Is it ok to link to other forums from here?

Theres a conversation on another board about some frame issues on 2000 DII's It concerns me a bit since I have 2000 with what maybe a problem starting in the same area.


**I thought I'd ask first some boards get all bitchy about linking other sites**



I'd like to get any input on this you've had a problem or heard of this.

In short, a couple guys have had the frame rail rot out near the
cat. converter on a 2000 DII.

Chassis rust on a 7 year old vehicle?

That's your "potentially serious problem"?

Chassis rot on a Land Rover? Never heard of such a thing.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=342141
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What exactly is your question? Do you want to know how to crawl under your vehicle and check for rust?

Ah Oh!......

Here it comes

Chassis rust on a 7 year old vehicle?

That's your "potentially serious problem"?

Maybe your used to driving junk?? I'm not talking about normal surface rust here. -but yes thats my problem, when there are people having rot holes in the frame on a 7 year old truck. I've owned a lot of ladder frame style vehilces and I've never had any with rot holes in the frame- especially not one 7 years old that cost $45k new. I have a 1976 CJ5 with boxed frame and no rot holes there.


You guys are little more on smarta** side than I would have thought. I'm not wondering how to crawl under the truck :flipoff2:

I asked if anyone had heard of this problem on DII's? And if so, that I'd like your input.

You guys crack me up- you act like when people ask questions like this it just wastes so much of your precious time.....don't f'n reply if its such a dumb question and a waste of your time. Your witty a**hole comments are sort of like that really dumb kid in school who liked to pick on people because with his fagile ego and small prick he had nothing to offer other being a jerk.

Lts see. I don't wanna waste your time ...

Answer = Yes.

Alternate answer = Google

Final answer :flipoff2:

I'm just going to post the recall notice I got from Land Rover regarding this exact problem. I sold mine so *thankfully* I don't have to worry over this. I drive a 65 IIa and for some reason the holes in THOSE frames didn't concern Land Rover enough to put out a recall. Anyway.....here's the notice FWIW.

Make : LAND ROVER Model : DISCOVERY II Year : 2000
Manufacturer : LAND ROVER NORTH AMERICA, INC.
NHTSA CAMPAIGN ID Number : 00FU2001 Mfr's Report Date : OCT 13, 2000
Component: FRAME
Potential Number Of Units Affected : 36911
Summary:

Reports of rust on some frames of this model were reported to the NHTSA. While normal on 100% of all other manufacturers vehicles, rust on a Land Rover frame has never been reported, making this a serious concern. If you are an owner of one of these vehicles, it's important that you immediately drive to a Land Rover dealer for a FIST CHECK. FISTING is the only reliable way to tell if your holes are large enough for a frame replacement. Your vehicle will be put on a lift while a technician puts his fist in your holes. If his fist fits in your hole, your frame will be replaced.

Check the warranty on a DII, corrosion rust through might be covered. I know at one point the dealer warranties a frame for rust through (not a DII but no I am not kidding), but I forget how long the corrosion warranty lasts.

I have a 2000 DII and I've been involved on this board and "others" since I bought it in 2000. Only issues regarding the frame I've ever heard of were for cracks around some of the body mounts, and this was on a rig in Aussie used on alot of wash-board roads.

Never heard of the rust issue next to the cats.

There, wasn't that nice?:grinpimp:

Ok, force me to reply nice.

I'm not sure how different they are, but frame on my 97 D1 didn't even have surface rust on it and it was used in Maine and NH its entire life. A 2000 with holes is surprising.

All these nice posts. Just when I get nasty everyone else gets nice.

<<Your witty a**hole comments are sort of like that really dumb kid in school who liked to pick on people because with his fagile ego and small prick he had nothing to offer other being a jerk.>>

Most of the time if you read through those threads, even if there is some exceptionally well written pointed prose, you'll find your answer.

"All these nice posts. Just when I get nasty everyone else gets nice."

Disappointing... The Energy is gone...

stb616... You mean to tell me you really didn't expect to be tormented coming here and asking this question?

In reality you have gotten off easy so far.. Plus you really need to work on your spelling..

The fisting test, nice... :rainbow:

I just crawled out from under a '99 DII. In spite of it having been a Detroit truck, there was no evidence whatsoever of rust around the cats.

If a truck from Michigan with 110K miles on it isn't rusted there, I can't imagine what it would take to rust the frame, much less rust it through.

Find something else about your truck to worry about, like, oh, maybe the ABS :flipoff2:

I guess "fisting" has other uses as well...

"2000 with holes is surprising."

Check behind the transmission crossmember (by removing it) of any rover used in a rusty area and you will be scared.

Check behind the transmission crossmember (by removing it) of any rover used in a rusty area and you will be scared.

By removing it? Don't you mean removing it by braking every stinking bolt?:flipoff2:

Maybe your used to driving junk?? I'm not talking about normal surface rust here. -but yes thats my problem, when there are people having rot holes in the frame on a 7 year old truck. I've owned a lot of ladder frame style vehilces and I've never had any with rot holes in the frame- especially not one 7 years old that cost $45k new. I have a 1976 CJ5 with boxed frame and no rot holes there.


You guys are little more on smarta** side than I would have thought. I'm not wondering how to crawl under the truck :flipoff2:

I asked if anyone had heard of this problem on DII's? And if so, that I'd like your input.

You guys crack me up- you act like when people ask questions like this it just wastes so much of your precious time.....don't f'n reply if its such a dumb question and a waste of your time. Your witty a**hole comments are sort of like that really dumb kid in school who liked to pick on people because with his fagile ego and small prick he had nothing to offer other being a jerk.

My landrover product is 22 years old, the chassis is almost identical to a D2, just a few brackets are different.
Mine has no rust anywhere, the removable cross member is currently "removed" showing the mud packed behind.

Even the rusted out parts truck I bought a few years ago had reached it's 19th year, it was used on salted UK roads then for years offroad in a coastal rust hole.
The chassis on that was completely rust free, the steel body parts were completely shot.

So no I don't drive junk, I know what rust looks like and checking for it is pretty bloody simple.

Dumbarse.:flipoff2:

My '92 RRC which lives next to the ocean has an otherwise perfect frame, but when I pulled the V8 for the Tdi swap I found a rust hole behind the transmission crossmember and one right next to the passenger side cat. Made sense to me though as the cat was only a couple inches from the frame as I recall and so would have burnt the paint off the first day.
It was amazing to see how concentrated the rust was. Both inside and outside the frame, the paint was perfect within a 1/2" of where the frame had rusted completely through.

PITA? Yes. Serious problem? Probably not so much. You can always pull the frame off, patch it, and then have it galvanized.

Is it ok to... blah blah blah... 2000 DII.

Man, did you get off light on this one.:shaking:
This is not the forum for your question.

Try www.muddyoval.com
ask Steve to sell you some re-frame-olator. Very custom stuff, better than Grey Poupon.

i was wondering if you can replace the air bags on a range rover with a set of fox air shocks

I have a 2000 DII and I've been involved on this board and "others" since I bought it in 2000. Only issues regarding the frame I've ever heard of were for cracks around some of the body mounts, and this was on a rig in Aussie used on alot of wash-board roads.

Never heard of the rust issue next to the cats.

There, wasn't that nice?:grinpimp:


I'd be that Aussie or one of them anyway with cracked chassis rail:mad3:

Overloading and corrigated roads (washboard) aren't good for any vehicle, there has also been reports of cracking around the engine mounts too, which i have had repaired as well.

Never heard of them rusting though:shaking:

Baz.