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last year there was just too many people. who can we keep people from going there during thanksgiving:laughing:i wanted to shoot all the bikes/quad familys....i know they were just have fun....so can push them back to glamis:D mabey we should post a sign that says no quads or bikes:p
mrblaine
06-15-2007, 09:19 PM
last year there was just too many people. who can we keep people from going there during thanksgiving:laughing:i wanted to shoot all the bikes/quad familys....i know they were just have fun....so can push them back to glamis:D mabey we should post a sign that says no quads or bikes:p
We need to start by inviting a few Rangers out to enforce all the helmet, no passenger, age, safety certificate, and open container rules for running out there.
If they get the hint that it's not the free for all they've been playing at in the past, maybe they won't show again.
I still can't fathom why with almost 200,000 acres out there, they need to run up and down the main road as their sole means of recreation.
I still can't fathom why with almost 200,000 acres out there, they need to run up and down the main road as their sole means of recreation.
Because 98% of the people that go out there have no clue that there is anything else besides the lakebed out there.:shaking:
Butler
06-16-2007, 05:14 PM
Just tell them I'm going to be there. That's sure to keep 90% of them away.
mrblaine
06-16-2007, 11:10 PM
Just tell them I'm going to be there. That's sure to keep 90% of them away.
You got a deal. Can I get you to sorta stand out by the highway starting about Monday of the week of Thanksgiving and hold up a sign with your name on it?
You got a deal. Can I get you to sorta stand out by the highway starting about Monday of the week of Thanksgiving and hold up a sign with your name on it?
Giving them something to aim at?:laughing:
Jeff Knoll
06-17-2007, 09:04 AM
We need to start by inviting a few Rangers out to enforce all the helmet, no passenger, age, safety certificate, and open container rules for running out there.
If they get the hint that it's not the free for all they've been playing at in the past, maybe they won't show again.
I still can't fathom why with almost 200,000 acres out there, they need to run up and down the main road as their sole means of recreation.
Years and years ago when I was involved in the Cal 4 wheel EA commitee, I remember a BLM official explaining what impact a family had on the desert for a weekend and went on to use the example of a parent telling children to ride only as far as they could be seen. I thought back to my time as a kid with a trail 70 and my dad telling me the same thing. Later that year I had a chance to go explore the barstow desert via small plane. I could then see first hand what that ranger had said. 500 foot circles in the desert picked clean with a fire pit in the middle.
I like to go boating at Lake Mohave and we have the same problem. Within 2 miles of the marina the PWC are so thick it is almost unsafe, but go a few miles away and there are none.
I doubt manufactures will ever step up and train people on the safe use of the products they sell, but Education is what is needed. balancing the rights of all to recreate is a slippery slope and I just deal with the crowds on holidays knowing that most weekends they will not be there.
I keep threatining to find a better place to camp then that damn lake bed but I have yet to go explore a new camp location.:D
I keep threatining to find a better place to camp then that damn lake bed but I have yet to go explore a new camp location.:D
I've been going out to JV for about 25 years now and it never ceases to amuse me that anytime I mention going somewhere else in the area all I get is a blank stare as if anything past the end of the lakebed is the end of the universe.However,when I go out there by myself or with a few other people I know we avoid the lakebed like the plauge.
i dont understand what yall are talking about. personally, i love camping next to an entire day care centere which have been armed with every 2 stroke ever created and their moms tell them to go ride before breakfast!:flipoff2:
i dont understand what yall are talking about. personally, i love camping next to an entire day care centere which have been armed with every 2 stroke ever created and their moms tell them to go ride before breakfast!:flipoff2:
Ya, well you tried to kill your dog too, so what does that say about ya?:flipoff2:
Ya, well you tried to kill your dog too, so what does that say about ya?:flipoff2:
at least i did it around noon when every one in the nieghborhood was up:flipoff2:
Rock-Wear
06-19-2007, 11:28 AM
Hobie, maybe that would be a good time to scout/break new trails in the Soggy Lakebed area. We have found lots of stuff that could be REALLY good, we just always end up out there in the afternoon and dont want to get stuck after dark in a place we dont know too well.
The only time I have camped there, there was NOBODY else on the lakebed, we got full cell coverage, and the lakebed was flat as can be so it was fun to haul ass!!!
MilSpec
06-22-2007, 09:52 AM
Up until last year, I lived maybe 30 minutes away. Used to go out there on weekdays and non holidays times. Place was empty. I have a few pics somewhere of the lake bed completely void of any human form.
If you go past the western entrance traveling east, there is a turn off heading south. Rattlesnack canyon. I know of a few people that have camped back in there.
