I have a 77 Scout II that is stock right now and I have a dana 60 rear and a dana 44 hd front and I have been told that 3in wide ford f-150 springs are good for the front and 63in chevy springs for the rear is that the way to go or is there some better springs for my rig

?Best Way to Lift Scout II



http://www.justih.org/photopost/data/500/scout.jpg

Needs more articulation :flipoff2:

I usually use a floor jack, preferably blue. I was going to paint it camo, but then I might lose it. I don't know who you think we are, but I know I don't have a forklift in the corner :confused:

You could try http://www.hi-lift.com/

You could read the "faq".

Mr. Scout makes some lift springs

I'll bet Damian has some coil-overs :D

You know I do man. Let's Git-R-Dun!

77ihwheeler, Do you have any plans or are you just wingin' it?

As for me, I used a forklift to lift my scout ~ but like an idiot I only got one tire off the ground ~ must have parked the others on some of that Gorrilla glue.
http://www.dandcextreme.com/upload/rusty508.jpg

I was just asking you guys for a little help with what springs to use to get the most amount of flex not useing jacks or forklifts but if you guys dont want to be helpful and just be ass holes that is fine :flipoff2:

The_most_baller_kick_ass_and_sweet_scout_lifts_tha t_bolt_on_in_an_afternoon.com (http://google.com)

I was just asking you guys for a little help with what springs to use to get the most amount of flex not useing jacks or forklifts but if you guys dont want to be helpful and just be ass holes that is fine :flipoff2:
Don't get your panties in a wad man, you were extremely vauge on your purpose for lifting it, what you wanted to do with it or what tires you wanted to run. Is it the answers you got so unfair given the information you gave?

I was just asking you guys for a little help with what springs to use to get the most amount of flex not useing jacks or forklifts but if you guys dont want to be helpful and just be ass holes that is fine :flipoff2:

Assholes is one word, no such word as useing, and it's don't, not dont

Are you wanting 4" lift spring and 33" tires? That would be easy.

ok so i need it to be a good daily driver for in town use and a weekend wheeler i would like to be running 37s to 39.5s about and i dont care if the springs are bolt on or if i have to make and weld new perches on
and i know i am not the best speller but you got the point right

I was just asking you guys for a little help with what springs to use to get the most amount of flex not useing jacks or forklifts but if you guys dont want to be helpful and just be ass holes that is fine :flipoff2:


I was helping :shaking:

ok so i need it to be a good daily driver for in town use and a weekend wheeler i would like to be running 37s to 39.5s about and i dont care if the springs are bolt on or if i have to make and weld new perches on
and i know i am not the best speller but you got the point right

This has been asked a hundred times. Search here and over at the BB.

Why do people think they have to have a DD on 39s?

I used F150 springs front and rear. Worked pretty well. I had to add a leaf to the frt pack because of engine wt. At the rear I used the original spring mounts at the frt and welded new spring eyes at the back. Pretty easy.

The front is a whole diff ball game. be prepared to modify the axel, hysteer, maybe even a cut and turn. It was pretty tricky.

I can send pics if ya need em.

good luck.

pics would be great thanks for your help and the f-150 springs you used are they the 3 inch wide ones or some other springs
you guys might call me stupid but what is BB and DD?

BB= www.binderbulletin.org
DD= Daily driver

thanks for clearing that up for me

i want to run 39s on my DD cause i cant afford to have 2 riggs and in my opinion 37s to 39s is a good medium

You're gonna have to do a bunch of work to use 38"s on a DD. Run some 35"s on the stock axles, then start saving for axles, steering, new gears, etc.

You could just run the Dana 44 axles, get a 4" lift, regear to 4.10-4.56 gears, and some trimming with a sawsall and be good to go for a year or two.

Go to the BB and cruise through the vender section. Get springs, shocks, and extended brake lines.

You seem to be jumping into this too fast. This ain't no Chevy :flipoff2:

i dont have the money to do all that plus i have the axles sitting in my yard for now i am prolly just going to run the stock springs and the 3/4 chevys with 33s cause that is what i have but when i can get the parts together i am going to go bigger

Go to autozone and buy some 3" lift blocks. You should be able to bolt them on in an afternoon front and rear and cause a 3" change in ride height.

