: suzuki guy, just got a disco


yota_loyalist
06-16-2007, 03:54 PM
so i just perchased a 96 se7 with all the goodies, primo condition, dual sunroofs and ac front and rear, and a factory locker! but it shifts a little hard, is this normal, has 134ooo miles

tripm
06-16-2007, 04:07 PM
I've never heard of a factory locker. Maybe you're referring to the center diff?

Auto or standard?

I think you need to be a little more specific about where it's hard to shift. Is it when the gear changes noises happen (clunks), or the actual shifter is hard to move?

www.discoweb.org has a lot of info for new disco owners. Might want to check there first.

When you blow a shaft, lift it, then want to replace the axles, you can come back here and maybe someone can help you. ;-)

Mark

revor
06-16-2007, 04:14 PM
Mark!!!

You're so mean!!!!

But then your spelling and grammar are perfect so you are allowed.

yota_loyalist
06-16-2007, 04:26 PM
yea your right, it is a center diff lock..........damn it. but yea its an auto and it shifts hard . like jerky shifts. i will try that sight though

tripm
06-16-2007, 09:56 PM
Since revor didn't like my first reply, let me give you the same advice using the style and lexicon of Pirate.

First, dumbass, you didn't read the checkin.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=342141

If you had read the checkin, you'd realize your shitbox does not have a factory locker when you read your manual.

Next, using your post, someone would need fucking esp to figure out what your shifting question is, as you left out 90% of the detail.

Finally, let me give you some realistic advice about the oil pissing money pit you just bought. Although this is a hackneyed statement:

the day you bought that thing and the day you sell it will be your two favorite days.

Here's what's going to happen:

Since you bought it at a million miles, shit is going to break left and right. Even if some dbag who owned it before had some shit like 'one owner, dealer serviced' in the ad when he posted it for sale, it's still going to break. Even if the only off road it saw was when the asshole who owned it before you was when his wife backed it out of the garage and hit a rhododendron, it's going to break.

The idler for the serpentine belt is going to seize when the bearing heats up with no grease in it. If you're lucky, this will happen when you're driving into your driveway. I say lucky as when it goes, you no longer have power steering (probably doesn't work anyway, but I'll get to that later), and you also no longer have a working alternator. Oh, btw, the alternator is going to start squealing at some point, so you're going to have to replace that. Might as well get that while you're replacing the idler. OH! And grab a new belt while you're at it. Ok, back to the steering. The power steering pump is going to leak from every seal, pipe, cap, bolt, etc. Don't bother trying to fix it, just keep fluid with you and top it off when you get gas. You'll be doing that all the time since the pig gets like 12 mpg. Oh! and you're supposed to put hi octane in it, so be prepared to bend over once or twice a week when you fill it up. When you're ordering the parts above, might as well order the oil cooler pipes that pass by the radiator on the drivers side as they are going to rust through and piss oil everywhere on your way to work. Oh, another thing to add to the list. Replace all the wheel bearings unless you want them to suddenly fail on the highway and weld themselves to the spindle, while yanking the steering wheel out of your hand. It will be so sudden that you may think that you jerked the steering wheel while waking up after passing out while driving. It's great that you got the disco with two sunroofs since one or both is going to fail. Save up for some steel wheels because the alloy wheels on it are going to be useless after a few trips off road. Oh, more stuff to order - diff protectors since the paper ones that came with this beautiful truck are likely to piss like a scared little girl when the first stick pokes at them. Steering protection for the pencil thin tie rods. Oh! Almost forgot, the rattling you hear is the cats that have shit the bed. Order those. Oh! Might as well order some exhaust manifolds and gaskets since those are either cracked or about to crack. Do you have a dog? Do yourself a favor and order new hinges for the rear door. If not, it's going to break when you're on your way to get coffee at 5:30 in the morning while fido is in the way back. You'll hear a little squeak from the canine and look in your rear view mirror. For a second, you're brain is going to process what it's seeing. Yes, it's seeing your dog sitting in the back while the door is wide open, hanging on one hinge. BTW, the heavy duty hinges from Atlantic British are $150 bucks. I almost wrote 'probably worth it', but 150 bucks for fucking hinges! Are you kidding me! Since you're into the tune up and other crap up above for a couple k, might as well get the checkbook out for a few more things. Get a snorkle. It's like 400 of the best dollars you'll ever spend. (I'm kidding about that one, almost no one NEEDS a snorkle). Order the 100 dollar lift kit from ebay. You can put that on when you're fixing the hole in the diff because you decided to buy that snorkle instead of diff covers. Oh! back to your question. That hard shift is one of about 10 things. Get the checkbook out again and order a front driveshaft, that's probably gone, even if it's not the source of the hard shifting. Forgive me for forgetting what this piece is called, but there is some stupid flex disk somewhere in the rear driveshaft near the ujoints - that' s probably gone. Oh! Order u joints and put those on when you're under there putting the ebay 100 dollar lift in. Oh, one more thing for the checkbook while it's jacked up - order 4 new rotors and pads. Maybe you can make it a weekend and do the uj's, lift, wheel bearings, rotors, and pads. And steel wheels. OOh! You can spend an hour or so playing 'find the rust'. It's on the rear wheelwell inside the door, a lot hidden in the front fenders - not the fender part, the inner fenders. Doors probably have some rust too. Just get some por 15 in the color of your choice and spread it on. Don't forget to peel up the carpet as all that sound deadening material rover put on there to make you think the truck is 'quiet' actually trapped ever molecule of moisture that ever went in the truck since the day it came off the build line.