Like Jeff said, just go a little bit farther down. They'll run out of fuel eventually. :D
I have often thought about a "no wake zone" type area around the lake bed and camp areas. It would help with the loud 3am drive by's, donut spinning and kids on 50's. Not to mention it would probably cut down on the amount of motorcylce riders. I think it would help JV be a lot safer place since the lakebed is by far the most accident prone area at JV.
The problem is that I have no idea how it would be enforced. Especially with the motorcycle crowd.
lok'd chic
06-26-2007, 10:57 AM
How to keep people from acting like idiots anytime out there. Let's see, we have been in camp with people drunk in there 4x4 buggies doing donuts on the lakebed, drunk on the trails in their buggies, falling off of Boone road into the ravine in their buggies, up all hours of the night-in their buggies making noise-people driving through random camps looking for people to wheel with all on big 4x4 vehicle event weekends, people pouring gasoline on the trail to light it on fire as they go up---let's see just how stupid has the 4x4 community been out there? kinda stupid huh?
Now, we have been out there many, many times when just other bike and quad riders were out there and guess what-most of them wore helmets, they went to bed early (unlike the 4x4 crowd who comes rolling in off a trail at odark thirty)-we just generally had a great time and it was much more peaceful when the 4x4'ers were not there. So, maybe we should think of how to keep the 4x4's out of there? Or hell, let's just work on getting the place closed to all OHV type stuff....
Frreaking whiny ass people :shaking:
catfish<><
06-26-2007, 03:18 PM
the place seems pretty big to me, we have been out there alot, just camp in a different spot away from the main area
bob
www.extremewheelers4christ.org
How to keep people from acting like idiots anytime out there. Let's see, we have been in camp with people drunk in there 4x4 buggies doing donuts on the lakebed, drunk on the trails in their buggies, falling off of Boone road into the ravine in their buggies, up all hours of the night-in their buggies making noise-people driving through random camps looking for people to wheel with all on big 4x4 vehicle event weekends, people pouring gasoline on the trail to light it on fire as they go up---let's see just how stupid has the 4x4 community been out there? kinda stupid huh?
gawd I love that place :flipoff2: bring it !!
if that doesn't sound fun to you... wait a week and go. you will have the whole desert to yourself. I like it both ways. packed and a party and empty and all to myself
gawd I love that place :flipoff2: bring it !!
if that doesn't sound fun to you... wait a week and go. you will have the whole desert to yourself. I like it both ways. packed and a party and empty and all to myself
there are few people i know that have been on that lake bed compeletly alone at night. camo, i know you have done it. i did it last year for one night and it wsa sooooo freaky scary:laughing:
Rock-Wear
06-26-2007, 08:54 PM
My GF and I had the whole lakebed to ourselves a couple years ago on my birthday. It was REALLY cool with a full moon! And the bonus was she walked around nekid all night:D
lok'd chic
06-26-2007, 09:29 PM
gawd I love that place :flipoff2: bring it !!
if that doesn't sound fun to you... wait a week and go. you will have the whole desert to yourself. I like it both ways. packed and a party and empty and all to myself
It was fun to us:D:D
Too bad we will miss it from now on:(
My GF and I had the whole lakebed to ourselves a couple years ago on my birthday. It was REALLY cool with a full moon! And the bonus was she walked around nekid all night:D
ya when i was there, there was no moon. it was so black that you couldnt see beyond the shawdows of the campfire. and of course when i went to sleeep, in the middle of the night, i heard a loud knock on the trailer and it freaked me out and i just froze in my bed and didnt move.
there are few people i know that have been on that lake bed compeletly alone at night. camo, i know you have done it. i did it last year for one night and it wsa sooooo freaky scary:laughing:
ya when i was there, there was no moon. it was so black that you couldnt see beyond the shawdows of the campfire. and of course when i went to sleeep, in the middle of the night, i heard a loud knock on the trailer and it freaked me out and i just froze in my bed and didnt move.
We found that out the first year I went to the jambo in 2006. We went out wheeling all day Sunday, came back after dark and couldn't find camp. Everyone was gone except for one RV. On the monday we were all alone.
You guys are acting like greenies thinking your form of recreation is more important than the next.
Untill we ALL band together we stand to loose all but private property.
Chris Geiger
07-07-2007, 11:35 PM
And the bonus was she walked around nekid all night:D
We are going to need to talk about doing another photo shoot :D
Hammered Scout
07-08-2007, 12:41 AM
I'm not going to comment because he's talking about "shooting families" and using poor grammer too.:shaking:
Broke That
07-08-2007, 10:18 PM
I spend my Thanksgiving out at Gordon's Well and the only way to get any sleep is with ear plugs.
I'd bet ear plugs would work out at JV too!
:D
YJ Bill
07-10-2007, 02:23 AM
I quit going to Glamis on Thanksgiving 20 years ago because of the zoo, now it's starting to get like that at all the crawling areas, assholes!
