My little shop update

[ScottFJ40 V2.0]

Got the slab poured, and actually put some vehicles in it today.
I still need to wire it,plumb it for compressed air, and put my 2 poster inside. I'm excited though!

http://scottkarg.com/garagefloor/

http://scottkarg.com/garagefloor/slides/P6270230.JPG

[nissancrawler]

what's the lean-to part for? car trailer? My 450 sq ft garage is way too small, wish I had a bigger one like that.

[rockmup]

Scott, How much a yard for the cement and what did it cost per sqft to have it polished ?

Looks great

[JeffHPK5]

Very nice looking shop, is the over hang for firewood.. tractor implements?

I was planning on doing a search on "shop pics" and dammed if you don't have almost exactly what I'm looking for!


What's the LxWxH ? ... Estimated cost to date?


Thanks

[KYOTA]

looks good Scott, I like the roll ups on both sides. one of these days... :dreamingofmyownshop: :D

[4x4extreme]

Looks good man:smokin:

[ScottFJ40 V2.0]

what's the lean-to part for? car trailer? My 450 sq ft garage is way too small, wish I had a bigger one like that.
The leanto is for tractor/atv/what have you storage.
Scott, How much a yard for the cement and what did it cost per sqft to have it polished ?

Looks great
I am not sure of the breakdown, but for grading(1 side was 18" off grade) 6" of concrete, mesh and fiber, polished, sealed and cut I am into the slab for $7K
Very nice looking shop, is the over hang for firewood.. tractor implements?

I was planning on doing a search on "shop pics" and dammed if you don't have almost exactly what I'm looking for!


What's the LxWxH ? ... Estimated cost to date?


ThanksThe building is 30'x30'x12', the lean to is another 8' out. I figure I can use it for tractor/atv/storage, and it would be stupid simple to enclose it for an office or whatever. I also have plenty of room to go out back in a few years, maybe extend it another 20' when I run out of room.

I'm into the building with slab for about $23K right now, still have to wire it and put my lift in though.
I am also black topping the area underneath the leanto, and the area outside of it, and in front of the building.

[daywalker03]

*looks for the "drool" emote* Man, I wish I had a shop like that. The one I have access to is way too small for what I need to use it for.

[ScottFJ40 V2.0]

I don't think they are ever big enough, according to everyone I've ever talked to.:laughing:

[daywalker03]

I think when I get a chance, I'm going to build a bigger one behind the existing one. Of course, that's a project for next year.

[ironpig70]

I'm into the building with slab for about $23K right now, still have to wire it and put my lift in though.
I am also black topping the area underneath the leanto, and the area outside of it, and in front of the building.



nice shop:smokin: must warn you that fuel will eat the shit out of black top especially diesel. and when it gets hot that shit will soften and to much on it will make it mush and leave permanent imprints.

[ScottFJ40 V2.0]

I've had asphalt before but thanks! It's all about compaction and rolling it TIGHT brother. ;)

[loveshackle]

It's all about compaction and rolling it TIGHT brother. ;)

You sure you're talking about asphalt? :flipoff2:





Nice looking garage, Scott!:grinpimp:

[ScottFJ40 V2.0]

You sure you're talking about asphalt? :flipoff2:





Nice looking garage, Scott!:grinpimp:

Yes and thank you!

There are many ways to do asphalt, the asshat ripoff way, and the correct way.

I better go tell the gas station across the street with the diesel pumps they better be careful! :D

[JeffHPK5]

I meant to ask in my first post but did you build it yourself or contract the job?

I'm sure you researched other style buildings when you decided to go with a wood frame , how do they compare to the steel "do-it-yourself" kits?


GTO under the tarp?

[ScottFJ40 V2.0]

I meant to ask in my first post but did you build it yourself or contract the job?

I'm sure you researched other style buildings when you decided to go with a wood frame , how do they compare to the steel "do-it-yourself" kits?


GTO under the tarp?the price included install, 2 guys and a JD tractor had it up in 3 days.
Some build pics here
http://scottkarg.com/garage/


GTO CLONE under the tarp, 63 Vette under the cover. The Pontiac is my hotrod, the Vette is my wife's.

I didn't really consider the steel do DIY type building, I didn't have the time, although I have heard there are some really nice ones available.

[tacoma73]

nice shop:smokin: must warn you that fuel will eat the shit out of black top especially diesel. and when it gets hot that shit will soften and to much on it will make it mush and leave permanent imprints.

Scott already said it, but they DO have asphalt out in the sticks ya know...:flipoff2:

Nice looking little shop, I dig it. The resident vehicles aren't too damn bad either... very nice!

[SPEEDCRAVIN]

I really dig yur shop build... I hadn't before but might look into the polished foor in my shop... In te appartment side of my shop I am going to stain it instead of the tile, hardwood or capret...

Thanks for some ideas... Looks great.

JOSH

[ScottFJ40 V2.0]

Scott already said it, but they DO have asphalt out in the sticks ya know...:flipoff2:

Nice looking little shop, I dig it. The resident vehicles aren't too damn bad either... very nice!Thanks!

I really dig yur shop build... I hadn't before but might look into the polished foor in my shop... In te appartment side of my shop I am going to stain it instead of the tile, hardwood or capret...

Thanks for some ideas... Looks great.

JOSHThanks as well.
I was going to epoxy my floor, but my crete guy suggested this, and to reseal it every 5 years IIRC. He said the oil will wipe right up. He's right, I parked my Pontiac in it and tested it out :laughing:

[ScottFJ40 V2.0]

Rotary sp10a 10K 2 post lift installed today! :grinpimp:


http://www.keystonekrawlers.com/gallery/albums/rotary-lift/P7150248.sized.jpg

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[JasonR]

You're living my dream :(

[ScottFJ40 V2.0]

Come move in with us :flipoff2:

[JasonR]

LOL don't tempt me :D

[the burbanator]

I've had asphalt before but thanks! It's all about compaction and rolling it TIGHT brother. ;)

not to rain on your parade but you can roll the shit out of it (not recommended) and stuff will still eat it up and leave imprints. also over rolling causes it to break apart due to deflection(?), meaning itll only compact so much before it breaks apart. not sure about the types of asphalt in your area or prices but if you put alot of heavy stuff on there, ask for 4C asphalt about 3-4 inches thick. its the same stuff they use on most roads around here and it cures hard as a rock (since it has a ton of aggrigate in it). even so, no matter what type of asphalt you get, on a nice hot sunny day, anything heavy can sink into it. sorry about the improv asphalt lesson. that shop looks magnificent, iss the polished concrete any slicker then non polished? keep up the good work on it.

[ScottFJ40 V2.0]

not to rain on your parade but you can roll the shit out of it (not recommended) and stuff will still eat it up and leave imprints. also over rolling causes it to break apart due to deflection(?), meaning itll only compact so much before it breaks apart. not sure about the types of asphalt in your area or prices but if you put alot of heavy stuff on there, ask for 4C asphalt about 3-4 inches thick. its the same stuff they use on most roads around here and it cures hard as a rock (since it has a ton of aggrigate in it). even so, no matter what type of asphalt you get, on a nice hot sunny day, anything heavy can sink into it. sorry about the improv asphalt lesson. that shop looks magnificent, iss the polished concrete any slicker then non polished? keep up the good work on it.I've had and dealt with asphalt all my life. I am not planning on pouring diesel or anything else all over it, and believe what you want, but there are big differences in paving companies and their quality of work, seen the good and the bad firsthand. Rolling it tight seems to b an acquired skill from what I've seen.
The biggest thing I have is my truck so I'll survive.

The polished concrete is fine when dry, I had my pontiac in there and it pissed atf and a small amount of oil, some simple green and shop towels wiped it right up.
I imagine oil on top would be a bit slicker.

[Blkvoodoo]

I noticed the green transformer box in a pic, while it may be "out of the way" they have a tendancy to magnetize (attract) vehilces, usually the ones who's operators are not aware of the box.

I have same at the end of my driveway (2ft off the edge), and it has been hit 3 times, once pushed completly off the slab twixt it was mounted.

I have since placed a large stone 5ft from the box, should catch anything that strays that direction.

might consider similar.

The power co gets pissy when they have to re-fuse six others and replace one on a Saturday afternoon. Oddly, my buddy has never recieved a bill for the damages, nor have I.

[ScottFJ40 V2.0]

I noticed the green transformer box in a pic, while it may be "out of the way" they have a tendancy to magnetize (attract) vehilces, usually the ones who's operators are not aware of the box.

I have same at the end of my driveway (2ft off the edge), and it has been hit 3 times, once pushed completly off the slab twixt it was mounted.

I have since placed a large stone 5ft from the box, should catch anything that strays that direction.

might consider similar.

The power co gets pissy when they have to re-fuse six others and replace one on a Saturday afternoon. Oddly, my buddy has never recieved a bill for the damages, nor have I.
Mine has been hit twice already :laughing: I hate it's location, but what am I gonna do? I was thinking of sinking some concrete filled pipe by the 2 outside corners, but I'll probably zap my ass.

[Blkvoodoo]

I was told by the area supervisor of the power co. " You need to move your driveway, if we come to move the box, you won't like the results"

He was an ass and was very unfriendly about the whole deal. started running his mouth soon as he jumped out of his truck, didn't stop tell his crew showed up. I really wanted to harm this individual.

I obtained some large limestone boulders, one about 3ft in dia, from a contruction site (for free) and set them so they would be hit before the box would. so far so good, I feel for the one who hits them, anything smaller than a pickup is gonna get some nice damage.

[ScottFJ40 V2.0]

I was told by the area supervisor of the power co. " You need to move your driveway, if we come to move the box, you won't like the results"

He was an ass and was very unfriendly about the whole deal. started running his mouth soon as he jumped out of his truck, didn't stop tell his crew showed up. I really wanted to harm this individual.

I obtained some large limestone boulders, one about 3ft in dia, from a contruction site (for free) and set them so they would be hit before the box would. so far so good, I feel for the one who hits them, anything smaller than a pickup is gonna get some nice damage.

Mine is actually sitting diagonal now, from whoever hit it.
I need something that'll cause damage as well.

[the burbanator]

I've had and dealt with asphalt all my life. I am not planning on pouring diesel or anything else all over it, and believe what you want, but there are big differences in paving companies and their quality of work, seen the good and the bad firsthand. Rolling it tight seems to b an acquired skill from what I've seen.
The biggest thing I have is my truck so I'll survive.

very true on the good and bad asphalt companies. asphalt does need to be compacted but normally only to 97% maximum density, any more and it can start to spread and break apart from over compacting. i work for one of the better residential asphalt companies in our neck of the woods and have seen firsthand the shitty ass work some companies are capable of. if at all possible, try and get a company that uses a road paver, itll make the driveway that much nicer. most companies use little spreader box deals that can turn a nice driveway into garbage real quick.

[ScottFJ40 V2.0]

very true on the good and bad asphalt companies. asphalt does need to be compacted but normally only to 97% maximum density, any more and it can start to spread and break apart from over compacting. i work for one of the better residential asphalt companies in our neck of the woods and have seen firsthand the shitty ass work some companies are capable of. if at all possible, try and get a company that uses a road paver, itll make the driveway that much nicer. most companies use little spreader box deals that can turn a nice driveway into garbage real quick.I actually got estimates from a few companies, out of 8 or so. Some just didn't show up for the estimate, and some didn't even call back.

I went with a company named T&A because, well, because of the name :laughing: They already did the upper part of my driveway, nice work, and the owner gave me my estimate on the spot. He actually went over all of the work they would do, and they were very professional.

It's hard to find good people in any kind of construction/contracting anymore.

[the burbanator]

t&a :laughing: we have a company up here called "B-M":D there are alot of of shitty asphalt companies out there. about 5 or so closed up shop this year around us cause they couldnt compete in the residential market with us (thats my take on it any way cause they all sucked major ass). make sure they lay the asphalt at the thickness they said they would. alot of companies will grade the driveway so it looks like youll get 3inches of asphalt or what ever but really your getting 2 or so but they still charge you the cost for 3 (they carge for whatever tonage it would be for 3 inches but give you 2). if your going to be there, get a wire coat hanger or something and markt it with tape or something at what ever thickness they said they would lay and have them measure it every so often while your standing there.

[the burbanator]

http://www.alliedasphalt.com/allied/Index.htm old pictures but thats the company i work for. in fact some of those pictures are at least 8 years old. the most they laid in one day was 5000 tons which is a record up here for most asphalt laid by a private company in 1 day. they said the motors on the pavers were glowing red when they finished. :smokin:

[solarpower]

Your lift needs a cupholder.:flipoff2:

[ScottFJ40 V2.0]

I think I am getting a smoking deal on a 250K BTU gas fired heater for my shop, talk about overkill. :D

[adampfisters]

Just to shine a little light on what everyone is talking about as far as overcompaction from what is actually happening when you overcompact. Someone mentioned up above that the density should be at most 97%. This is correct, the state of CA Transportation Dept. (Caltrans) actually deducts money from pavement that has been compacted more than this. The reason being is that the only way to compact greater than 97% is to compact with such a force that it is actually breaking the aggregate and in turn, ruducing the overall strength of the mat. This is not usually the case with driveways. Driveways are usually layed in one lift of substantial thickness (2" to 4") and compacted with a peanut (sidewalk) roller. You have nothing to worry about, just keep the point loads off during the heat.

