: 35's on stock axles


SaharaTJ99
06-02-2007, 08:18 PM
If I run 35's on my TJ stock axles, will they brake easily?....I've already destroyed my rear with 33's once....Is it worth it, or should I just get some Dana 44's?

Monkeylube
06-02-2007, 08:34 PM
What axles do you have?
What kind of wheeling do you do?
Are you locked?

we need more information.

From your screen name, it seems like you have a sahara... Sahara's came stock with a D44 rear.

rocknbronco
06-02-2007, 08:37 PM
Get some chrome axles and you will be fine.

smurison14
06-02-2007, 09:43 PM
Get some chrome axles and you will be fine.

Chrome? or chro moly, there is a difference :flipoff2:

Oranjeeper01
06-03-2007, 01:45 AM
do you have a d35... i have the stock d44 and i run 35s no breakage

Knuckelhead
06-03-2007, 05:39 AM
If I run 35's on my TJ stock axles, will they brake easily?

No they won't brake easily and yes they will break easily...

rocknbronco
06-03-2007, 05:50 AM
Chrome? or chro moly, there is a difference :flipoff2:

Chro moly:shaking:

rockrknockr
06-03-2007, 06:50 AM
:shaking:

AFI
06-03-2007, 08:07 AM
If you truss them up they should last through some good abuse, however the above poster was right if you have a sahara then you have a rear dana 44. Just either buy a truss or fab one yourself. I know a guy running 37's on a dana 35, but he has about 2k in upgrades, kinda polishing a turd, but he wheels it hard and it hasnt broke yet.

Full_Blown
06-03-2007, 11:28 AM
I know a guy running 35's on his saharha, he is locked with arbs and wheels his jeep hard and never broke a thing. I am building a willy's and got some 44's from two chevys and decided to truss them for some extra strength. It is worth the time in my oponion to truss them.

If you don't know how to weld than you will be fine with your stockers and 35's, but if you have the know how to than make some truss's and trull the rear and front.

And another thing, What kind of tires you talking about? If you plan on running something wider than 12.50" (Krawler-Bogger) than you should most defintely truss them.

Hope this helped.

SH!TJ
06-03-2007, 11:49 AM
i run 35's on my d30/d44 combo locked with full case detroits F/R.

yes you will break them eventually if you wheel it hard... if you add some chromo shafts, you're moving your weak point to the ring and pinion. but you should be fine nevertheless... breaking chit just keeps you busy the next day...

and not ALL saharas came with a d44 rear.

Optiskate
06-03-2007, 12:23 PM
D30/35 Locked front and rear and heavy ass 35"x13.5" Toyo M/T's and only one broken shaft. It took some really stupid driving, a little backwards air time, and landing on a rock with the throttle pegged to the floor in first gear.

They'll break, especially if you make a big mistake or drive stupidly. If you drive it nicely, then they could possibly hold up for quite a bit. A 44 or an 8.8 would definitely provide some much needed piece of mind while you're out on the trail though. I don't really think spending the money on chromo's or a super 35 is that great of an idea though.

RickyRetardo
06-03-2007, 06:02 PM
They'll break, especially if you make a big mistake or drive stupidly. If you drive it nicely, then they could possibly hold up for quite a bit. A 44 or an 8.8 would definitely provide some much needed piece of mind while you're out on the trail though. I don't really think spending the money on chromo's or a super 35 is that great of an idea though.

x2. I'm not saying that the d35 will explode on you but the amount of money you spend on a s35 kit you could have a d44. You could look into buying a rear d44 from a TJ unlimited (junk yard)and swapping that in there. From what I understand it's a direct bolt in only you have to make sure and change the front gears.

Gus310
06-03-2007, 07:36 PM
if you are destroying your rear with 33's, you can count on breaking your axles with 35's, chromoly will help, but it tends to move the weak spot to somewhwere else like the r&p, give it a rip and start saving for 44's.

offroadjunkie
06-03-2007, 10:02 PM
ive seen plenty of people run 35s on a 30/35 set up... just carry extra parts if you go on any trips. day wheeling you should be ok but when your out in the middle of no where you will wish you had spares

Brandon Rhoads
06-04-2007, 07:25 AM
I am running 36's on 30/35. Ive been very lucky.i do have the super 35 kit. I have it locked front and rear. The front is stock. I would def. recomend the chro moly axels. If not save your money for the 44's. I'd Like to upgrade to 60's f/r.

soilantgreen
06-04-2007, 07:34 AM
Dana 35 with 35" tires+heavy foot=:nuke:

cphatmike101
06-04-2007, 08:47 AM
this is my turd with 35's i'v broke 2 of them so far 2 trips in a row.
the sad part was i did'nt learn the first time it happend. it took two broken shafts before i started bringging spares with me.

http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1318/4698229/9796612/257358248.jpg



http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1318/4698229/9796612/257358017.jpg

butch6924
06-04-2007, 09:11 AM
Dana 35 with 35" tires+heavy foot=:nuke:

x-eleventybillion.