Go to autozone and buy some 3" lift blocks. You should be able to bolt them on in an afternoon front and rear and cause a 3" change in ride height.

Lift blocks are the shit! Im shocked that no one mentioned that already

damn lift blocks on a international would make 3 inches of drop haha his DD would be a slammed binder

damn lift blocks on a international would make 3 inches of drop haha his DD would be a slammed binder

Hey you haven't earned your flaming merit badge yet.:shaking:

Why do people think they have to have a DD on 39s?
Why not? My last wheeling rig had 42s, I figure a few inches below that should be good for street.
i want to run 39s on my DD cause i cant afford to have 2 riggs and in my opinion 37s to 39s is a good medium
Here's my old DD w/ 37s on 15x7 rims and full width axles. http://www.dandcextreme.com/upload/terra9.jpg

I haven't seen that one before, Damian- I like the look. Got more pics?









Tech: Use a HiLift.
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/4800/liftedgb2.th.jpg (http://img179.imageshack.us/my.php?image=liftedgb2.jpg)

i know about blocks but from what i have heard and read about blocks are not good things

i dont have the money to do all that plus i have the axles sitting in my yard for now i am prolly just going to run the stock springs and the 3/4 chevys with 33s cause that is what i have but when i can get the parts together i am going to go bigger

Read back through the responses, you've gotten some decent answers between the :spam:. You say you have some Chevy axles to use. If you look at the Scout, your springs are under the axles. If you look at the Chevy, your spring perches are over the axles. Visualize- when you bolt the Chevy axles on, they'll automatically give you 6-7 inches of lift. 'Course that brings in more minor issues, but nothing too hard. Go to binderbulletin.org and search for 'SOA' and 'Spring over', and read to your heart's content. With that much lift and a little sawzall action you'll easily clear 37's.

I haven't seen that one before, Damian- I like the look. Got more pics?
Build thread = http://www.binderbulletin.org/forums/showthread.php?t=35797

Why not? My last wheeling rig had 42s, I figure a few inches below that should be good for street.

Here's my old DD w/ 37s on 15x7 rims and full width axles. http://www.dandcextreme.com/upload/terra9.jpg

Why not? If you at that level of wheeling you shouldn't count on using your wheeling rig for daily commuting duty.

Or maybe you are just at that level of mall crawling :laughing:

Well I missed tuesday but here is something that may actually help. I swapped in a 12-bolt and dana 44 out of a 76 K5 into my skout the first time. I did it outside in my driveway between 11pm and 4am so that it was cool enough to stay conscience this past summer in south east kansas while working 12-6 during the day. It was my first off-road project so I "newbed some stuff up".

http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=483596

thats cool and thanks for the info but i was asking what springs to use

Or maybe you are just at that level of mall crawling :laughing:
Yeah baby!

i daily drive my 38's

thats cool and thanks for the info but i was asking what springs to use

Chevy 1/2 tons would work well in the rear, I don't know how much lift you would get, might be too much. Go measure.

You may just have to buck up and get some new 4" lift springs for the front but I think you may have issues with wrap, maybe someone else can comment.

check out this guys scout, really nice machine and he used chevy truck rears.

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2079494

thats cool and thanks for the info but i was asking what springs to use


use the springs that are on your scout.

here are the steps.

jack up and secure vehicle under frame
loosen ubolts brom axle
remove front spring bolts
disconnect drive line
disconnect brake lines
remove axle
replace front spring bolts
roll new axle under and attach to springs
repeat at rear.


you now have a lifted scout, if you want to drive it you will of course need to reconnect drive lines and get some longer brake lines etc., but if you just want to look at it or take pictures to put on here you are basicly finished.:D

if you want correct steering you will need to cut and turn the front knuckles to put the caster back into them

When I bought my Scout II, it had already been SOA'd. Drove fine except the pumkin wasn't ground to clear the u-bolt. Every bump made it turn hard right :laughing:. It did have a severe front u-joint angle :shaking:. Put it back SUA, I used a 3lb mallet to hit each front perch ONCE to remove them :homer:

if you want correct steering you will need to cut and turn the front knuckles to put the caster back into them


he has a chevy front

i know how to put springs and axles in but thanks for the pointers

i went and look at that link and i think the springs he used on the rear are the ones i am planing on useing