Hammer Hog
07-10-2007, 06:45 AM
It's all about timing and acceptance...
For example, we went to Glamis last year on the Sunday afternoon of Thanksgiving weekend. We virtually had the place to ourselves for 4 days. We missed the estimated 100K crowd.
As for deliberately going to the Hammers on holiday weekends, ya got to go knowing it's going to be a mess. But then again, you can camp as close or as far away as you want.
But we don't need to call in the rangers! That would be like shooting ourselves in the foot. :shaking:
Chris
07-10-2007, 07:59 AM
I spend my Thanksgiving out at Gordon's Well and the only way to get any sleep is with ear plugs.
I'd bet ear plugs would work out at JV too!
:D
This is how I sleep at JV, Pismo, wherever. It works great!
How to keep people from acting like idiots anytime out there. Let's see, we have been in camp with people drunk in there 4x4 buggies doing donuts on the lakebed, drunk on the trails in their buggies, falling off of Boone road into the ravine in their buggies, up all hours of the night-in their buggies making noise-people driving through random camps looking for people to wheel with all on big 4x4 vehicle event weekends, people pouring gasoline on the trail to light it on fire as they go up---let's see just how stupid has the 4x4 community been out there? kinda stupid huh?
HA HA, that is what I was thinking. "What is up with these people driving their 4x4s in the middle of the night spinning doughnuts and purposely flipping them over right next to camp". :homer: Then I thought "Cool, lets go watch".
I used to hate the five year old kids that rode right next to my camp all day long, I figured fawk it and just had two kids of my own. All I need is two more years and my kids will be riding next to your camp all day long FAWKERS!!!:flipoff2::flipoff2:
packnrat
07-17-2007, 05:42 PM
that might have been me looking for some help,
i left the camp when the trailer started shaking and a quriving and heard some teeth chatting inside.
lok'd chic
08-07-2007, 12:06 PM
HA HA, that is what I was thinking. "What is up with these people driving their 4x4s in the middle of the night spinning doughnuts and purposely flipping them over right next to camp". :homer: Then I thought "Cool, lets go watch".
I used to hate the five year old kids that rode right next to my camp all day long, I figured fawk it and just had two kids of my own. All I need is two more years and my kids will be riding next to your camp all day long FAWKERS!!!:flipoff2::flipoff2:
:laughing:
We we kinda the same. We started out with the 4runner and our twin 5 year olds in camp on little battery operated toys. Then all the dirt bikes and quads would wake us up all hours of the night. So, we got dirt bikes for everyone in the family. Two-50cc bikes for the kids, a 125 for me and a 230 for my husband. Then we could part take of all the "fun" activities. Then...I went one step further and got a LOUD assed VW sand rail for the desert roads there. :laughing: We totally have all levels of "irritants" covered. :laughing:
But...now we live in KY, so the hammer trips will be far and few.:(
XJ_ranger
08-07-2007, 01:29 PM
You guys are acting like greenies thinking your form of recreation is more important than the next.
Untill we ALL band together we stand to loose all but private property.
the most true words in this thread...
desertkrawler
11-18-2007, 05:19 AM
My GF and I had the whole lakebed to ourselves a couple years ago on my birthday. It was REALLY cool with a full moon! And the bonus was she walked around nekid all night:D
Pics?:D
RedBullJeep
11-18-2007, 01:31 PM
My GF and I had the whole lakebed to ourselves a couple years ago on my birthday. It was REALLY cool with a full moon! And the bonus was she walked around nekid all night:D
That was a great night! The night vision pics from across the lakebed turned out great :evil: :dustin:
Rock-Wear
11-18-2007, 05:04 PM
That was a great night! The night vision pics from across the lakebed turned out great :evil: :dustin:
SWEET!!! Can I get copies?:smokin:
RedBullJeep
11-18-2007, 05:27 PM
Sure wish I wasn't lieing... :(
newimage
11-22-2007, 01:35 PM
Yeah I am on both sides of this coin the Quad Family and the Wheeler I can go both ways. I been at Anzo Borrego during New Years and it was F'n crazy and during TDS with everyone. I guess you have to have a cold one and chill let the kids go nuts in the lake Beds and the Crazyz on the Rocks.
Why cant we all just get along??
paul_arc
11-22-2007, 01:58 PM
Yeah I am on both sides of this coin the Quad Family and the Wheeler I can go both ways. I been at Anzo Borrego during New Years and it was F'n crazy and during TDS with everyone. I guess you have to have a cold one and chill let the kids go nuts in the lake Beds and the Crazyz on the Rocks.
Why cant we all just get along??
Yeah I ride also (a 2 wheeler) but will never take the bike anywhere on a big holliday. A lot safer to be in the fully caged jeep than on the bike for when all the drunks come out and play!
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