http://www.lawrencian.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=448&Itemid=45
This article is from a Kansas news paper.

Note that 'someone' went house to house, broke into secure storage containers and removed all guns from the homes.
This was prior to people being allowed back into their homes.
Seems like someone didn't learn post Katrina.....or worse they DID
:mad3:

hm... makes you want to keep a some throwaways in an obvious safe and put the good ones in a well hidden safe.

Some of the article isn't related...here is the gun stuff

"Then I mentioned that the anarchists said that everyone’s guns had been confiscated in Greensburg.

“That’s true,” Stejskal confirmed, and, she said, many of the people of Greensburg were none too happy about it.

Greensburg citizen Larry Brennan still doesn’t know which government agency gave the order to gather up every single gun in Greensburg, which amounted to several hundred. And he’s asked, many times.

Brennan says he knows that some people in this world are against guns. He also understands that in an emergency situation, unsecured guns are better off in the hands of the authorities than lying on the ground where some kid or criminal could pick one up.

But Brennan says that his guns were in a secure, locked case where they’d be safe and dry for a couple of days until he could get to them. When he was allowed into the city to look over his property, he found that his gun case had been broken into and left open to the elements. “They don’t have the right to break into the remains of your house and take your guns,” he said. “They went house-to-house, room-to-room, closet-to-closet, even in structures that were still standing, for three days before they let anybody back into town. If I had three sacks of rare coins in a closet or room (that authorities broke into) and when I came back to retrieve my belongings, if my coins are gone, did they go away with the tornado or did someone take them? We don’t know.”

Brennan then began asking the powers-that-be in town if he could have his guns back. For several days, he was told “No.”

“I called every politician I could think of,” says Brennan. “None of them cared. They said, ‘You’re in an emergency situation.’”

So Brennan—and several other Greensburg citizens—called the NRA. “They were here the next day from Washington, D.C.,” Brennan says.

And they brought a film crew with them.

The NRA wired Brennan with a mic and followed him and others as they went to local authorities asking for their firearms to be returned. The citizens of Greensburg figured out that their guns were being held in a trailer. Brennan says that for three days, people lined up outside the trailer, asking for their firearms to be returned to them. Finally, authorities relented.

When gun owners went to pick up their guns, Brennan says they found them simply piled to the roof of the dark, wet, 40-foot trailer. None of the guns had been labeled, and Brennan says that guns were returned to anyone who claimed to own them.

“I asked, ‘Which ones are mine?’ ‘We don’t know,’ they told me. You sifted through rows and rows terribly rusty, mostly unrecognizable guns. I said, ‘I could take this $1200 Browning over my $800 Remington.’ And they just shrugged their shoulders and said, ‘Yeah, you could.’”

Brennan says that while he’ll still be able to go hunting with his guns, their appearance has been forever damaged. He’s also confident that some people took guns that didn’t belong to them, while others gave up trying to recover their guns altogether. “Most everybody now in Greensburg have recovered everything they could and they have jobs and they’ve moved on. But I’m sure that there are many guns left in that trailer.”

Brennan also said that any gun taken from the ‘gun trailer’ that didn’t have proof of registration had to be registered on the spot.

“Every gun that I retrieved is now registered with the federal government,” Brennan said. “It was gun control. They saw an opportunity in a small community with thousands of guns and they saw an opportunity to seize as many guns as they could.”

NRA officials are about as tight-lipped about the gun incident in Greensburg as the Lawrence Police are about the anarchists, but they seem to be satisfied that the folks in Greensburg are at least having their firearms returned to them. When asked if they thought resident’s guns had been handled improperly, they declined to say.
But they did issue this press release, which is posted on their Web site:

‘Last week, NRA reported that we were investigating allegations of gun confiscation in the aftermath of the tornado that ravaged Greensburg, Kan. NRA received a number of phone calls from troubled NRA members in Greensburg who were concerned that law enforcement had inappropriately removed firearms from their homes after the deadly tornadoes. In response, NRA sent representatives to Greensburg to gather as much information as possible, spoke with area law enforcement and local elected officials to determine what had transpired.