Do all of us on the trail behind you a favor, don't wheel with a D35 and 35" tires. There's nothing more aggrevating that some guy slapping too big of tires on too small of an axle and then clogging up the trail.

There's plenty of beef options depending on your wallet. One of the cheapest would be a D44 out of another TJ. For about the same kind of cash, you could go with an 8.8 but you'll need to know how to well to stay in the same price ball park. Either way, for a grand you could be a lot stronger and safely run 35's.

wranglerwilson
06-04-2007, 09:15 AM
Iff you wheel hard you will brake a 35 sooner or later. You can take spair axils but you may have to remove the carrier to drive out the stub. Go for an 8.8 and put your money in it. If a v8 and extream rocking is in your future go 60 or 14 bolt.

bjb
06-04-2007, 01:40 PM
YES THEY WILL BREAK!!! At the worst time! At the worst place! Guys get way with it for a while but THEY WILL BREAK!!!!!:shaking:

rd94yj
06-04-2007, 05:54 PM
I wheel a dana 35 welded, 33s, and a six cylinder and I think about breaking everytime I go out. I think I have twisted the axle splines but I only welded for temporary use anyway just till I get my 8.8 ready to bolt up. And the only thing I have broken was a leaf spring center pin. Just as long as you dont let the Jeep hop when looking for traction ,bump rocks or other objects to hard you should be fine.

ogreshooter
06-05-2007, 06:58 AM
My .02 is that for $1000+ you can build a stout 8.8 or 44. I am running mine because I am into the axles and locker for $200. I run 35" Baja Claws and have had 0 problems. I am easy on the stupid pedal and am running a 4-banger. But, that said, I am building 44's front and rear....

PizzaFarno
06-05-2007, 03:08 PM
my cj has been wheeled since 1984 on either 31's or 35's(upgraded 4 years ago) and hasnt broken anything. My dana 30 and AMC 20 can stand up if you just dont hit the pad. They dont have anything special, just 1 pieced and cromo axles w/ 44 outers and lockers, no welded tubes and junk. The only thing ive ever broken is a couple motor mounts on my stock 258. :eek:

TerraScout
06-05-2007, 05:32 PM
my old set up in a Terra Scout(I am the proud owner of an '05 Rubicon Unlimited now) was d44's on both ends, welded on both with Yukon 4340 shafts/Yukon Super Joints up front, with 4.10's and 35x12.50 mud tires...I had the 345 v8 and wheeled the piss out of it(the thing was somewhere around 5500 lbs or so curb weight!!!!) never did break an axle shaft....destroyed a front drive shaft and mangled some steering linkage...most of the cats I have talked to say 35's are the upper limit for d44's...my fellow Jeep buddies here locally have wheeled d30/35 with 35's with moderate success-AND A REALLY LIGHT RIGHT FOOT......swap a d44 in the rear(or 8.8) and load the frnt with chromos...go have fun!!!!

soilantgreen
06-05-2007, 06:54 PM
...my old set up in a Terra Scout...I had the 345 v8 and wheeled the piss out of it!...

So you got up to, what, about 25 mph? :flipoff2:

Kurtuleas
06-05-2007, 07:38 PM
Good lord...

If there is one more thread on this topic, I am gonna puke.

First, we gotta know what axle you got. Everyone's fawkin guessing.

If it's a Dana 35, rip it out this weekend and use it as a boat anchor. You MAY get by on 33's with a 4 banger if you take it easy.

Your best bet is to run an 8.8

If you cannot afford it, keep the 33's and use the cash to upgrade to the 8.8 do not buy 35's yet. You will not be sorry in the long run.

if it's a Dana 44, something must be wrong or you are pounding the skinny pedal to hard. As slow as possible, as fast as nessasary on the rocks...

RedTJay
06-07-2007, 12:37 AM
If I run 35's on my TJ stock axles, will they brake easily?....I've already destroyed my rear with 33's once....Is it worth it, or should I just get some Dana 44's?

Umm Im confused :shaking: