OHV Recreationists.......

I just received this from Carla Boucher, United Four Wheel Drive Attorney.
I've heard "rumblings" about this but this is the first of anything in
depth........... Along with Carla's concerns I'm in my "angry" mode again
re "WHY ONLY MOTORIZED"?????

Please pass this information on to your club members and/or your email list.
Obviously this is "happening" and we ALL need to get involved and pay
attention. THEY WIN, IF WE IGNORE.

Personally I don't have a problem with a "motorized user 'sticker' program"
but I want the funds to support our sport and issues............. not some
"company president's pocket"! Please pay attention to the facts should any
of you be selected. I'll forward any additional information as I get it.

Sandee


Subject: Use caution with new group




A company or program called Superior Trails is developing a permit =
scheme for all federal lands. The company is hoping to get federal =
authorization to institute a mandatory permit costing $35.00 as a =
requirement for all OHV travel on federally-managed lands. The permit =
would be required before any person may travel on federal land using =
four wheel drives, ATVs, or motorcycles. In order to obtain a permit a =
user would be required to take a test and pass it pertaining to =
appropriate mechanical requirements and user ethics. Test taking =
stations would be available at merchants such as auto dealers, parts =
places, and 4x4 shops. =20

In addition to the permit, the company would institute its own law =
enforcement regulations. Fines for violations of the regulations are =
ranging from $900 to $1000 per violation.

I have been discussing the program with one of the partners of the =
company and trying to explain to them the problems associated with this =
system. He has recently informed me that he intends to poll four wheel =
drive clubs to see whether they support the development of such a =
system. =20

One of the initial problems I have with this concept (and I have many =
problems with it right now) is that their website is currently set up to =
allow a user to take the test and if they pass, collect their $35.00 for =
a permit. The website can be viewed at www.superiortrail.com . However, =
until the program is approved legislatively through Congress the money =
you spend on a permit gets you nothing. Also, the website has =
Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) but it fails to plainly state that this =
program would REQUIRE every motorized user to have one of their permits =
to recreate on federal lands and it fails to indicate that a permit paid =
for now means nothing and the money the user spends to get the permit =
($35.00) gets them nothing, it simply lines the pocket of the company =
developing the program. In short, I have strongly indicated to these =
people my problems with their idea.=20

My concern is that your member clubs will only get a part of the story =
when they are polled for their reaction. Please advise them to proceed =
cautiously with this company and their program and to ask a lot of =
questions if they are polled before taking a position on whether to =
support this program.

Thanks for taking the time to pass this information on to all your =
members.

If you or your clubs have any questions about this program please don't =
hesitate to contact me.

Carla

That's one of the most idiotic things I've ever heard. Add that one to my Green Nonsense list.:mad:

Just sent those whackos and email letting them know what I think about their idea. I will actively oppose any such plan.:nuke:

Any ideas of what groups are supported by Superior Trails? Who do they associate with? Who sits on the BOD for the company?

The trail of money may lead to a situation like the SUV.org website (funded by the GAG's) with an anti-OHV agenda.

Happy Trails!




"So call me a cynic, your going to twist everything I say anyway"

Ed, that was exactly what my first reaction was, that's why its going on my Green Nonsense list!:barf:

From: "Sandee McCullen" <mccullen@c...>
Date: Tue Jun 4, 2002 5:20 pm
Subject: RE: [az_vjc] Re: Superior trails....


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Thanks for your letter.............. we need "thousands" of these letters
to go out. The problem is, however, the BLM is already "backing" this. I
don't know if they "initiated" this or not but they definitely know about it
and seem to be supporting it! Your letters need to be directed at the Dept.
of Interior as well......... Your congressmen and representatives are a
good idea also.

#1 point of issue: Are we not ALREADY paying for use of PUBLIC
lands......... i.e. "TAXES". Do our TAXES not pay for "management of
public lands"????????

S.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: pwhhl [mailto:pwhhl@y...]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2002 4:15 PM
> To: az_vjc@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [az_vjc] Re: Superior trails....
>
>
> Here is my letter to Superior Trails which will also be copied to the
> agencies and individuals listed in the email:
>
> To whom it may concern,
>
> After visiting your web site and reading what your company has to
> offer, I have a few comments I would like to say to you:
>
> You are kidding me right? This is the most ludicrous act of scamming
> money out of the general public I have seen in a long time. Your
> fines and regulations of GOVERNMENT land is utterly ridiculous. You
> have no right and no authority to regulate lands and the US
> Government nor any State agency can or will give you the right to
> enforce these regulations. You are simply a fraudulent business who
> specializes in making a profit of of the naive and gullible.
>
> I am sending this site link with my formal complaint to the Better
> Business Bureau, The Internet Fraud Complaint Center, The US Forest
> Service, and The State Of Texas Attorney General. As well I will be
> contacting several Arizona State and Texas State representatives and
> congressmen voicing my concern over fly by night groups like
> yourselves advertising law enforcement and fine collection practices
> over the general public without consent.In my opinion you are guilty
> of attempting to impersonate a government law enforcment agency and
> should be shut down immedialtely.
>
> Thank you for your time and I look forward to your anticipated site
> shutdown.
>
> - Eric Birks
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Nice letter. Mine wasn't nearly as long or as polite.:mad2:

#2 FAQ's: Because Superior Trail is an independent company and reserves the right to revoke or suspend any license at any time for any reason, there is no court system. All appeals are processed through Superior Trail and all findings are final.
Now this is a scary thought... :eek:

I also like how 10% of the fines go back to them. So basically they'll be fining people like crazy because it's money for them. But if you are fined unfairly what are you going to do to fight it? They aren't part of anything other then a screw you program... :mad3: