Last week i droped my jeep off at Expert Off Road for them start work on stretching my jeep and getting my new axles underneith to run 42's.
The list of parts is
Rear: 9 inch with 35 spline shafts and a detroit, 543's
Front: 60 with 35 spline in and out and a detroit 538's
PSC hydro assist steering
Stak 2 speed with 5:1
Stretched the rear with stock XJ springs
Custom rear bumper built by EOR
all said and done its sitting at about 105 106 inch wheel base
http://homepage.mac.com/darketernal/.Pictures/wheelin/_DSC0008.jpg
i bought the tires from steven truck that now on 47s.
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a65/Faerus2/Lots101b.jpg
Stak 2 speed with 5:1
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a65/Faerus2/Lots094.jpg
done for now
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those basically flat leafs don't bug you?

How's the bumpsteer?

the flat leafs dont bother me
i havent been able to wheel kus i need a tourq arm still and still need to put the hydro ram on the steering so ill let yall know how it works out
and still need a front drive shaft
it drives and steers great even with out the ram
i got death wobble but im hoping the ram will take care of that

Nice rig. A set of tube fenders would be sweet on there...

Your not going to like those XJ springs without a traction bar, they are way to soft and with there length you will S wrap them in no time.

Your not going to like those XJ springs without a traction bar, they are way to soft and with there length you will S wrap them in no time.

It will be worse than curved packs. It will be no time before he snaps a U Joint. :mr-t:

Your not going to like those XJ springs without a traction bar, they are way to soft and with there length you will S wrap them in no time.

yea i know
i am getting one before i go wheelen
the jeep is not 100% done the hydro ram still needs to go on and i need a front drive shaft still

i can feel the axle wrap from just taking off at the stop lights

Last week i droped my jeep off at Expert Off Road for them start work on stretching my jeep and getting my new axles underneith

Is there a recent "Look at the shait i bought and had somebody else put on" trend or is it just me

Is there a recent "Look at the shait i bought and had somebody else put on" trend or is it just me

yes

I think his point is this thread is show and tell not tech

Your not going to like those XJ springs without a traction bar, they are way to soft and with there length you will S wrap them in no time.

X3. Those leaves are going to turn into S's the first time you let the clutch out. The traction bar should be the 1st thing on your list.

The next thing is to do your own work. There's nothing worse than a guy breaking something on the trail and not having the ability to fix it himself.

X3. Those leaves are going to turn into S's the first time you let the clutch out. The traction bar should be the 1st thing on your list.

The next thing is to do your own work. There's nothing worse than a guy breaking something on the trail and not having the ability to fix it himself.

yea it is
the one thing i cant do is weld and also have all the tools to set gears
the orignal re long arm was put on by me and i also rebuilt my own engine when i blew a cam so its not like i dont know what im doing around my jeep
its just i came across enough money to be able to pay to have someone else make and weld the new stuff on.

but they forgot a whole bunch of stuff. Just because you can fab doesn't mean you should.

2 things: you better truss that 9", and why would anyone want to put leaf springs on a tj?

People who put XJ leafs on TJ's are stupid!!! :flipoff2:

some ppl perfer leafs in the rear
ill see how it works out

This thread is 100% worthless

Word!

2 things: you better truss that 9", and why would anyone want to put leaf springs on a tj?

Two things, you don't know what the hell you are talking about, and leaf springs for stability. Not like it is the first time it has ever been done before.

Is it me or does that drag link look totally out of whack??? Looks like there is a 2" spacer ontop.
Also, what is the deal with the track bar. Dude, you are local and I know this shop but if they did your steering and track bar that way, you need to bring it over to my house and pay me to fix this shit.

anyone else see a problem with this??

anyone else see a problem with this??

Yes. And adding a steering ram to fix the bumpsteer...... BOOTY!

Paul

Why does everybody here have to be such an ASS to everyone about this shit. The guy has a nice Jeep give him a break. He's not done, and as everyone knows none of us are ever really done with our rigs anyway. Maybe he should have done things different maybe not. Who cares, if you like it and it gives you an idea to copy great! If not... shut the fuck up! I thought the purpose of this whole thing was to learn from each other and share ideas. I didn't know you have to be a super hero to post here.

ok, I see there is a TRE now but still.

Why does everybody here have to be such an ASS to everyone about this shit. The guy has a nice Jeep give him a break. He's not done, and as everyone knows none of us are ever really done with our rigs anyway. Maybe he should have done things different maybe not. Who cares, if you like it and it gives you an idea to copy great! If not... shut the fuck up! I thought the purpose of this whole thing was to learn from each other and share ideas. I didn't know you have to be a super hero to post here.

because if he paid someone to do this, it should be done right. It normally, doesnt cost anymore to do it right the first time.

because if he paid someone to do this, it should be done right. It normally, doesnt cost anymore to do it right the first time.

AND...if he paid someone else to do it, said someone else should be the one posting the tech on this. By the way, where's the tech? All i see are a bunch of the same parts i see in just about every 4x4 catalog :shaking:.
This belongs in the "show and tell" forum :flipoff2:

*Not hatin'. Its going to be a fun ride when finished:smokin:

ok, I see there is a TRE now but still.

could u please explan. on whats wrong with .. thanks

People who put XJ leafs on TJ's are stupid!!! :flipoff2:

that's what I heard

could u please explan. on whats wrong with .. thanks

at first I thought you had a heim with a spacer, but looking closer I saw you used a TRE. Nothing wrong with using TRE's but your draglink angle is fawked up. Are you using a dropped pitman arm still? If so, throw it in the trash and get a stock one or a waggy arm thats flat. On the tracbar, it looks like its sitting directly ontop of the axle housing.

Hey, i post my shit up here and look for good constructive criticism, you posted your shit up here and here's the criticism. Like the other guy said, not hatin', but if you paid for this, they need to fix it!!

is that the factory coil bucket hanging still in the last pic? also, as was mentioned before, fix that draglink.

Two things, you don't know what the hell you are talking about, and leaf springs for stability. Not like it is the first time it has ever been done before.
first, those tubes will snap off of the center section at the weld, ive done it, and second, there are better ways to insure stability than dumping coils for leafs, its a step backwards and people do it because its cheaper and easier instead of mounting all the brackets required to run the coils. but since youre the expert keep on with the bs.........

first, those tubes will snap off of the center section at the weld, ive done it, and second, there are better ways to insure stability than dumping coils for leafs, its a step backwards and people do it because its cheaper and easier instead of mounting all the brackets required to run the coils. but since youre the expert keep on with the bs.........

Maybe you should look at Dookey's thread and eat a little crow. Do you have said picks of 9" carnage was it because you were jumping it off a cliff :flipoff2:

Nasvik bump steer is not the same as death wobble :shaking:

The drag link is that way because he is not sporting 10" of lift and because he is using a highsteer arm on top of a D60 knuckle, I would hazard to guess the pitman arm IS flat. Looks like he could use a new trac bar but the current one looks to be the same angle and length of the drag link.

That coil bucket in the rear would be a good location to add a bump stop, I have seen others in that area and not directly above the axle.

You guys must be all having a bad PMS day or something is in the water because I don't see anyone bitching in dookey's post about leaf springs or maybe it is because you are all mesmerized by his bling bling :flipoff2:

Nasvik bump steer is not the same as death wobble :shaking:


Yeah yeah... typed/read too fast. :flipoff2: It's still a BOOTY steering setup.

Paul

i did the leafs mainly kus it was cheap and that is still the drop pitman from my re kit when i was runnen the 30, i need to to do a stock one. And most of this stuff is made by the shop. The bumper was custom kus i ordered a btf bumper but it took em like 6 months to make one and i got tired of waiting. The steering has chevy 1 ton tre ends on it.
most of that stuff is missing is not done kus my buddy who was working on it left on vacation for 2 weeks so im not worried, it will get done.

and i do appreciate yall taken the time to give it a once over and let me know what yall think

Mine's not perfect, but it's similar to what you're going to end up with. I used a Waggy or CJ (can't remember) re-tapered to accept the Chevy TREs:

http://www.jeepshots.com/shots/projects/steering/p1000424.jpg

Here's how it looks from the front:

http://www.jeepshots.com/shots/projects/steering/p1000422.jpg

Drag link and trackbar are nearly parallel and I have no bumpsteer or death wobble - with the ram attached or not.

Paul

Well here is some insight into whats going on.

1) The drag link angle is temporary - a stock pitman arm is going to be put on but we didnt have one and it needed to be out of the shop for the 2 weeks im gone.

2) Ram wont be a fix for the death wobble - my guess is it was never aligned, I know I didnt get to it before I left. A ram is a band-aid - not a fix. You find whats causing it and fix it - which we will do. I never even got to test drive it before I left.

3) Torque arm will be put on and was always a part of the build, just not a part that got done before I left. This way hes not vehicle-less for 2 weeks.

4) Tube fenders are also part of the future plan - as well as raising them up into the hood for even more room. Reason the front trac bar is so ugly is its his old one chopped and welded as a temp fix. He is moving the whole front axle forward soon as well. Why pay for a shop to build 2 custom trac bars when you can have them quickly modify what you have now for free and then build only one when you need it soon?

Yeah yeah... typed/read too fast. :flipoff2: It's still a BOOTY steering setup.

Paul

I've seen your booty fab, though I give you credit at the end it always looks nice and finished :D

don't expect a ram to "fix" your bumpsteer. "Fix" it right, then add the ram for assist, like the name implies.

Well here is some insight into whats going on.

2) Ram wont be a fix for the death wobble -

don't expect a ram to "fix" your bumpsteer. "Fix" it right, then add the ram for assist, like the name implies.

Maybe you didn't catch it, quoted for the reading impaired :flipoff2:

first, those tubes will snap off of the center section at the weld, ive done it, and second, there are better ways to insure stability than dumping coils for leafs, its a step backwards and people do it because its cheaper and easier instead of mounting all the brackets required to run the coils. but since youre the expert keep on with the bs.........

lmao, well said... :cookie:

Torque arm will be put on and was always a part of the build, just not a part that got done before I left. This way hes not vehicle-less for 2 weeks.

If he was thinking about taking that thing down the interstate you ought to put it right back in the shop. I thought death wobble was bad with 33's...:eek:

Is it just me or was this a thread about "one DONE tj" with half a dozen posts about how it's ok because it isn't done yet?

Is it just me or was this a thread about "one DONE tj" with half a dozen posts about how it's ok because it isn't done yet?

yea see my friend posted this up on here under my name and he spelled it wrong. It is suposed to be one ton tj.

also drives fine once u hit 50 and the death wobble stops.

Must be pretty mild death wobble if you can drive out of it because I wouldn't even attempt to speed up once death wobble started.

yea see my friend posted this up on here under my name and he spelled it wrong. It is suposed to be one ton tj.

also drives fine once u hit 50 and the death wobble stops.

it was only a matter of time before the "my friend came on here and posted under my username" excuse came out.

And DarkEternal, you had time to chop, sleeve (giving you the benefit of the doubt here), and weld a panhard bar but not enough time to make some brackets and weld some tube for a traction bar? :confused:

well no it is true kus i can spell for most part
and i had ordered some spring perches for the rear from re but they didnt get to the shop tell a few days before he was leaving. He had most the front end done, minus the high steer arm from btf which took forever to get there, well before the spring perches got there.

Must be pretty mild death wobble if you can drive out of it because I wouldn't even attempt to speed up once death wobble started.

yea it isnt that bad
it shakes a little then it goes away at 45 to 50ish.

Yeah, chopping, drilling on a press, sleeving and welding takes me about 15 minutes, Measuring, bending, welding in joint ends, building brackets, welding in dimple died plates and etc... - the way I make trac bars takes me a good half day. So in other words, yes - I did have the time for that and not the time for the traction bar. Not to mention ever try and drive a RE longarm with no panhard? Dont work. It will however drive without a traction bar. Its called priorities!

Once I finish my own vehicle and we get his wrapped up we will head up to clayton and all the nay-sayers can come run some trails with us - thats what this is all about anyways right!

And DarkEternal, you had time to chop, sleeve (giving you the benefit of the doubt here), and weld a panhard bar but not enough time to make some brackets and weld some tube for a traction bar? :confused:

Maybe a traction bar wasn't in the plans, not everybody who runs SOA runs a traction bar. Though after installing a stock set of XJ springs even with a 2" AAL I would definitely recommend one.

kus i can spell ........ didnt get to the shop tell a few days...... He had most (of) the front end done

uhhh huhhhh:flipoff2:

just bustin your chops a little.... looks like you'll be wheelin before me with a more capable rig .... be it booty or otherwise

just bustin your chops a little.... looks like you'll be wheelin before me with a more capable rig .... be it booty or otherwise

ahhahaha
no its true i do spell better than my buddy
i can spell ton not done that was an error he posted this in the noob section too only under one ton tj.
altough i can spell better than my buddy. BUT bot not by to much better.