And yes, diesel does destroy AC, it breaks down the oils that hold the aggregate together. They used to use diesel during paving to clean the pavers and shovels (We use a more environmentally friendly spray now)

[the burbanator]

what are these new sprays? im curious cause we are still using diesel fuel for our tools and sometimes they get abit messy and clean up is a bitch.

scott, what is the minum height required for the lift? the place we are looking at has a nice detached garage that is larger then usuall. not sure on the demensions since we wont see it till tomorrow.

[ScottFJ40 V2.0]

what are these new sprays? im curious cause we are still using diesel fuel for our tools and sometimes they get abit messy and clean up is a bitch.

scott, what is the minum height required for the lift? the place we are looking at has a nice detached garage that is larger then usuall. not sure on the demensions since we wont see it till tomorrow.
I ordered my building with 12' walls. This particular lift requires 11' 8 1/2" of clearance.

[the burbanator]

sweet, i believe the garage will be able to house a hoist like that then. ill know tomorrow. thanks:grinpimp:

[adampfisters]

what are these new sprays? im curious cause we are still using diesel fuel for our tools and sometimes they get abit messy and clean up is a bitch.

[continued hijack/] Check this site out for one of the options http://www.thetecteam.com/faq.html [/continued hijack]

[rockmup]

what are these new sprays? im curious cause we are still using diesel fuel for our tools and sometimes they get abit messy and clean up is a bitch.






ZEP products work great as well.




So where are the new pics Scott ?

[ScottFJ40 V2.0]

ZEP products work great as well.




So where are the new pics Scott ?

What new pics?

[Todd W]

The ones you haven't posted :P

[ScottFJ40 V2.0]

The ones you haven't posted :P

The most recent ones are posted on page 1. Something is wrong with my website it appears, so the original pics are not showing up. :confused:

[rockmup]

What new pics?


Pic's of the new pavement.

[ScottFJ40 V2.0]

Pic's of the new pavement.

As soon as it's paved, I will post them up :laughing:

[rockmup]

Yeh, my reading comp. is lacking.

[ScottFJ40 V2.0]

Got the shop wired today.
My lift was wired(220) and I got 2 more 220's, 1 for my compressor, and one for whatever.
I had 10 quad 110'a installed, some t8 overhead lights, and a wall mounted light next to my lift. Got a high outlet for my gas fired heater, 2 outdoor big halogen lights, and a porch light.
We'll trench and connect to my house next week. :D

[DJ404564X4]

HMMMMM , whats that ?!?

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/car.jpg

[JeffHPK5]

HMMMMM , whats that ?!?

This was covered on page one, faux GTO.

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o230/DJ404564X4/car.jpg

Scott, it sounds like your close to moving in!

From what I was reading over on chit-chat I thought you might have joined the band, make sure you post shop pics before you cut loose so I can see progress..:D

Jeff

[TejasYOTA]

Nice! Wish we all could have a real lift for our cars and trucks!
Can't wait to see your shop finished!

[ScottFJ40 V2.0]

Scott, it sounds like your close to moving in!

From what I was reading over on chit-chat I thought you might have joined the band, make sure you post shop pics before you cut loose so I can see progress..:D

JeffThanks Jeff. I don't think I'm going anywhere.
I've had my vehicles in the garage for a bit now actually.

Nice! Wish we all could have a real lift for our cars and trucks!
Can't wait to see your shop finished!Thanks, I can't wait either!

[300sniper]

that must be one hell of a trailer park you are living in there:flipoff2:




i'm jealous.

[ScottFJ40 V2.0]

Just flipped the switch, let there be LIGHT!!! :smokin:

A long time dream of mine is a reality, I know it's smaller than a lot posted here, but my days of working on shit outside on gravel are over.
This is a good day. :D

[300sniper]

Just flipped the switch, let there be LIGHT!!! :smokin:

A long time dream of mine is a reality, I know it's smaller than a lot posted here, but my days of working on shit outside on gravel are over.
This is a good day. :D

congrats!

[ScottFJ40 V2.0]

congrats!

Thanks! I was playing with my lift already, I feel a little under the weather this weekend, but I'm sure I'll spend a few more hours out there tomorrow.

[DJ404564X4]

Shwing .

Party on Wayne .:smokin:

[stock 87]

Just flipped the switch, let there be LIGHT!!! :smokin:

A long time dream of mine is a reality, I know it's smaller than a lot posted here, but my days of working on shit outside on gravel are over.
This is a good day. :D

It's about time!!!!!!!!!:flipoff2:
Did you ever get the LP kit for that heater?

[ScottFJ40 V2.0]

It's about time!!!!!!!!!:flipoff2:
Did you ever get the LP kit for that heater?

Not yet, but my wiring and switch is all there, ready for me to hang it. I'll work on getting the kit this week for sure!

[ScottFJ40 V2.0]

My juice is on, I can run my lft, compressor and welder now!
My asphaly parking pad was done Wednesday.

Yeah, I'm stoked!

Plenty of asphalt and electrical pics here.
http://scottkarg.com/asphalt/index.html

[bigdreamin]

I'm stealing your vette, just so your not like WTF tomorrow when it's gone. :flipoff2:
Looks good thou, time for me to get off my ass and get mine done. 3 months and all I have to show for it is some footers. :( Once I get going I'll start get my own thread.

[ScottFJ40 V2.0]

I'm stealing your vette, just so your not like WTF tomorrow when it's gone. :flipoff2:
Looks good thou, time for me to get off my ass and get mine done. 3 months and all I have to show for it is some footers. :( Once I get going I'll start get my own thread.

Get to work!

And you'll be stealing some lead if you try any of that monkey business, that's the wife's hotrod. :flipoff2:

[bigdreamin]

Get to work!

And you'll be stealing some lead if you try any of that monkey business, that's the wife's hotrod. :flipoff2:

Yea, the city has been fawkin me around for the last two on my variance but I finally got it approved this past Tue. Stone is coming Monday for the drive and if all goes well I'll have the block laid next weekend.

[rockota]

Honestly, Scott, with all the time, energy and $$ you put into it, the driveway leaves a lot to be desired. Sorry man.... Just an opinion.

[the burbanator]

i concur, the driveway is sort of a hack. those guys should know better then to just drag down the approach to the drive like that. over time it will just crack and break up then all that will just slowly travel up the drive. not many people tamp the edges anymore but ANY company that does is worth it. looks better and the edges dont break and crack as easily. not sure what they used to lay it down but as long as it doesnt hold water i guess its fine. the shop on the other hand is preamo:smokin:

edit: notcied the jackholes didnt even sweep off the door sill.

[ScottFJ40 V2.0]

Yea, the city has been fawkin me around for the last two on my variance but I finally got it approved this past Tue. Stone is coming Monday for the drive and if all goes well I'll have the block laid next weekend.
Congrats!
Honestly, Scott, with all the time, energy and $$ you put into it, the driveway leaves a lot to be desired. Sorry man.... Just an opinion.
No problem, opinions are welcome. I like it, and it was done properly. I will do the rest of the drive eventually, I am sticking to my construction budget and am actually still under by a few grand.

[ScottFJ40 V2.0]

i concur, the driveway is sort of a hack. those guys should know better then to just drag down the approach to the drive like that. over time it will just crack and break up then all that will just slowly travel up the drive. not many people tamp the edges anymore but ANY company that does is worth it. looks better and the edges dont break and crack as easily. not sure what they used to lay it down but as long as it doesnt hold water i guess its fine. the shop on the other hand is preamo:smokin:

edit: notcied the jackholes didnt even sweep off the door sill.

If you're talking about this,
http://scottkarg.com/asphalt/slides/pics%20002.jpg

If you look, there's a"ridge" at the end, they did tamp the edges. Then they just dumped the excess material at the end. That's how he explained it to me.

The base is 4" #2's(IIRC) then another 2" of crush and run.
The apron they did at the other end of my driveway back in April seems to be holding up well. I guess we shall see.

I wasn't happy with a couple of the workers asking my wife where lunch was as soon as the owner of the company left, fawk you bitches, we ALWAYS give workers food and drink, these beggars only got drinks. :shaking:

The owner of the company was great though.

[threadkiller]

I'm glad to see everything come together. I do wonder about the quality of the asphalt job, but pictures can be deceiving. If you're happy with it, then the contractor did his job.

So, uhhh... When's the new shop party? :D

[ScottFJ40 V2.0]

I'm glad to see everything come together. I do wonder about the quality of the asphalt job, but pictures can be deceiving. If you're happy with it, then the contractor did his job.

So, uhhh... When's the new shop party? :D

I'm ready now! :D