So after my first ftoy comp, some thoughts.

-Its alot of fun
-Welded rear diff not so good when cones are involved
-Longer wheel base good for climbs and trail wheeling not so good for turning when you have welded diff and cones to avoid
-Low belly clearance for lower COG can be a bad thing in this class
-Wide SX's and low air pressure can cause the tires to just bulge at just the right time to touch a cone or two were Krawlers and Maxxis sticky's don't
-Its not too hard on the rigs most people beat their rigs harder trail wheeling.
-Its very technical, in my mind its similar to a chess game
-Teams will drive rigs through the courses in reverse (never even thought about it) just to get in a better spot for clearing gate
-Its alot of fun

Thanks to all the teams that drove up to WA so there'd be some ftoys to compete with. :beer: We learned alot about the class and how to get through the courses watching you guys, we could definetly see the experience working to get you through the courses.

That damn last course we ran each day didn't like us :shaking: but I'll be doing some mods to the rig and getting some sticky tires for next time...and am looking at options for running the whole series next year.

And I figure that little flop added some excitement to the class :laughing:

:beer:

You guys did good.

Pics! Pics! :bounce2:


Edit: My bad; they're there on the PBB home page:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/trailreports/werock_goldendale07/index.php

Congratulations Hobie on the win!

Backing thru courses is tough. In Vegas I think we spent more time backing than going forward.

I agree about the comps not being that tough on the rigs, so far anyway. Well, except for PUSU. I'm WAY tougher on my rig out on the trails.

Backing thru courses is tough. In Vegas I think we spent more time backing than going forward.


Thats where a good spotter that talks a lot can come in handy...JRT. :p

You guys did good.

yo-bro what up with our trak-bar???

So after my first ftoy comp, some thoughts.

-Its alot of fun
-Welded rear diff not so good when cones are involved
-Longer wheel base good for climbs and trail wheeling not so good for turning when you have welded diff and cones to avoid
-Low belly clearance for lower COG can be a bad thing in this class
-Wide SX's and low air pressure can cause the tires to just bulge at just the right time to touch a cone or two were Krawlers and Maxxis sticky's don't
-Its not too hard on the rigs most people beat their rigs harder trail wheeling.
-Its very technical, in my mind its similar to a chess game
-Teams will drive rigs through the courses in reverse (never even thought about it) just to get in a better spot for clearing gate
-Its alot of fun

Thanks to all the teams that drove up to WA so there'd be some ftoys to compete with. :beer: We learned alot about the class and how to get through the courses watching you guys, we could definetly see the experience working to get you through the courses.

That damn C4 course didn't like us :shaking: but I'll be doing some mods to the rig and getting some sticky tires for next time...and am looking at options for running the whole series next year.

And I figure that little flop added some excitement to the class :laughing:

:beer:Glad you had fun, I look forward to meeting you. I drive the 042 car, Usually to last place!!

yo-bro what up with our trak-bar???

I think there is probably a story here?

I think there is probably a story here?

I think you're trying to stir some shit up, leave it alone.

QUOTE=Mustard Dog;6848576]I think you're trying to stir some shit up, leave it alone.[/QUOTE]

Not a big deal before however now very Interesting. :flipoff2:

QUOTE=Mustard Dog;6848576]I think you're trying to stir some shit up, leave it alone.

Not a big deal before however now very Interesting. :flipoff2:[/QUOTE]

You're starting to sound like one of those kooks that think a missile hit the Pentagon.

Not a big deal before however now very Interesting. :flipoff2:

You're starting to sound like one of those kooks that think a missile hit the Pentagon.[/QUOTE]

WTF?

I think there is probably a story here?
So... am I to assume that my new trac-bar will be designed and built by o.t.r.and not fatty? Not a problem.

You guys did good.

Thanks :beer:

We learned alot tricks watching you guys. :)

I would like to say thanks. I enjoyed watching you folks and sunday and I got some pictures of changes I need to make to my truck. It was also great that some of the teams were easy to talk with. Heck I even got to meet the man Marlin.

