Went thru the Con twice and missed Big Sluice so where is it? Near Buck Island past Little Sluice? Would like to run it this oncoming weekend.

Thanks in advance

Big Sluice is after the drop off past Buck. The true sluice/big old sluice/flatfender alley is at the top of the slabs above Buck Island. Look to the right. It comes out at the bottom when you get back in the trees.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=310787&stc=1&d=1182377974

True Big Sluice is what I have been looking for. Thanks for the directions and map. It is very helpful.:grinpimp:

If you miss the entrance at the top,go down the slabs (Granite highway) to Buck, just as you make the left into the trees, you will see a trail that goes to the right. That is the bottom end of Old Sluice.

Randii,
Where is this map from? Could I get a link or a copy of the full version from you?

Randii, where is this map from? Could I get a link or a copy of the full version from you?
This is the draft map that FOTR is developing from county, federal, and private data... it ain't ready for release yet, but El Dorado County will be printing up 50,000 copies of it in 8.5x11" format, and the Rubicon Trail Foundation is looking at pursuing production/sales of a large-format poster print for fundraising purposes. I'll post more information when it becomes available, but there is still some non-trivila amount of thrashing to be done with teh forest service. In a nutshell, the 50K version needs to have buyoff from pretty much all of the agencies, and they can't even agree on how to spell El Dorado/Eldorado, so you can imagine the hijinks that ensue from obtaining approval of actual routes...

Randii

This is the draft map that FOTR is developing from county, federal, and private data... it ain't ready for release yet, but El Dorado County will be printing up 50,000 copies of it in 8.5x11" format, and the Rubicon Trail Foundation is looking at pursuing production/sales of a large-format poster print for fundraising purposes. I'll post more information when it becomes available, but there is still some non-trivila amount of thrashing to be done with teh forest service. In a nutshell, the 50K version needs to have buyoff from pretty much all of the agencies, and they can't even agree on how to spell El Dorado/Eldorado, so you can imagine the hijinks that ensue from obtaining approval of actual routes...

Randii

So what "sluice" is it on the way up from wentworth springs? I thought the old sluice was wws and big sluice was after buck? We came through the the wws way and would like to know whats what.

So what "sluice" is it on the way up from wentworth springs? I thought the old sluice was wws and big sluice was after buck? We came through the the wws way and would like to know whats what.

I've heard it called "Forgotten Sluice". I think it depends on who you're talking to. Everyone has a different name for stuff.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=310787&stc=1&d=1182377974Found it last weekend! Whoa! there are two huge boulders :eek:at the end of True Big Slice challenging anyone trying to run it. Went there twice but turned back due to broken rigs trapped on those huge boulders :mad3:but we really enjoyed this run anyway. Will try those huge boulders when they are available someday.

Thanks for excellent directions.

coming in last week we stopped at the crystal basin ranger station for our fire permits (for the propane stove). Picked up a very cool spill kit in a large clear plastic bag. Lots of nifty items inside, bottle openers, paper funnels, etc. One map, however, that covers the trail shows 'big sluice' located between spider and buck. hummm.... somebody spent a lot of $$$$ to get it wrong. Anyone else notice this? can post pix of the map if interested.

mb

I've heard it called "Forgotten Sluice". I think it depends on who you're talking to. Everyone has a different name for stuff.

Yup. Forgotten sluice is the one ~1/2 mile past Devils Post-Pile

One map, however, that covers the trail shows 'big sluice' located between spider and buck. hummm.... somebody spent a lot of $$$$ to get it wrong. Anyone else notice this? can post pix of the map if interested.
That's the first County Map -- there are more than a few things wrong with it, and we've commented them all. FOTR has been working with them to get a better map in place -- the map linked above is a subset of that map.

Randii

once the upper (and legal) bypass to little sluice drops back into LS, above the big rocks, one follows a cliff face bordered by a slab to spider-- just before million dollar hill. Is there a name for this section or is it all LS??


looking uphill
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/RARECJ8/ls2.jpg

looking down hill

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/RARECJ8/upperls.jpg


here's one looking uphill in the 'forgotten' sluice above WWS?

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y12/RARECJ8/wwsluice1.jpg

that last picture is of Devils Postpile

thanks-- that posatpile is one mean mo-fo, especially the upper section. so as i understand it, the 'bypass' to the postlile that runs to the left (west) is not part of the 'trail?"

mb

thanks-- that posatpile is one mean mo-fo, especially the upper section. so as i understand it, the 'bypass' to the postlile that runs to the left (west) is not part of the 'trail?"
Not according the the Forest Service Motorized Restriction Map, but FOTR is fighting to keep both included. It is tough to get through to them, but JUST ONE TRAIL isn't always the answer -- it should be OK to have a main trail and an alternate to allow traffic to pass, or to permit a difficult spot to be bypassed (or not!). There's a middle ground between route proliferation and designating JUST ONE TRAIL...

BTW, your pictures:
#1 Upper Little Devil's Sluice a.k.a. Upper Big Sluice, straight ahead, and you can see the legal bypass cutting up and over the rocks to the right
#2 reverse angle of #1
#3 Devil's Postpile

Forgotten Sluice is a ways further along toward Ellis Creek after Postpile.

Randii