There is a Series III 109 with a nice camper interior for sale locally. Has been legally converted to Isuzu 2.8 TD by Frogs Island in the UK. Comes with Ashcroft high range transfer case.

I'd like to hear from anyone on the board with first hand information on this engine in a Series truck. OK, second hand information, rumours and unfounded views are welcome, too.

Enough power? Driveability? Economy? Reliability?

If I get it, one use will be for weekend trips to Trial comps with a ~1000 kg trailer. Needs to be able to do 90-100 km/h with the Zuk in tow.

It's a MY 75 which means it's tax exempt. A Defender is about $ 150 per month in diesel tax here, so it makes a difference. And gas is approaching $ 7 per gallon, so towing with the P38 is getting old.

Not in a series, but I've driven Isuzu utes, small trucks and vans with those engines.

Do it.

Only problem is some of them put a leg out of bed.:eek:

Not in a series, but I've driven Isuzu utes, small trucks and vans with those engines.

Do it.

Only problem is some of them put a leg out of bed.:eek:

As in throwing rods? What to look for to avoid that?

As in throwing rods? What to look for to avoid that?

Dunno if the rods bend then break, or whether it's the cap coming off that starts it.
I'd be checking or changing the bigend cap bolts/studs if the engine was out.

Dunno if the rods bend then break, or whether it's the cap coming off that starts it.
I'd be checking or changing the bigend cap bolts/studs if the engine was out.

Is this in any way correlated to year of manufacture and mileage? The engine was installed new in 1997 and has covered some allegedly careful 90 000 km since.

Is this in any way correlated to year of manufacture and mileage? The engine was installed new in 1997 and has covered some allegedly careful 90 000 km since.

Don't know.
I know of three occasions when it's happened over 20 years of this engine being used.
1 non turbo light truck motor back in the late 80's.
2 turbo engines in Isuzu Bighorn 4x4's which went about 2 years ago. Trucks were probably 1990 vintage and used japanese imports.

I'm curious about these motors as well, did a bit of homwork a while back, seems like a decent piece.. I have since aquired a 4BD1T for my next project vehicle but it will need a rebuild..

I'd see if ARP makes main and rod bolts for them.

I'm curious about these motors as well, did a bit of homwork a while back, seems like a decent piece.. I have since aquired a 4BD1T for my next project vehicle but it will need a rebuild..

bread truck motor going in the black discovery CAR?

bread truck motor going in the black discovery CAR?


:flipoff2: You're funny!!! Nahh the Black Disko get's the new 5.0l and the Race buggy gets a new 2.4l VW aircooled.. It's the tow rig that will get the Bread truck motor..

I'm curious about these motors as well, did a bit of homwork a while back, seems like a decent piece.. I have since aquired a 4BD1T for my next project vehicle but it will need a rebuild..

Interesting.

Rebuilds on those are dirt easy and can be done almost entirely insitu. My only tip is to pull the spring off the rear main seal and shorten it by about 20mm. Otherwise the bloody things drip.
Buy the factory piston/ring/liner kit too. I cheaped out once and 27,000km later I had to do it again.

What turbo is on yours?
There's about three different ones, from IHI's (basically japanese T3), to wastegated T25 and non wastegated T25's.

I have seen one in a rangie. It had plenty of go both on and offroad - as good or better than a 300Tdi.

If anyone needs one ProffittsCruisers.com has a bunch they pulled out of rare 70 series Toyota mine vehicles.. They like them a lot but they are small...

Also there are some neat thread on www.4BTswaps.com and http://forum.ih8mud.com about the 4BD1T if you need more info on those. I am helping rebuild one to put into a FJ62 as we speak...

Cheers,
A

The engine was very well liked in Oz when fitted to coilers and seems to have a pretty good reputation in the UK. You may find the following thread on LR4x4 of some use:

http://forums.lr4x4.com/index.php?showtopic=13027&st=0&p=136917&#entry136917

The 2.8 turbo engine is the 4JB1T. A popular conversion in the UK, but not in Aus.

From reports, they are a bit sluggish stock, but good if fitted with a decent size intercooler and have the injection pump tweaked.

They are a short engine and fairly reliable. IMHO they would be a better conversion than the 300Tdi.

The isuzu 4BD1 and 4BD1-T is legendary in Aus rover lore.

I've now got CAD models of almost everything needed to shoehorn a 4BD1T into a RHD classic rangerover. LHD will have to do something to make the PS box fit.
With Isuzu gearbox of course.

This thread has a side on view:
http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=128585&page=8

I've now got CAD models of almost everything needed to shoehorn a 4BD1T into a RHD classic rangerover. LHD will have to do something to make the PS box fit.
With Isuzu gearbox of course.

This thread has a side on view:
http://forum.ih8mud.com/showthread.php?t=128585&page=8

I would love a CAD model of an MSA to LT230 adaptor!

I would love a CAD model of an MSA to LT230 adaptor!

The ones I have are a little crude (i.e. uses the back end of an LT77), but the info is all there to make up a real one.

PM me your email and what cad you use, I'll send you the relevant part files.

As in throwing rods? What to look for to avoid that?

I think this reputatuion got started as the Isuzu 2.2 L doesn't like to rev. Spin the turbo endgine too fast and the rods let go. There are a larger rods called the 1.5 and 2.0's for them that help eliminate that. The 1.5 is 1 1/2 times thicker that the stock rod and of course the 2.0 is 2 X thicker. Very BEEFY! I have the 1.5's in my 2.2 L TD Motor.
I'm no expert on the 4JB1T, but I know the guy who is. I'll check with him and see if the 4JB1T has the same affliction. I don't think so! I hear it's the one to get.

Curtis

I think this reputatuion got started as the Isuzu 2.2 L doesn't like to rev. Spin the turbo endgine too fast and the rods let go. There are a larger rods called the 1.5 and 2.0's for them that help eliminate that. The 1.5 is 1 1/2 times thicker that the stock rod and of course the 2.0 is 2 X thicker. Very BEEFY! I have the 1.5's in my 2.2 L TD Motor.
I'm no expert on the 4JB1T, but I know the guy who is. I'll check with him and see if the 4JB1T has the same affliction. I don't think so! I hear it's the one to get.

Curtis

The 2.8 does occasionally get a leg out of bed.
I know of three people who've had it happen, I know over a couple of dozen who've owned vehicles with these engines.