So after my first ftoy comp, some thoughts.

-Its alot of fun
-Welded rear diff not so good when cones are involved
-Longer wheel base good for climbs and trail wheeling not so good for turning when you have welded diff and cones to avoid
-Low belly clearance for lower COG can be a bad thing in this class
-Wide SX's and low air pressure can cause the tires to just bulge at just the right time to touch a cone or two were Krawlers and Maxxis sticky's don't
-Its not too hard on the rigs most people beat their rigs harder trail wheeling.
-Its very technical, in my mind its similar to a chess game
-Teams will drive rigs through the courses in reverse (never even thought about it) just to get in a better spot for clearing gate
-Its alot of fun

:beer:

You would do alot better on the Cougar buttes courses with your set up.

Im "allmost" glad I sold my rig when I see those tight courses.
Those are the courses you look at and say......." 111" wb, we're screwed"
Im impressed with how well Brett is doing with it.

Yeah they had some tight turns. If I had a rear ARB we would of shaved alot back up points off. I think it was more the welded diff than wheelbase making the corners tight.

For the number of comps vs the amount of trail wheeling I do, I'm keepign the wheelbase.

pook, you guys did great. you were doing just as well as the others minus a couple of courses. i hope you can come back to another comp.:D

That trac bar worked so dang well, we're going to swap to that kind on the RockHer II. I'm shocked nobody protested it because it's clearly illegal as it gets.



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BTW, Toy's use a trac bar?

BTW, Toy's use a trac bar?



yes, we are allowed 1 anti wrap bar on the rear. 2 points on the housing and 1 on the rig. and its not to aid in any lateral support.

Yeah they had some tight turns. If I had a rear ARB we would of shaved alot back up points off. I think it was more the welded diff than wheelbase making the corners tight.

For the number of comps vs the amount of trail wheeling I do, I'm keepign the wheelbase.

Hahaha, I'm 107" WB with a spool in the rear. I run over ALL the cones!

I would like to say thanks. I enjoyed watching you folks and sunday and I got some pictures of changes I need to make to my truck. It was also great that some of the teams were easy to talk with. Heck I even got to meet the man Marlin.


Ya, Marlin had a great time just going around and talking to people. This is what he does best.

Thanks :beer:

We learned alot tricks watching you guys. :)

Pook, the only way we learn anything is to follow John an Jerry.:D

Pook, the only way we learn anything is to follow John an Jerry.:D

That will get you to third:flipoff2:

You need to follow Hobie and Mdog to get past Dtoy

That will get you to third:flipoff2:

You need to follow Hobie and Mdog to get past Dtoy

hahahahaha:flipoff2:

That will get you to third:flipoff2:

You need to follow Hobie and Mdog to get past Dtoy

:laughing::flipoff2::laughing:

A couple more tweaks and some practice we'll have all you guys working hard for the lead :flipoff2:

pics

more pics

a couple more

Some various Goldendale pics. I have a few more, email me if you want some westbrett@verizon.net. F-Toys only. Thanks.Sorry Cody I missed your sweet save on the last course, Sunday!:eek:

sweet pics. tell your hot wife thanks! :D

sweet pics. tell your hot wife thanks! :D

Yeah, she said you're pretty hot too. But she cant get into guys with BABY BLUE chassis.:flipoff2:

Yeah, she said you're pretty hot too. But she cant get into guys with BABY BLUE chassis.:flipoff2:

i just figured it was the gay thing and all:flipoff2:

Cool pics! Now I'm even more bummed that I could'nt go.

Pat,

What you missed...

easy courses
Hobie and Mustard Dog's near perfection (2 back-ups shy)!
Great people and crowd
Decent terrain and great scenery
Cody's great save on last couse

What you didn't miss...

easy courses
LONG drive (longer for you)
Very windy Sunday!
Dusty, dirty!
Cow patties in the field we camped in.

Overall it was great fun and the F-Toys are bringing the competition - good job guys! Hope to see you all and alot more in Tahoe - Donner!