Just wanted you to know what you're in for. FWIW, I LOVED my disco, and unfortunately sold it to someone local so my kids have to tell me 'daddy, we saw your truck, someone else was driving it'.

And revor, fawk you!:flipoff2:

How's that for brutalizing spelling, grammar and a newbie, all at the same time.

Mark

revor
06-16-2007, 10:15 PM
That's better!

BigRedB2
06-16-2007, 10:38 PM
yeah, but whens he supposed to have time to replace the heads and gaskets when they go?

PTSchram
06-17-2007, 07:10 AM
Mark:
You forgot fan clutch, water pump, rear main seals, brake light bulbs taht take nearly an hour to get to...

Yes, some of us really do love these trucks.

PT

cptyarderho
06-17-2007, 09:48 AM
Since revor didn't like my first reply, let me give you the same advice using the style and lexicon of Pirate.

First, dumbass, you didn't read the checkin.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=342141

If you had read the checkin, you'd realize your shitbox does not have a factory locker when you read your manual.

Next, using your post, someone would need fucking esp to figure out what your shifting question is, as you left out 90% of the detail.

Finally, let me give you some realistic advice about the oil pissing money pit you just bought. Although this is a hackneyed statement:

the day you bought that thing and the day you sell it will be your two favorite days.

Here's what's going to happen:

Since you bought it at a million miles, shit is going to break left and right. Even if some dbag who owned it before had some shit like 'one owner, dealer serviced' in the ad when he posted it for sale, it's still going to break. Even if the only off road it saw was when the asshole who owned it before you was when his wife backed it out of the garage and hit a rhododendron, it's going to break.

The idler for the serpentine belt is going to seize when the bearing heats up with no grease in it. If you're lucky, this will happen when you're driving into your driveway. I say lucky as when it goes, you no longer have power steering (probably doesn't work anyway, but I'll get to that later), and you also no longer have a working alternator. Oh, btw, the alternator is going to start squealing at some point, so you're going to have to replace that. Might as well get that while you're replacing the idler. OH! And grab a new belt while you're at it. Ok, back to the steering. The power steering pump is going to leak from every seal, pipe, cap, bolt, etc. Don't bother trying to fix it, just keep fluid with you and top it off when you get gas. You'll be doing that all the time since the pig gets like 12 mpg. Oh! and you're supposed to put hi octane in it, so be prepared to bend over once or twice a week when you fill it up. When you're ordering the parts above, might as well order the oil cooler pipes that pass by the radiator on the drivers side as they are going to rust through and piss oil everywhere on your way to work. Oh, another thing to add to the list. Replace all the wheel bearings unless you want them to suddenly fail on the highway and weld themselves to the spindle, while yanking the steering wheel out of your hand. It will be so sudden that you may think that you jerked the steering wheel while waking up after passing out while driving. It's great that you got the disco with two sunroofs since one or both is going to fail. Save up for some steel wheels because the alloy wheels on it are going to be useless after a few trips off road. Oh, more stuff to order - diff protectors since the paper ones that came with this beautiful truck are likely to piss like a scared little girl when the first stick pokes at them. Steering protection for the pencil thin tie rods. Oh! Almost forgot, the rattling you hear is the cats that have shit the bed. Order those. Oh! Might as well order some exhaust manifolds and gaskets since those are either cracked or about to crack. Do you have a dog? Do yourself a favor and order new hinges for the rear door. If not, it's going to break when you're on your way to get coffee at 5:30 in the morning while fido is in the way back. You'll hear a little squeak from the canine and look in your rear view mirror. For a second, you're brain is going to process what it's seeing. Yes, it's seeing your dog sitting in the back while the door is wide open, hanging on one hinge. BTW, the heavy duty hinges from Atlantic British are $150 bucks. I almost wrote 'probably worth it', but 150 bucks for fucking hinges! Are you kidding me! Since you're into the tune up and other crap up above for a couple k, might as well get the checkbook out for a few more things. Get a snorkle. It's like 400 of the best dollars you'll ever spend. (I'm kidding about that one, almost no one NEEDS a snorkle). Order the 100 dollar lift kit from ebay. You can put that on when you're fixing the hole in the diff because you decided to buy that snorkle instead of diff covers. Oh! back to your question. That hard shift is one of about 10 things. Get the checkbook out again and order a front driveshaft, that's probably gone, even if it's not the source of the hard shifting. Forgive me for forgetting what this piece is called, but there is some stupid flex disk somewhere in the rear driveshaft near the ujoints - that' s probably gone. Oh! Order u joints and put those on when you're under there putting the ebay 100 dollar lift in. Oh, one more thing for the checkbook while it's jacked up - order 4 new rotors and pads. Maybe you can make it a weekend and do the uj's, lift, wheel bearings, rotors, and pads. And steel wheels. OOh! You can spend an hour or so playing 'find the rust'. It's on the rear wheelwell inside the door, a lot hidden in the front fenders - not the fender part, the inner fenders. Doors probably have some rust too. Just get some por 15 in the color of your choice and spread it on. Don't forget to peel up the carpet as all that sound deadening material rover put on there to make you think the truck is 'quiet' actually trapped ever molecule of moisture that ever went in the truck since the day it came off the build line.

