Before I get thrashed again let me explain my question :p

I have reached the limit of my current setup (Wago D44's with 36 SX's) that I've been running for over a year and ready to move up.

I will be running a full width D44 front (CTM's, etc.) and D70 rear. I really love my SX's but have not had any other driving experience with the TSL. I drive mainly rocks, mud if the trail has it on it but mostly rocks.

So my question ..

For my applications, rock, would the 12.5 or 14.5 be better suited.

Also any pics of either would be great!

Thanks!

some like em skinny and some like them fat. me? i like em fat :flipoff2:

Be a good little sheeple..... 14.50 :p

lmfao

I'm going 12.5s cause I prefer lighter weight, and I like the tall skinny look. It will also be kinder to my 44 front...

12.5s cause I prefer lighter weight, and I like the tall skinny look. It will also be kinder to my 44 front...

Ditto

On the SX's I have seen the 12.5 ones come off the bead allot but not the 14.5's and I think it is due to the strength of the sidewalls. On the 14.5 there seems to be a little more give and the are wider than the rim by enough to help keep them on. Go with the 14.5's

ahhh that 70 is going to love getting banged on rocks. i have 14.5's and im upgrading to 42's for the sole poupose of diff clearence9and well 42's are just cooler) jiMMy

Anyone have any pics of their rig with the 12.5's?

Thanks

I love my 38x12.50

Skinny seems to work a helluva lot better in thick mud.

My 12.50's weighed 72lbs when I got them according to the bathroom scale

Here's a front and rear pic of my YJ. I have 38x12.5 TSLs (not SX) on 15x10" beadlocks, full width 1-ton. These will at least give you an idea of what a 38x12.5 looks like. I like them. Personally they don't seem very narrow to me.

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid21/p17797e2bd5e6a1525704a00f48a58abe/fdb09aea.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid21/pa79b7b54bde0c8a4a0ddbc265ad54e55/fdb09ae4.jpg

bigdude,

Do those tires measure a true 38"?

Also why the TSL over SX's?

14.50 cause its all about girth.

according to interco's site the 38x12 is 37.4in and teh 38x14 is 38.3in, you make the call, i like my 14's :D

Originally posted by attachcurrie
bigdude,

Do those tires measure a true 38"?

Also why the TSL over SX's?

Pretty damn close to a true 38" tire, maybe just 1/4" shy at 23 lbs.

I chose TSLs because they have better sidewall flex (at higher pressures) and are a shit-load lighter. I had 36" SXs before and had to air them down to like 4-6 lbs for flex that I get at 10-12 lbs with the TSL. I didn't weigh them to get an exact difference but I swear that my 38 TSLs are lighter than my 36" SXs. The TSLS are a little taller than the SXs (in 38x12.5) and cheaper too ($700 for 4 tires). All that added up to my choice and I'm very happy. Di I mention they are a lot lighter:D . I also felt that the TSL sidewall was plenty strong.

Do the SX's have any other advantages? I have never seen a TSL up close just wheeled with people with SX's and Radials. Seems most people who use Interco for competition use the TSL. Are they similar to the radial in the tread patern? Can someone post a closeup shot of the TSL.

Thanks again guys!

Grooved to my liking in about 2 hrs

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid21/pe3bc5ae5f8e5551b31caab6139cf5052/fdb1111f.jpg

Spacing is much further apart than the radial (and I believe futher than SXs also)

The only thing I'm a little skeptical about is the TSL sidewall. For rockcrawling, the SX just gives more piece of mind. I really like the 39.5x15 TSL, but I don't believe the sidewall will hold up to the type of wheeling I do.

Put it this way, I've never personally witnessed an SX sidewall give up and I've personally seen several bias TSLs go bye-bye.
Dion

I went with the 12.50's for weight savings. I like them. SX's are not rock proof though. Maybe next time I'll try the regular ole TSL's.

things that are good:
thin women
fat tires.

Little history on the non-sx TSL 38X12.50. Many years ago, this was Interco's biggest tire & at the time it was stamped 37X13. And "37" is a much better description than "38". Mine measured a true 36.0" measured horizontally on 15X10's. The SX version isn't supposed to be much bigger, though I haven't personally checked a set. The 38.5X14.50 SX is quite a bit taller - an inch or more, as well as being fatter. They're also shaped for 12" rims, which is why they hold a bead so well on 10's.

For the few sizes that exist in both lines (35X15.50, 36X12.50, 38X12.50), the tread is spaced very similar on both TSL & TSL/SX. However, the standard TSL appears to have slightly sharper edges to the tread & that combined with its lighter, more flexible carcass is probably why the standard TSL works better than same-size SX in mud. The 38.5X14.50 SX has it's own unique tread, wider spaced than 38X12.50, nowhere near as aggressive as 38.5X16 or 39.5X15 TSL. It's not a particularly good mud performer from what I've seen, perhaps the tread is too rounded. Dunno, it just is at a real disadvantage compared to other 38.5's & really offers no benefits over 38's or 36's in the slop. Good reviews on rocks though, but I'll leave that to the guys who do that stuff.

TEX