After investigating these complaints, there was no evidence of any illegal gun confiscations or seizures. However, there were firearms recovered by law enforcement that are now in the process of being returned.

Gun owners whose firearms were recovered by area law enforcement may claim them at the ‘gun trailer,’ located east of Davis Park on the north side of US 54. Please bring proper identification. The trailer is open from 10 a.m. until 4 p.m. Monday through Friday until all firearms are returned.

NRA will continue to monitor the situation in Greensburg, and we will remain vigilant in investigating any future complaints of illegal gun confiscation wherever it may happen. If your firearms were recovered by law enforcement following the tornado in Greensburg and you have any trouble retrieving your firearms, please call us at 1-800-392-8683.’

An NRA official did say that if it became necessary to release the film they took while in the small Kansas town they would, but that right now they didn’t think that was the case.
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hm... makes you want to keep a some throwaways in an obvious safe and put the good ones in a well hidden safe.

I had been more concerned about fire. Even with a long rated safe, I don't think they are water or smoke proof. Now I have to also come up with a 'hidden' room

my guns now have thier own "transport container" and will LEAVE with me. fuck that.
ALL of them every single fucking one

We heard the same thing in Texas when the toronado tore up Jarrell Texas ten years ago or so... It never escalated as far as this situation though, and I dont think anyone ever got their guns back.

my guns now have thier own "transport container" and will LEAVE with me. fuck that.
ALL of them every single fucking one


Yeah, the rifles are the first thing loaded up if I have to take off. Which reminds me, I need to get another 2-gun case...

I have family, that if this happened in their area they would get their own "container" for their arsenal...

I would be supper pissed if I came home from a natural disaster only to find that the government had rummaged through my things and taken all of my weapons...

ALMOST mad enough to take my things back by force if need be...

I have thought about this before.

I would be forced to take the weapons I may use and I would have to leave the rest. :(

the 1919, and the AR-50 would most likely be left behind as well as some of my nice hunting rifles and pistols.

The tactical shit would go with me for obvious reasons.




Pisses me off.

I am thinking that the safe itself would stop them. It's 1000 pounds by itself and I have a sign reading: EXPLOSIVES 1.2G 1 taped on the side of it. I have it so someone thinks twice before cutting it open.

An explosives HAZMAT placard on the safe is a good idea.

I was considering a cement wall/roof with it's own door around the safe.
If I could find a good horizontal safe that was fire rated I have the perfect spot for it.

I was considering a cement wall/roof with it's own door around the safe.
If I could find a good horizontal safe that was fire rated I have the perfect spot for it.

Isn't any safe horizontal once you lay it on it's side? :flipoff2:

And back on topic...what's really gay is that these fawkers will absolutely get away with this because in court they'll say it was to protect the people or some dumb shit...

W T F?

I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but I will say it again. More rights have been lost in the name of 'public safety' than any other cause.


This REALLY pisses me off.
After investigating these complaints, there was no evidence of any illegal gun confiscations or seizures. However, there were firearms recovered by law enforcement that are now in the process of being returned.


Fawk the NRA, fawk Chris Cox, fawk Wayne Buymynextbook LaPiere, and their cronies. "Recovered" implies that the firearms were left out or strewn about after the tornado went through. Illegally entering a residence and forcing open a storage container is THEFT.

The NRA can once again suck taint, my money is going to the VCDL, SAF, and GOA.

Isn't any safe horizontal once you lay it on it's side? :flipoff2:

Yes, and if I must that is the route I will take.

But do I put the hinge at the bottom? So I need feet on the side of the safe.

My thought here is that the cinderblock 'room' will help to protect the safe in the event of a fire.

Everyone of my guns has it's own case, and I wouldn't leave a thing behind, but that's last case because I wouldn't leave unless I HAD to.

Isn't any safe horizontal once you lay it on it's side? :flipoff2:

For real? How does that work?

For real? How does that work?

Hmm, no black text with witty remark.

Vertical |


Horizontal __
:D

my guns now have thier own "transport container" and will LEAVE with me. fuck that.
ALL of them every single fucking one

+1. All of my guns go with me.

The NRA can once again suck taint, my money is going to the VCDL, SAF, and GOA.

don't forget JPFO

don't forget JPFO

Doh, how did I forget them!

VCDL, SAF, GOA, and JPFO

They seem to have be doing well and could use some more support. Plus they support MY ideals not politics.

Any other 'local' groups out there like the VCDL?

VCDL, SAF, GOA, and JPFO

What is the full name of these orgs?

thanks:)

Virginia Citizens Defense League http://www.vcdl.org/
Shit hot local group that has done a lot of good work here in Virginia

Gun Owners of America http://www.gunowners.org/
A national version of the VCDL, NO COMPROMISE 2A advocates. They have a section where you can contact your reps and view alerts. Good site.

Second Amendment Foundation http://www.saf.org/

Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership http://www.jpfo.org/

You need not be Jewish to join. Pound for pound they have accomplished a remarkable amount of work.

SAF and GOA are the one's who brought the lawsuit against New Orleans when Nagin and his Police Chief were creating victims after Katrina came through. The NRA reluctantly piled on. I was on the phone with the NRA as SOON as I heard about the confiscations and got a line of BS. The others were on it.

Everyone of my guns has it's own case, and I wouldn't leave a thing behind, but that's last case because I wouldn't leave unless I HAD to.

You either don't own enough guns or you do own a tractor trailor :D

Virginia Citizens Defense League http://www.vcdl.org/
Shit hot local group that has done a lot of good work here in Virginia

Gun Owners of America http://www.gunowners.org/
A national version of the VCDL, NO COMPROMISE 2A advocates. They have a section where you can contact your reps and view alerts. Good site.

Second Amendment Foundation http://www.saf.org/

Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership http://www.jpfo.org/

You need not be Jewish to join. Pound for pound they have accomplished a remarkable amount of work.

SAF and GOA are the one's who brought the lawsuit against New Orleans when Nagin and his Police Chief were creating victims after Katrina came through. The NRA reluctantly piled on. I was on the phone with the NRA as SOON as I heard about the confiscations and got a line of BS. The others were on it.


Interesting, I'll have to look into those. Thanks. I was only aware of the NRA, and after Hesston left, I figured it would go downhill. I mean, the guy DID part the Red Sea....how do you top that?:laughing:

No possible way for me to take all my guns and ammo...

Interesting, I'll have to look into those. Thanks. I was only aware of the NRA, and after Hesston left, I figured it would go downhill. I mean, the guy DID part the Red Sea....how do you top that?:laughing:

I posted a huge thread on my site about the major NRA fawkups throughout its history where they have supported gun control. I'll try to dig it up and post it here, some people would be surprised. In short the NRA FAWKED us in 34, 38, 68, 86, and 94.

No possible way for me to take all my guns and ammo...

I think if Doc can do it, then you should be able to. Although I think he's gonna need something a little bigger than his heep to carry all of it.


Axle

I can't find the link at the moment, but I remember Instapundit, who's generally very gun-friendly, linking to a webpage that was basically propoganda. There were photos of a kindly Kansas peace officer returning guns that he had so faithfully and lovingly guarded for the citizens in his care. I noticed lots of large, lavish quotes from NRA officials. The gun range that's down the street from me requires membership in the NRA to join the range. Looks like I'll be finding another one.

Obviously none of you who say you would take all of your guns with you, have never been in a tornado. If you even come out of your home at all, you are either injured, on a strecher, or dead. With little to no warning how do you plan on getting too, packing up, and removing all your firearms? And after the tornado, if you aren't injured, you might be able to hand carry a couple guns out, but not much more. Most people are more concerned about their family members and neighbors than there firearms. Just my thoughts!

Who says my guns aren't members of the family?:D

Obviously none of you who say you would take all of your guns with you, have never been in a tornado. If you even come out of your home at all, you are either injured, on a strecher, or dead. With little to no warning how do you plan on getting too, packing up, and removing all your firearms? And after the tornado, if you aren't injured, you might be able to hand carry a couple guns out, but not much more. Most people are more concerned about their family members and neighbors than there firearms. Just my thoughts!

Were not only talking about Tornados. You are right in some cases you don't have time to think. Thats why you plan ahead.

And I could not take everything either, but they'd need a torch to get the safes open