Thinking about stepping up and buying the XM set-up. I'm sick of looking for CD's and I can't get FM anywhere on the trail. I think the XM would be sweet for the trail 100 + channels of no commercials and It's satelite so I can get it anywhere in the US.. Just wondering if anyone has it yet and if they like it or not

Dosent that still work off of " line of sight ". If you go under trees or behind big rocks wont you still loose signal. Besides you should be listening to your rig not the radio.

Why pay for a monthly subscription to that, and still *maybe* lose signal in dense cover?


How about 20gb of misic storage for your trail rig - roughly 600 CD's worth? ;)

http://www.ssiamerica.com/products/neo35/

http://www.carsound.com/reviews/hd_units/neocarjuke.html


$500 and you can load every stinkin' song you could EVER want to hear! :p

Originally posted by DRM
Why pay for a monthly subscription to that, and still *maybe* lose signal in dense cover?


:p

I didn't know it wouldn't work in dense areas, sales guy told me it would work anywhere... Thats why I'm asking though...

Originally posted by Chopperman


I didn't know it wouldn't work in dense areas, sales guy told me it would work anywhere... Thats why I'm asking though...


May not happen, but we are talking satelite reception, so it CAN happen...

But why pay $10 a month for music? If I was looking - I would do the Neo jukebox I linked above - that is just plain sweet :)

Wouldn't a HD skip over rough terrain just like a CD though?? I read the review (if you wanna call it that) and it didn't have much content of the devices sound, or vibration resistance performance. Those have always been two things that you don't get together.

XM:

It's satelite, but it's not as picky as DirecTV, for example. It uses a buffering system that allows it to handle going under dense cover for a while without problems. It doesn't need LOS all the time. That said, if you're often not able to "see" the satelite, it might not work well. For the runs I've gone on in Moab, it would work great. Deep canyons might present problems.

HD based MP3 players:

I just don't trust an HD to the extreme shock and vibration a rig experiences when wheeling. As for skipping, if it were to skip, you probably crashed the heads. That would kill the HD.

IMO, the best soultion is an MP3-CD player. You get long play time, about 8 hours, and if you skip, that's all you do. Even if you damage the CD, blanks cost all of $0.10 these days if you catch a deal. My deck is a Pioneer DEH-P740MP. I've beat the crap out of it in my car and it works great. I have no doubt it would handle wheeling just fine 90% of the time or better. I'll probably buy another one for my truck when I get that thing on the road. Just about every major manufacturer makes them now, and the cost less than an XM receiver and have no subscription costs. :)

i use the xm radio in my big Truck and it works everywhere even in downtown areas.. i would have to say that with the antenae mounted to my mirror and a 13'6" truck and trailer next to it that its bound to be bolocking the view a lot... they do have 2 sattelites though and ground repeaters to help..

the cirus radio's sattelites are much higher up in the horizon allowing them better signal coverage than XM's which is why Xm uses ground repeters... im not even sure if cirus is operational yet??????

peace
Jw

Does the XM cost a monthy fee?

Originally posted by DRM


But why pay $10 a month for music? If I was looking - I would do the Neo jukebox I linked above - that is just plain sweet :)

Because the neo jukebox will not get a live race feed:flipoff2:

I dont have the xm but i did look into it and the salesman in my area told me that it works about 90% of the time. He said in heavily wooded areas and in parking garages or tunnels you will have a problem recieving a signal.
My .02 but i think the new mp3 players are the best way to go if you have a computer with a cd burner.

Originally posted by fabricator
Does the XM cost a monthy fee?
$9.99 a month

I don't know of any hard drive that will withstand continual shocks and vibrations, let alone what it would get put through in a truck. :flipoff2:

http://www.procell-media.com/CJmanual.pdf

There's the manual.

Look under section 26...

Do not subject the Neo jukebox to severe impact or jarring. Vibration experienced under normal moving or driving will not affect the Neo.However dropping the player, or some offroad driving MAY damage the player or otherwise result in sound distortion.
MJ

XM Radio didn't work very well in Tellico, kept cutting out. So I guess I'll put it in my Dodge.

CJ

Originally posted by ttabbal
XM:

It's satelite, but it's not as picky as DirecTV, for example. It uses a buffering system that allows it to handle going under dense cover for a while without problems. It doesn't need LOS all the time. That said, if you're often not able to "see" the satelite, it might not work well. For the runs I've gone on in Moab, it would work great. Deep canyons might present problems.

HD based MP3 players:

I just don't trust an HD to the extreme shock and vibration a rig experiences when wheeling. As for skipping, if it were to skip, you probably crashed the heads. That would kill the HD.

IMO, the best soultion is an MP3-CD player. You get long play time, about 8 hours, and if you skip, that's all you do. Even if you damage the CD, blanks cost all of $0.10 these days if you catch a deal. My deck is a Pioneer DEH-P740MP. I've beat the crap out of it in my car and it works great. I have no doubt it would handle wheeling just fine 90% of the time or better. I'll probably buy another one for my truck when I get that thing on the road. Just about every major manufacturer makes them now, and the cost less than an XM receiver and have no subscription costs. :)


I gave up on CD players in a 4X4. I've had 2 of them and trashed
both because they filled up with dust. The HD in the player DRM
mentioned will also be destroyed in short order by the shocks from
4 wheeling.

Cd players aren't what they used to be, my first portabel player w/special shock base worked, ok, but skipped regularily, and over some of the nastier r/r tracks.
My 4yr old 10 disc changer works flawlessly, bouncin & minor jumps. But DO NOT,change discs while your bouncin, that'll cost ya, btdt, ymmv.

http://www.mp3car.com/ might wanna look here. Im pretty sure there are hd cases that have suspension

I think this (http://www.kenwoodusa.com/excelon/excelonKeg.jsp) is solid state. Looks like a iomega drive (http://www.iomega.com/hdd/index.html)

I forgot about the dust on the trail. You could always enclose the unit to prevent dust getting into it. Solid state may be the way to go, the downside is price. Memory cards cost about $1/meg. CD-Rs cost $0.50/650 Meg. But if the player dies, it's not worth much.

Could always buy the extended warrenty and get lots of replacement units...

:D

Why not just spend $150-300 for a car stereo that plays mp3's? You can fit quite a bit of music on one 800mb cd and you don't have to worry about the hard drive crashing or trees distorting your music/talk. You can find them anywhere. Hell even Jensen makes one.