I did a search on this topic and really didn't come up with whole lot. I have a friend that has a Toyota truck. It is a 1988 Toyota SR5 with the 22RE in it. He wants more power, but doesn't have a ton of money to do anything to it. So he was thinking that with my help, we could swtich out his 4 banger for a Toyota V6. From what I can gather, we will need a new bell housing, engine, computer, and exhaust system. I can probably pick up a low mileage engine for fairly cheap around here. So that just leaves a few things to acquire. So, is this swap worth it from a power standpoint, or would just doing some mods to the current engine be better? I am not new to Toyota since I own a landcruiser, but I am new to the trucks. Any input that you guys have would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Thomas

Don't waste your time putting the v6 yota motor in. You will gain virtually no power over what you have now. If you want power go with a v8 or if you want to stay toyota go with the supra swap. Search on supra swap and you will find lots of info.

I see lotsa 4.3 Chevy V6 swaps. The V8 swaps tend to require a lot of bodywork and result in more breakage, but of course end up with more ooomph. Dont waste effort putting a Toy V6 in - not enough difference.

Well , from doing a little more research on this issue from your guys suggestions, it looks like doing the V6 swap would be a bust. I don't think that my friend is willing to go to the effort to do a Chevy V6 swap. He doesn't really wheel, and he was just looking for a little more power. Oh well, maybe we will just mod the current engine that he has and call it good. Thanks for the replies guys.

what abotu a 3.4L V6? 190 hp with a avalable factory S/C that can make about 310 hp+

I bet a chevy 4.3 would be a cheeper and easyer swap than the toy V6. Toy V6s are not very well loved around here.

It seems that after you find a decent Chevy 4.3 V6 that is complete, get an adapter for it to the Toyota drive train, and make motor mounts, it would be a lot more expensive than a Toyota V6.
I can probably find a Yota V6 in Colorado for not very much money. Anyway, it doesn't sound like it is even worth it, so I won't even worry about it. Like I said, we will probably just throw some mods on the engine and call it good. Thanks again for the help.

If he wants more power do not go withe the Toyota V-6, there is not that muck of a power gain. I know I own one, yes it does have a bit more power but all of my power on the rockcrawling trails comes from my MARLIN DUAL CASE (shameless plug:D ) and the MARLIN 4:70 GEAR SET (another one:D) in the rear case netting me a whopping 207 to 1. I have driven both the 22RE and the 3.0 V-6 with the exact same MARLIN ( OOP'S another:D) set up and there is not that much difference power wise. Go with the 4.3 GM swap, you will be a lot happier in the end and it is a lot easier than swapping in a V-8 in a full bodied rig. :D :rasta:

Yep gotta echo the other sentiments--just say no to the Toy V6. On top of the other reasons, a basic rebuild on a 3.0 Toy V6 runs about $4,000+. I got more power out of my 22r with a Downey header, a TRD camshaft, new rocker arms, and Downey rocker shafts. Nope, not the same as a 4.3, but an improvement just the same.:blender: :blender:

http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/projects/basham_4runner/

Originally posted by Adam F
http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/projects/basham_4runner/ That is a nice swap, Have to think about that one whenthe time comes. I would not do the SC, do not need it.:rasta:

Well... I think when people are talking no power.. they mean the 3.0 Toy V6. I own a Tacoma with the 3.4 V6 and it has plenty of power. If you can find one with the computer and that is complete, it should be an easy swap!

Yogi

Originally posted by ouibus
I did a search on this topic and really didn't come up with whole lot. I have a friend that has a Toyota truck. It is a 1988 Toyota SR5 with the 22RE in it. He wants more power, but doesn't have a ton of money to do anything to it. So he was thinking that with my help, we could swtich out his 4 banger for a Toyota V6. From what I can gather, we will need a new bell housing, engine, computer, and exhaust system. I can probably pick up a low mileage engine for fairly cheap around here. So that just leaves a few things to acquire. So, is this swap worth it from a power standpoint, or would just doing some mods to the current engine be better? I am not new to Toyota since I own a landcruiser, but I am new to the trucks. Any input that you guys have would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Thomas

yup, they speakith the truth, My v6 4 runner is a turd!! No go power whatsoever!!:nuke:

Yup, night and day difference between the 3.0 and 3.4. Too bad im selling the 96 for a 1st gen! :trooper:

I have the 3.0 V6. A buddy of mine put the 3.4 V6 in his 85 runner. We both have plenty of power to turn meats on the street and off road. With headers and open exhaust and intake, my 3.0L holds its own surprisingly enough. I've taken it to the races and taken out a few riced hondas. It is definatley not as bad as everyone makes it sound like.
There is also a guy from the 4x4wire mailing list putting the 3.0 into his formerly 4 banger'd trail rig. Let me know if you want to get in touch with him.

Im4yotas, if you want to get me his contact info, that would be great. I think that we will hold off on the swap for now, but maybe in the future. Thanks for the heads up, Thomas

I don't hate my 3.0 V6. I recently pulled 2400 lbs (including a trailer) for about 800 miles. I averaged 16.5 mpg (including through the mountains, running the A/C and using cruise) and the power was equal to my 85 22RE unladen. I got 20 - 22 mpg driving back from BC to California.

However, as happy as I am with my V6 (despite some ongoing DOA problems) I'd not swap it into a vehicle. It is a bitch to work on and really not enough power for the weight.

If he is set on wanting a 3.0 which he sounds, and he has found that it is cheaper then the 4.3 or 3.4 for him, and he doesnt want a huge amount of power, then this might be the swap for him.

I am in the same situation, I could swap in a 4.3, but thats only 40 more hp then my V6...If im going through the trouble of putting in a motor Im going to put a lot more power with a V8.

This board is notorious for badmouthing the 3.0, mostly because most own 4 bangers and they say this to make themselves feel better since they have zero fucking power. I own a 3.0 and I have driven the 22RE. My dad sold his solid axle 22RE to buy a 3.0 after test driving it because he liked the extra power, which is my 4runner now.

I've driven a stock geared 4.10 22RE with 35" mud tires, and then I also have my 3.0 with 35's that i drive everyday with stock gears. There is a huge difference, yes, huge, especially on the highway. Some of you on this board should try it sometime instead of saying the 22RE is better.

Do I think its a powerhouse? Hell no, like I said 150 hp is not enough for any kind of my wheeling, but maybe its a good choice for this guy.

Thanks Hobsdaddy, that is some good input. He is not really a wheeler, so huge amounts of power are not really his thing. He just wants some more power for everyday driving. If we could get that from just some engine mods, then that would be great, but if swapping to the 3.0 V6 is more effective at that, then we might do that. My friend is really not set on anything at the moment. He just wants more power at not a very high expense.

Yeah my buddy has that 3.4 in his 85 Runner that IM4yotas was talking about. It wasn't an easy swap, but man that thing definitely has some power. We've even hauled my rig on a trailer behind it and it still did good

Originally posted by Hobsdaddy
Do I think its a powerhouse? Hell no, like I said 150 hp is not enough for any kind of my wheeling, but maybe its a good choice for this guy. Works fine for rockcrawling, like I said when you are at 206 to 1 a Briggs & Stration would work!!!:smokin:

Works fine for rockcrawling, like I said when you are at 206 to 1 a Briggs & Stration would work!!!

like I said not enough horespower for MY type of wheeling. Over here that marlin crawler shit doesnt work as well when theres mud on the rocks;)

Originally posted by ouibus
Thanks Hobsdaddy, that is some good input. He is not really a wheeler, so huge amounts of power are not really his thing. He just wants some more power for everyday driving. If we could get that from just some engine mods, then that would be great, but if swapping to the 3.0 V6 is more effective at that, then we might do that. My friend is really not set on anything at the moment. He just wants more power at not a very high expense.

If he just wants additional power mainly for the street...esp if he wants it at high rpm he should check out DOA racing engines or LC engineering. They have some packages getting impressive hp out of 22-re's. They ain't cheap, but it is bolt on.