: Stock XJs and deep water don't mix. . .


CheapXJ
06-03-2002, 11:18 PM
Ya gotta love em, those one or two buddies of your that just pull the dumbest shit, and then you get the call. . . I'm stuck again.

The pics tell the story pretty good, he's probably gonna have to rebuild the motor, tried to drive home with water in the oil.

http://community.webshots.com/album/39781668PAxlyc

I'd post pics, but webshots is :rainbow:

OBeasto
06-04-2002, 12:13 AM
Your friend there isn't too bright is he? Wheeling in mud and water up to the hood with no snorkle, no mud tires, then you guys used a CHAIN to pull him out! Both of you need to go through wheeling 101 and learn what happens when a metal object snaps with 15,000 lbs of force being applied to it. Tow Straps with nylon loops are the only thing that should ever be used for mud extraction.

Also the stock intake for an XJ resides right under the drivers side headlight, which is very prone to sucking in water when doing shit like this. Ask me how I know this. . . .

Good luck on sourcing out a new 4.0 when his current one throws a rod through the oil pan while driving down the road. Mud just sucks period.

high traveler
06-04-2002, 12:14 AM
that is some fine photography. is yer jeep remote control or was there some other fat f#ck behind the scenes? don't get that heep too close to my scout when yer workin on it at the garage, it might get angry and rust on you.

high traveler
06-04-2002, 12:18 AM
there is no stock intake on it, it's got a big cone filter that was chillin above water level. oh, and we broke the nylon tow straps.

OBeasto
06-04-2002, 01:28 AM
The cone filters are even better for hydrolocking engines with.

bigdude
06-04-2002, 04:51 AM
Originally posted by OBeasto
The cone filters are even better for hydrolocking engines with.

Huh:confused: If the intake is raised with the cone compared to where it sat from the factory then how is that worse? (and don't get into the whole air box explanation)

redrangie
06-04-2002, 09:47 AM
Originally posted by high traveler
there is no stock intake on it, it's got a big cone filter that was chillin above water level.


I suppose it is just sitting there with no air box or container... FAWK


You BROKE the tow straps????? Were the FAWK did you get them? Target?

johnny

Eskimo
06-04-2002, 10:57 AM
Let me guess...the "tow strap" had metal hooks on the end, too?

Looks like you guys are in Darwin's bullseye.

Thanks for the pics though.. I can show new wheelers what NOT to do. You guys did it by the book. Only thing that would have made it better would be to hook that chain to a class I hitch!

OMG, AND a come-along???:eek: :eek: :eek:

StinkBug
06-04-2002, 11:56 AM
that is a whole album full of stupidity in photographs. WTF were you thinkin, comealongs, and CHAINS. Damn i wish i still had the pics of the YJ i saw with a tow strap runnin from the front bumper, thru the windshield, thru the driver seat, and out the back window, all because the strap had hooks on the end. Chains are even worse. I cant believe how stupid some people are. If the strap breaks get another one dipshit.

Dallas

redrangie
06-04-2002, 01:21 PM
things that make you want to go

Old Scout
06-04-2002, 01:47 PM
Dam you don't even look old enough to drive!

Why are we looking a stock jeep on POR?:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :nuke:

CaptainFleXJ151
06-04-2002, 01:57 PM
Why did he have a cone filter on there in the first place? Is that supposed to free up some power on a 100k+ 4.0? Will someone delete this post please?

offroadr35
06-04-2002, 02:01 PM
you are a retard, nuff said

TNToy
06-04-2002, 02:05 PM
Allow me to recommend http://www.4by4connection.com/recstraptres.html

Any strap you can break in that situation is either old as crap, or you bought it from wal mart or autozone. Wether they have loops or hooks, their straps are less than half as thick as a keeper, pro comp, or canyon-crawler strap. I really like the 3" x30 ft. Pro Comp strap (http://store.summitracing.com/default.asp?target=%2Fsection%2Easp%3Fd%3D16%26s%3 D150) I've go now. Beefy, but it can still be stuck into the end of a reciever and secured with a hitch pin.

Chain sucks, if for no other reason than that it's heavy. The lighter something is, the better off you are when it breaks and goes sailing through the air. Personally, I would have pulled with a strap (or at least a SINGLE length of chain) to the rear and passengers direction. Somewhat firm ground that was close by, anyway.

Toyota_Jim
06-04-2002, 07:28 PM
I always use a steel 3/4" chain. Or a 3/4" cable mainline.

