys, my first post here, but I wanted to subscribe. My TJ is lifted 2" on 33's and is pretty trail capable (not like a tube rig or 6" LA rig), but what do guys like me do when we want to head up guardrail or schoolbus with a crowd and cant take the main lines? I like to wheel with the best, but sometimes I have to take an easier route on a certain part of the trail due to my limitations. Should I take the main line and plan on winching if needed?. Also, who mentioned that "lower 2" was closed due to improper trail usage? I was there Saturday and all was running as normal throughout Tellico. I'd like to hear from the source first hand because the Ranger that we talked to for a while never mentioned anything about staying off bypasses. Isn't that why the bypasses were made? Not flaming, just very curious as I love Tellico.

Are you kidding me? You either stay on the damn trail or get the fuck out... honestly, how hard is it to pull cable?

EVERY time I run School bus some ass hat in the group in front of me is taking the new illegal bypass around the ledge. I say something to them every time and I always get the same response "were here to have fun not break parts" and I always respond with... Last time I came out it was for a trail clean up day to fix the shit you "have fun" on... If you can run with the big dogs STAY ON TRAILS 4 5 and 6!

I was going to Tellico this weekend, on second thought we will be headed south to Morris Mountain.


EDIT: Actually, sorry for being an ass at first... just always stay on the main trail and winch as needed, it better for us as we keep the trail system that we all love open, it good for the environment, because we have a lesser impact and it better for thoes of us who spend time cleaning up and making repairs...

[Schmozilla]

Dj no i had to work everyday for the last two weeks. Blair and countless others told me and told me to post this. i want to try to ride down there later.... :confused:

Keep me posted on this please, I have plans to come up this weekend and we ALWAYS camp at the bottom of lower 2. We will head to MM if Lower 2 is closed

[s10er8]

Here's mine

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w92/s10er8/Tellico%20May%2026/dcp_9170.jpg

this is that fun ledge on 8...notice I didn't take the easy line, or the hard one :D

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w92/s10er8/Tellico%20May%2026/dcp_9160.jpg

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w92/s10er8/Tellico%20May%2026/dcp_9135.jpg

What other trails would I be able to do there? 4 and 8 were fun, I was thinking next time I might try 5.. what else could I make?

d30 front open, model 20 rear lsd all stock axles even 2 piece rear

[Schmozilla]

you can do 5 and 6... ive done 4 5 and 6 in my stock xj on 29 inch street tires, I old needed a slight tug in a few places on 6, and that was from a TJ on 31 inch street tires

[tellico_rocks]

i'll try to keep everyone posted on this. im planning on going out there tomorrow. my sources are very good, but i've also been told that everything is kosher. I was told this also about a week ago that is was closed.

Schmozilla---- i used to live in westminster s.c., you know fred and them boys at clemson? hell maybe i know you.....

[Schmozilla]

i'll try to keep everyone posted on this. im planning on going out there tomorrow. my sources are very good, but i've also been told that everything is kosher. I was told this also about a week ago that is was closed.

Schmozilla---- i used to live in westminster s.c., you know fred and them boys at clemson? hell maybe i know you.....

Yeah I know Fred and Pat... I have also ridden with the Greenwood boys the Palmetto Krawlers... I drive a white YJ on 1 tons and 39 Krawlers, but I havent had it out to Tellico in almost a year due to a rebuild.

[s10er8]

Yeah keep us posted because me and Chris are headed back in a month

[cvsahara]

CV,
Are you talking about the rock under the LF tire? If so that was gravity and a big HP rig that moved that rock.


Here is the ledge I was talking about. I was told that weekend that it was winched out of the way. If it was HP and gravity then I must have got some misinformation.
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/cvsahara/TellicoCJ1.jpg

I didn't mean to start anything about defending the 33"ers. I agree with Schmo. If you can't make a trail then use the freakin winch. That is why we have them, right? If you know you cant make it and don't want to use a winch or get strapped then don't get on the trail.

I'm just glad to see that there are some people who take it seriously.

[tellico_rocks]

i think i know how that happen actually im pretty confident that i know how that happen, and it was most definitly <? hp and some hard fucken driving. i think that dlc knows too...:mr-t:

[cvsahara]

Here is how it looked last time I was there back in Oct.

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b295/cvsahara/Tellico/ledge.jpg

[cvsahara]

i think i know how that happen actually im pretty confident that i know how that happen, and it was most definitly <? hp and some hard fucken driving. i think that dlc knows too...:mr-t:


Well that is much easier to forgive than someone purposely doing it just to be able to get around it. I was mistaken in a good way I guess.

[stRanger]

I'm going to be honest, i didn't read the whole thread... BUT.. i know there are some local clubs that help do maintence on these trails from time to time i.e. clean ups etc.... So, would the forest rangers allow these clubs to go and "block" the by passes... Say by maybe running thick cable across the by passes so they can't be used, cable like what is used at guard rail between the trees... or would this be a big no no?? I think if some attempt was made maybe people would catch on.. i know the people i've ridden with wouldn't allow me or anyone else to use those by passes.. that's what winches and straps are for...

[dlc]

The Big rock has been moved twice recently. The firt time it was spun around on purpose by somebody (probably to make the bypass). I was up the a few weekends ago and the rock was knocked hard by a jeep going up the ledge and slide about 3' down the hill. Almost took out the jeep. It does not bother me to see the trails change due to regualer trail usage because that is part of what makes Tellico, Tellico. I do hate to see people move rocks on the trail to make bypasses!

[dlc]

Your absolutely correct, tire size doesn't matter. I've got friends with zuks running 32's and 33's that go everywhere. ( with some exceptions ) although when your ride is gay or you cant drive you dont need to go down those trail that make you ass puker up. I want to know whose got pictures of scotty's jeep? or is that you man......


Those are the pics from when we were up there a few weeks back. I posted them in the Tellico pics tread.

[91Toyota4x4]

Hey guys, my first post here, but I wanted to subscribe. My TJ is lifted 2" on 33's and is pretty trail capable (not like a tube rig or 6" LA rig), but what do guys like me do when we want to head up guardrail or schoolbus with a crowd and cant take the main lines? I like to wheel with the best, but sometimes I have to take an easier route on a certain part of the trail due to my limitations. Should I take the main line and plan on winching if needed?. Also, who mentioned that "lower 2" was closed due to improper trail usage? I was there Saturday and all was running as normal throughout Tellico. I'd like to hear from the source first hand because the Ranger that we talked to for a while never mentioned anything about staying off bypasses. Isn't that why the bypasses were made? Not flaming, just very curious as I love Tellico.

I ran Gaurdrail, Helicopter Pad, Slickrock, Schoolbus... blah blah on 32s and a rear locker. No bypasses. Only thin I didnt do was lower 2 because I had to leave. I was followed by a XJ lifted like 2" on 31s and a front locker, no bypasses. Our group all mainly had 33s an no one bypassed. It might be a little more difficult to make than some full on rock buggy but with decent spotters and half a brain they are all doable. If you still can't make it that is what a winch is for.

[kirbyiv]

all i can say is...last weekend was a big pile o fuck...too many dumbasses on trails they shouldnt have been on. had to wait a good 4-5 hours on lower and upper 2 because of them, and only reason slickrock was fast is no one was there when we got to it at 9 am saturday. remind me not to go wheelin on holidays

[Schmozilla]

:flipoff2: I told you :flipoff2:

[cvsahara]

The Big rock has been moved twice recently. The firt time it was spun around on purpose by somebody (probably to make the bypass).

That's probably the time I was talking about. I think it was dixie run two years ago.

[Chris Hyde]

I ran Gaurdrail, Helicopter Pad, Slickrock, Schoolbus... blah blah on 32s and a rear locker. No bypasses. Only thin I didnt do was lower 2 because I had to leave. I was followed by a XJ lifted like 2" on 31s and a front locker, no bypasses. Our group all mainly had 33s an no one bypassed. It might be a little more difficult to make than some full on rock buggy but with decent spotters and half a brain they are all doable. If you still can't make it that is what a winch is for.
Good to hear. That's along the lines of what I was thinking after someone from another forum mentioned that the bypasses were kinda taboo.

[redneckengineered]

So is lower 2 closed or not. After reading the thread it sounds like it's open for business which would make the title of the thread terribly misleading. This is how shit gets spread over the internet.

I agree it's beneficial to educate people about not using the bypasses but just saying lower 2 is closed is BS unless someone can confirm.

[dlc]

Lower 2 is back open but is on thin ice.

I just talked to Justin Blair, he has a new shop now at the cabin rentals. He said they closed it for a little while this weekend and when the land cruisers went up cut a new bypass. He said the FS said it is close to being closed perminitly if people dont start staying on the trail. They want everybody to please get the word out not to take any bypasses and to please stay on the trail or they will be forced to shut the trail down.

[mobil1syn]

Lower 2 is now closed. As for how long we don't know. The reason is do to improper trail usage. According to well known sources the Team Fj crew was recently here and they all used the bypass through the woods around the trail. Why? Thats my question..Please people, don't mess it up for all of us. If you can't handle the trails or are scared of body damage to your wife's soccer mom ride, please dont try to go around them or do anything stupid to cause these scarce trails to be closed down. I will try to post some pics and some more details later.
i have met a few people on the trail team all very professional. i would hope that youd have some proof that their actions instead of just making accusations.