Just wanted you to know what you're in for. FWIW, I LOVED my disco, and unfortunately sold it to someone local so my kids have to tell me 'daddy, we saw your truck, someone else was driving it'.

And revor, fawk you!:flipoff2:

How's that for brutalizing spelling, grammar and a newbie, all at the same time.

Mark

We have a Pulitzer caliber specimen here. I feel like I have just witnessed a Pink Floyd reunion or something.

You sir, rock.

JSBriggs
06-17-2007, 01:50 PM
Since revor didn't like my first reply...

[DieLucas diatribe]...[/DieLucas diatribe]

How's that for brutalizing spelling, grammar and a newbie, all at the same time.

Mark

Are you related DielLucas?

-Jeff

Discosaurus
06-17-2007, 05:37 PM
Best Post Ever award...and mostly true !

Oh, did he mention you should never try to actually disassemble a nut and bolt on your new love ? Just go ahead and hit them with a huge lump hammer and break them off - that's what's going to happen anyway, it'll save you some time, knuckles and cuss-words.

Drillbit
06-17-2007, 10:46 PM
Top shelf tripm, should we ever end up the same place drinks are on me

yota_loyalist
06-20-2007, 06:46 PM
:mr-t::homer:you look and see that i have been a member since dec 05 but have only like 6 maybee 7 posts, this is why......i wonder if some times all people have time for is bashing online, do you poeple ever actually go out and wheel? thank you though for the info on the disco, i did get the thing for only 3 grand and it is in way good condition(never been able to drive over 50 miles an hour with out any noises or vibrations, never been able to drive over 75.....at all),and i am realy realy realy sick of people freakin out about mileadge beeing " so high!" when it hits 75,001 on the odometer :shaking: the thing only has 134000 miles. it does leak like a siv every where you said though, i did expect that though considering it is a landrover. anyways all in all thanks for the info. this thing wheels like a beast and its still stock with the sway bars conected! i love it, perfect tow rig for my sami! ;:flipoff2:

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/saralovesfood/PIRATEPIC4.jpg
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/saralovesfood/PIRATEPIC3.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/saralovesfood/PIRATEPIC2.jpg

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e145/saralovesfood/piratepic1.jpg

revor
06-20-2007, 08:47 PM
You're not taking any of this personally are you?

You shouldn't

DougW
06-20-2007, 10:38 PM
This thread is worthless without pix of the Sammy.

yota_loyalist
06-20-2007, 11:58 PM
You're not taking any of this personally are you?

You shouldn't

This thread is worthless without pix of the Sammy.

your both very right

tripm
06-21-2007, 05:22 AM
Yota man, you're going to force me to reply.....

My point was that even though the truck is in good shape, it's going to experience many of the issues above. Print out my list and take 5 minutes to inspect those area's of your truck because it's not if, it's when.

Two more things.

1. Get out the sawzall. Judging from the pictures you included, you're going to want to cut the bottom plastic from the front bumper.

2. Do something to protect your diff covers before you hit that trail again.

Narzuhl
06-21-2007, 06:44 AM
That and '96 get ready to do the heads soon...First year of the 4.0L and the worst year for that engine.
When i was looking for a Disco every '96 i looked at had to have the heads done or would soon.
So i bought a Series III
I would say that 134K is not bad, but it is a '96.....Have fun with it and get the diff covers, you will want these over anything, and they are cheap.

yota_loyalist
06-22-2007, 12:33 PM
cool, thanks guys, i will, oh and here is a link to my sammi build just in case u guys were curious.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=591313

Mercedesrover
06-22-2007, 12:44 PM
"so heres the PLAN...
88(pre 88.5) sammi.
1.3 fuelinjected zuk motor out of a 92 sammi (with header, cold air, and two inch exhaust!)possibly puttin in a cam and higher compresion.
sidekick tranny and t-case mated to a sammi case.
yj springs, wheel base stretched to maybee 94 or 96 in.
4wheel drive toyota minny truck ifs powersteering, and hopefally maybee hydraulic assist. with six shooter knuckles.
yota axles with 27 spline long fields,...... welded front and rear
pics to come, need to wait for my little brotheres girlfreind to help me post them."

A wish-list isn't a build. That's just mental masturbation.

But don't worry about that Zuki. Every free penny will be spent trying to keep that Disco on the road.

yota_loyalist
06-22-2007, 10:28 PM
the build thread has yet to be continued.
its not a wish list anyways, its a i have this and have yet to put it together list.

ps-i hate the east coast