MattS
06-04-2002, 07:36 PM
My cousin got 108 stitches to the back of his head after a chain like that broke and came thru the back window of his truck. Post this over on that "other" jeep board. You will get better replies. :flipoff2:

CheapXJ
06-04-2002, 08:34 PM
well, the tow strap had a nice slice in it, so i wasn't surprised that it broke. and yeah, it did come from walmart.

I'm damn surprised he didn't hydrolock it. And i may be dumb, but i'm not dumb enough to actually try and pull him with the other XJ. that was simply an anchor point. Couldn't have been too much force. barely took any effort with the come alongs. His tires were too damn bald to dig himself into a hole. (only ONE tire had tread, the only one that DIDN'T spin.

The pictures did neglect to show floormats towels and misc pieces of carpet draped over the chains and cable. It doesn't make up for the stupidity of it all, but it makes it a little safer. I know it was fawkin stupid. that;s why i kept my fat ass out of the way, well out of the way.

I believe you forgot to point out that the chain was wrapped around the spring shackle on the grey XJ bcause THAT dumbass didn't have a hitch or towhooks. Yet another stupid move!

and yes, there is another fat f*ck in the background with a camera. SHOW YOURSELF!!! pussy.

high traveler
06-04-2002, 11:41 PM
sorry, i didn't take any pics of myself. oh, and to all you other f#ckers, what the hell is wrong w/ usin a come along and a tree. worked great. obviously my friends don't have the cash to buy a better way out of a situation like that, i too am poor, i am just not wheelin my rig until it is ready.

OBeasto
06-05-2002, 12:57 AM
Originally posted by bigdude


Huh:confused: If the intake is raised with the cone compared to where it sat from the factory then how is that worse? (and don't get into the whole air box explanation)

The thing is, when you add a cone filter onto an XJ, you are not raising the intake at all. The only thing that happens is water can be sucked in at all angles as opposed to the 2"x4" opening of the stock air box. The only way to raise the intake on an XJ is to add a snorkle. At least the stock box provides protection from the bottom. . .

bigdude
06-05-2002, 05:13 AM
Originally posted by OBeasto
The thing is, when you add a cone filter onto an XJ, you are not raising the intake at all.

Well sh!t it's 8:00 in the morning and I already learned something today:D ;)

Oxjockey
06-05-2002, 05:18 AM
Dude, where do we send canned food donations? That kid needs to eat.

high traveler
06-05-2002, 10:15 AM
you :rainbow: 's are dumb. that cone filter isn't under the head light like the stock piece of shit, and can't u queers read, it was above water. all that anal action must impair yer vision.

bigdude
06-05-2002, 10:21 AM
Originally posted by high traveler
you :rainbow: 's are dumb. that cone filter isn't under the head light like the stock piece of shit, and can't u queers read, it was above water. all that anal action must impair yer vision.

With all the mention of homosexuals I would wager you are in denial (on top of sounding like a moron getting so uppity about a stock XJ stuck in a water hole)

ramv
06-05-2002, 10:24 AM
http://www.99f-150.freeservers.com/images/aaron1.jpg

For those of you who know where the stock air intake on a Ranger is .... You know this one didn't have it. I had a 5.5" cone filter located at the back of the passenger side engine compartment with flex hose covering it and breathing at the back and top of the inner fender but angled down so water wouldn't splash in. Just wanted to say that a cone filter can work, but needs an airbox. This did free up some ponies on the 60 000 mile 3.0L as well.

Eskimo
06-05-2002, 10:37 AM
Originally posted by high traveler
you :rainbow: 's are dumb. that cone filter isn't under the head light like the stock piece of shit, and can't u queers read, it was above water. all that anal action must impair yer vision.

I guess you can't read... They explained why a cone filter is NOT the hot ticket for off-road use, unless it's encased and ducted. It's semi-humorous, and also sad that you can't figure our where the water in the oil came from, but you say how dry the filter was... Where do you, in your infinte 15 year old wisdom, think the water got into the engine????

Dear gawd, I suddenly feel old. I've been wrenching longer than this jackhole has been alive!:rasta:

bigdude
06-05-2002, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by Eskimo


Where do you, in your infinte 15 year old wisdom, think the water got into the engine????



Well duh, it obviously leaked in through the oil pan because the fat kid didn't put the bolt back in tight enough after moving it so he could work on the muffler bearings to get ready for some heavy mall cruising.:flipoff2:

Eskimo
06-05-2002, 11:12 AM
That's why I changed to sealed muffler bearings on my FJ... they never need work! :flipoff2:

bigdude
06-05-2002, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by Eskimo
That's why I changed to sealed muffler bearings on my FJ... they never need work! :flipoff2:

I'll have to check at Auto Zone to see if they have them for my application. I have to go there anyway to get new hubcaps for my beadlocks:D

Eskimo
06-05-2002, 12:02 PM
I was actually thinking of buying some 15" hubcaps for my non-beadlock wheels... Sicne my rig is so funny-looking anyway, I just figured it would be good for a laugh when I go out to the local "playground" to goof off.