[dlc]

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=584473

[chris demartini]

Lower 2 is back open but is on thin ice.

I just talked to Justin Blair, he has a new shop now at the cabin rentals. He said they closed it for a little while this weekend and when the land cruisers went up cut a new bypass. He said the FS said it is close to being closed perminitly if people dont start staying on the trail. They want everybody to please get the word out not to take any bypasses and to please stay on the trail or they will be forced to shut the trail down.


Simpl "getting the word out" is not enough. Not everyone who goes there reads this forum or talks to people who know the area well before they go. If it's that serious then the bypass needs to be blocked or at least clearly marked. There is plenty of room along the left of that ledge for a fence like there already is at the bottom or a pipe like the one to the left of the ledge at the end of slickrock.

I'm no regular to Tellico (I wish I was), but that is pretty much my favorite trail in the whole place and I'd hate to see it go.

[dlc]

The bypass people were taking is clearley maked as a NO GO. I think if the FS starts impounding vehicals like they say they are it will let people know whats up. I think everyone that visits this forum or about any other cares about the sport and would not think of taking a bypass but it is the people who are new to the sport that everyone needs to informed of the damage it does to the trail system. I think a few incedents like this and there may be some poeple that will start cutting a few tires.;)

[Fl-Krawler]

wow we was there all weekend and didnt have to wait on any obstacle except guardrail on sunday(and there were only 3 rigs in front of us)we thought tellico was pretty dead considering the "normal" amount of people that go there on a holiday weekend..we walked the ledge on lower 2 with ease several times sunday afternoon(buggy on 49's).. as dry as it was i dont think any rig should had to use the bypasses to get up or arasound any obstacle

[BigGreenMonster]

... According to well known sources the Team Fj crew was recently here and they all used the bypass through the woods around the trail...

there was a cat bragging about how the crusers blazed threw tellico like they were checking the mail. in fact they said a built guy on 40's was broke and holding them up.

i would rather winch up the trail then take a bypass. i do not see why these asses want to brag about whipping a trail when they took a damn bypass...

[vanguard_anon]

The bypass people were taking is clearley maked as a NO GO.

Those markings must be new. I ran lower 2 last year at the dixie run and I'm pretty sure I took the bypass everybody is talking about. (On the left by the fallen tree, correct?) I had no idea it was illegal and it being the dixie run, I think I was the 80th person in a row to go that way. If I knew I was harming tellico I would have taken the line on the right. As it was I didn't want to break or hold up the 40-80 people behind me (again, it was the dixie run).

I only know the schoolbus bypass isn't part of the trail because our trail leader told us. The helicopter pad and guardrail bypasses totally look like legal bypasses. Heck, guardrail even has those wires which to me, denoted the legal edge of the trail.

All I'm saying is that people like me or the FJ crew aren't just assholes, you can't tell this is anything but an easier line without some kind of trail markings.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJzzcEdiAsI

I never cut new trails but I can't follow directions if there aren't any directions to be seen. I'm going this weekend and I'm glad I saw this thread. Now I know.

[vanguard_anon]

I just read this thread: http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=584473

Some of the bypasses people are talking about (schoolbus, guardrail, and helicopter pad) are ok now. It's just the lower 2 and slickrock bypasses that are the problem. This is good news. It makes it easier for my group to stay together.

[jeepsxtreme]

Poor Boys 4wd Club and the Maryland Creepers went up lower trail 2 on Sunday as we heard it was going to be closed because a group of Land Cruisers made a bypass around lower 2. We had just arrived after the forest service had put up some new signs trying to keep all the loosers off the bypass. If you can't make it TURN AROUND...don't screw it up for everyone.
We had a great time Memorial Weekend.
www.jeepsxtreme.com

[1TFROT]

well, hopefully some bypasses can be blocked off a little easier. I will say this, I did use the by-pass going down guardrail. we already went up the actual obstacle and after we got to the top of helicopter pad, we turned around and came down. I do apologize for taking the by-pass, but I had no idea it was a by-pass. it looks so used that it looks like part of the trail.

if I had known that, we would not have used it. but, the point being, that was my first time out there and I had no idea what was and was not a by-pass. after reading all the stuff on here, it sounds like that was the only one we used. we winched the big ledge on schoolbus and didn't have to pull cable on slickrock, but made it up.

[tellico_rocks]

the actual bypass is far left of the actual trail. it cuts up throuht the woods around any of the "hard stuff". its ok to go around the big rock on the left. the bypass is most really easy to see, kinda like the one at the end of slick rock that goes to the left of the big rock ledge. thats the bypass that they were taken at lower 2.

[DanKunz]

I can stomp this rumor for sure.

I was behind the FJC TT that morning for GSMTR. I drove up lower 2 behind them, watched them the whole time, and assisted in spotting them.

The NEVER went into the woods. The large rock obstacle you all refer to was not taken, they went up the ledge to the left. They never left the marked trail, not once, and certainly did not hit anything but rock.

Sorry, but you had misinformation regarding the TT if that is the story you are hearing. Eye witness here.

[clutchee]

Hey folks lets set the record straight..............TRAIL TEAM WAS NOT TRAIL BLAZING on Lower 2!!!!!!!!!

The folks involved with the FJ Team are all curtious about wheeling & respectful of the land used.

I for one was on SlickRock helping that weekend when a fellow cruiser head (not registered for GSMTR) tried heading out on a 4 wheeler trail & winching off a tree:mad3:...........I informed him & his friends this is the type of shet that closes parks......he proceeded to back up & wait:homer:

Now as for trails being closed........join Southern 4 Wheel Drive & help make a difference on the trails with work weekends & trail maintenence.
*most of the blazed trails are coming from 4 wheelers (atv's) making trails around large drops or items they are not wanting to attempt.

[BigGreenMonster]

does anyone have a pic of the bypass at lower 2? i was told the bypass was to the left of the big rock. 2 years ago it was not there but now it looks like a highway. if there is a seperate trail cut through the woods to go around ALL of that why not just place a gaurd rail there to keep the fags off.

http://www.gdi4x4.com/Trips/Tellico%20Feb%2007/Tellico%20Feb%2007%20041.jpg

http://www.gdi4x4.com/Trips/Tellico%20Feb%2007/Tellico%20Feb%2007%20047.jpg

can you see the bypass in either one of these pics?

[4-lo]

The Jeep's front d-side tire is smack in the middle of it. You couldnt used to go to the left of that big rock his rear d-side tire is on. And that rock used to go across the trail, not up and down it.

[BigGreenMonster]

that is what i thought but the way they are talking about it there is a "trail threw the woods" not just going around the ledge. i know 2 years ago that junk was not there. in fact there was a tree that crossed from the big ass rock over the bypass.

[Blue Ridge Runner]

I am going to Tellico in three weeks. I did even know there was a bypass around lower 2. That my favorite trail there. Guess I had better keep an eye on this. :shaking:

Its a shame that there are always people that mess it up for all of us that follow the rules. :mad3:

[DanKunz]

That ledge and pass to the left of the big rock is not an illegal bypass to my knowledge...perhaps not the macho way to go on lower 2 for sure, but not an illegal bypass. You will notice that the maintenance crews have added the surge stone and such to that very area and did not put up the steel fencing bars, etc as they did further over. Now, if they put those bars up since, amen to that, off limits. If they did not, it is a viable and less aggressive route.

Now, the claim I heard was that they (the TT) were off in the woods...that is utterly untrue. The ledge? Yes, they took the ledge. I did too.

I was up there today and lower 2 was open at the bottom. I didn't get a chance to make it to the top since I was there looking for land and not to wheel. I would be interested to see if someone could get some current photos to see if that small ledge and trail to the left was now officially marked as not a viable route.

[Bigcountry]

Just my $0.02. The rock ever body keeps talking about is not illegal. 10' to the left is the illegal by pass in the WOODS for everybody that hasn't read the whole thread.
Slick rock is at the top of the hill above slick rock. Where the ledge is people cannot make it over it and are going to the left in the woods around the new pole fence line that the FS built.
People its easy just stay on the trails. The trails are clearly marked and it you think it isn't the trail it probly isn't.
I do agree that FS needs to really make more signs and flag this. Also need SFWDA to do more. Everybody needs to join them and go to the clean up days and meetings to suggest opinions.
Everybody needs to search for wheeling in TN on www.tennesseeoffroad.com bulletin board and send there information and how you use Tennessee to four wheel.
Just my knowledge from What I understand.
Also agree on the daily drivers stay on the trails you can go up. Tire size has no matter in the trail system it is driver. BUt if you dont want a scratch, dent, or winch stay on 1,4,5,6 or stay OUT.

[dlc]

I was told by a FS ranger up there that the area to the left of the bis rock is OK. It is maintaind. I was up there today and someone had taken the old bypass ( has been closed of for many years) from the botoom turn through the woods all the way up the valley and out on the road.

[tellico_rocks]

OK everybody check out the new post "lower 2 closure-tellico".. its the new post on what was/is going on... thanks

[Eventhough]

Edited: Please see http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=584997.