Would have to take them off for the rocks, though, don't wanna scratch the bling-bling!:rasta: :D :p

Chrisjeep7
06-05-2002, 12:16 PM
i saw a jeep w/ 39 boggers w/ chrome hub caps....bling bling...

O and i love the cone vs. the air box....if it was so "dry" and "above" the water how did he lock the engine? underwear nomes?


Chris G.

OBeasto
06-05-2002, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by high traveler
you :rainbow: 's are dumb. that cone filter isn't under the head light like the stock piece of shit, and can't u queers read, it was above water. all that anal action must impair yer vision.


Ok let me try one more time here. Just because the air filter was above the water when you got stuck doesn't mean water didn't splash up in it when you were romping around in the mud. If the cone would have been underwater when you were stuck you would have been REALLY screwed. I mean hell, when I hydrolocked mine a few years ago, the water was up to the top of the bumper, but the splashing caused it to go up in the intake. When the engine died my intake was still 3-4 inches above the water. I mean I realize you're the genious in all of this (from the posts you make as well as the pictures indicated) but go back to studying in high school so one day you can play with the big boys. Until then the malls are waiting. . . . I'll drink a :beer: for ya since you're not of age yet.

Josh 89XJ
06-05-2002, 03:40 PM
Actually, if you really wanted to raise the intake on an XJ and run a cone filter, you can get some 3" mandrel bent exhaust tubing. Grab a 30* piece and a 90* piece. Pop them together, weld in the fittings for the hoses, and then mount them to a plate on top of your throttle body. Good as new. The tube that you just made will cross over the valve cover (barely clears the hood) and angle the intake right up by the firewall. Build a little sheetmetal barrier under it to protect from splashes and you are good to go.

Or better yet...

RUN A FAWKING SNORKLE IF YOU WANT TO PLAY IN THE WATER!

phineas
06-05-2002, 09:26 PM
maybe my jeeps just too old, butwhat the fuck does a muffler bearing do? You guys always mention them (and blinker fluid??)when you're making fun of somebody, and I was just curious.

Joe_W
06-05-2002, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by phineas
maybe my jeeps just too old, butwhat the fuck does a muffler bearing do? You guys always mention them (and blinker fluid??)when you're making fun of somebody, and I was just curious.

Dear lord..let this newbie be sarcastic in his post and not as dim as he 1st appears

amen

phineas
06-05-2002, 09:39 PM
no - Im just a moron.

Theres all kinds of stuff on new cars that I dont know shit about, I didnt know it was just a big joke I seriously thought there was such a thing.


Sorry for opening my mouth.
phineas

Peabody
06-05-2002, 09:42 PM
Everyone bow their heads and pray for the poor boy... :flipoff2:






ps: wanna go snipe hunting?

EricZ
06-05-2002, 09:47 PM
Originally posted by phineas
maybe my jeeps just too old, butwhat the fuck does a muffler bearing do? You guys always mention them (and blinker fluid??)when you're making fun of somebody, and I was just curious.




LMFAO!!!

Moab Austin
06-05-2002, 10:05 PM
Originally posted by StinkBug
that is a whole album full of stupidity in photographs. WTF were you thinkin, comealongs, and CHAINS. Damn i wish i still had the pics of the YJ i saw with a tow strap runnin from the front bumper, thru the windshield, thru the driver seat, and out the back window, all because the strap had hooks on the end. Chains are even worse. I cant believe how stupid some people are. If the strap breaks get another one dipshit.

Dallas

I have that pic at work..hte maroon CJ?

it killed the guy I heard...

PS this post sucks I hope I am in chat right now!

high traveler
06-05-2002, 11:55 PM
you guys are so busy trying to be assholes that u are assuming that the heep is mine, and it wasn't locked up, it actually started while it was in the water, and obviously if u looked at the pics, u would see that it ran after we got it out. i don't drive heeps, and i am not in any pics, cuz i was takin them, so therefore u would have no clue as to what my age is. i am sorry that i am not good enough to be liked by u guys because i am not wrenchin on a rotted out `78 subaru wagon while saying that i am a bad ass rock crawlin' mud slingin' mother f#cker, and everyone believes it cuz i sit at home all day and post on this MB so i have 2000 posts. i also can't figure out why everybody is against beatin the shit out of a piece a shit and gettin stuck and usin' what ya got around ya to get out. obviously our location was a mall parking lot, cuz wee hang out with all the tuner fags and drive in circles outside of A&A auto parts, then we go buy high performance APC muffler bearings, glo in the dark blinker fluid and electric waternaters.

CheapXJ
06-06-2002, 01:03 AM
one thing to clear up. . .

the owner of the flooded jeep doesn't even have a computer, let alone reads this board, so every one bitching at him is bitching at nobody. :D

i for one can't stop laughing at it. He's drivin around now with nothin but a driver's seat and a dashboard in his interior, and considering how he's been beating that thing around the past two days, i think the motor's okay. . .

But what do i know, i'm just a DAN :flipoff2:

High Traveler, go :smokin: and then go make a diamond plate dashboard for yer scout, (one of them there Backdoor Binders?)you're gettin way too worked up over this. Being a newbie on POR and calling everyone assholes is like running in the special olympics, no matter what the outcome you're still retarded.

seRob
06-06-2002, 02:15 AM
come awn... I think most of us have had a lapse in judgement & played u-boat captain at one point or another. I do have to say playing in a water hole that big with slicks and inadaquate (sp) recovery equipment is a little further than just a lapse tho...
:shaking: But you said it, your friend does the dumbist shit, and yea, I'll have to agree with you.

MattS
06-06-2002, 10:45 AM
You can get the parts you need here: http://www.kalecoauto.com

They sell High Quality Synthetic Blinker Fluid: http://www.kalecoauto.com/fluids.htm

Extra Strength Muffler Bearing: http://www.kalecoauto.com/general.htm

And alot of other useful hard to find parts. Hope this helps.


Originally posted by phineas
maybe my jeeps just too old, butwhat the fuck does a muffler bearing do? You guys always mention them (and blinker fluid??)when you're making fun of somebody, and I was just curious.

Erich In AZ
06-06-2002, 10:59 AM
Originally posted by phineas
maybe my jeeps just too old, butwhat the fuck does a muffler bearing do? You guys always mention them (and blinker fluid??)when you're making fun of somebody, and I was just curious.

:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

RobTB
06-06-2002, 11:05 AM
Know on that pic that has its a Fauking jeep thing writen on the window.Would you be refering to getting stuck or breaking down???:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Joe_W
06-06-2002, 11:40 AM
Originally posted by MattS
You can get the parts you need here: http://www.kalecoauto.com

They sell High Quality Synthetic Blinker Fluid: http://www.kalecoauto.com/fluids.htm

Extra Strength Muffler Bearing: http://www.kalecoauto.com/general.htm

And alot of other useful hard to find parts. Hope this helps.




That is some funny shit!! I may have to get me one of dem t-shirts, after all a 15hp increase would be a 25% boost for my samurai!! :D

Macgyver
06-06-2002, 04:00 PM
Originally posted by RobTB
Know on that pic that has its a Fauking jeep thing writen on the window.Would you be refering to getting stuck or breaking down???:flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

no, the jeep thing is that most owners buy a jeep, don't have any experience with driving offroad and automatically consider themselves avid offroaders as soon as they attach a roof rack, 15 KC lights and a tow hook.

RobTB
06-06-2002, 04:19 PM
Originally posted by Macgyver


no, the jeep thing is that most owners buy a jeep, don't have any experience with driving offroad and automatically consider themselves avid offroaders as soon as they attach a roof rack, 15 KC lights and a tow hook. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: that was funny

ramv
06-06-2002, 04:29 PM
They attach a tow hook? Must be different Jeep people then I see.

seRob
06-06-2002, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by Macgyver


no, the jeep thing is that most owners buy a jeep, don't have any experience with driving offroad and automatically consider themselves avid offroaders as soon as they attach a roof rack, 15 KC lights and a tow hook.

oh, so the quota for becoming an 'offroader' is down to ony 15 lights now, huh? :D

psychobitch
06-06-2002, 08:38 PM
:beer: :beer: :beer: Maybe one too many of these!!!

Peabody
06-07-2002, 07:08 AM
Tow hooks? Don't you just wrap the chain around your shackle?? :flipoff2:

bigdude
06-07-2002, 07:13 AM
Originally posted by Macgyver


no, the jeep thing is that most owners buy a jeep, don't have any experience with driving offroad and automatically consider themselves avid offroaders as soon as they attach a roof rack, 15 KC lights and a tow hook.

You so right. It really is pretty sad nowadays:( . It didn't used to be like this:mad3: