Here is the impression that others are trying to create for us!
I would bet that if we look at comparable numbers for any city, we have less citations issued on a percentage basis for the number of people recreating on public land!

We need to get better at policing ourselves and stop this behavior.
I am not going to say what crowd within the OHV comunity is the most roudy, because, all of the OHV groups have those that get extremely roudy!

I think if we work on our trail patrol programs, and help patrol the trails, and tell people to knock it off, we can help our image.

Todd


'Monstrous' problem?
Rowdy OHV crowd alleged
Report says Utah's 1,336 violations is second only to California since 2004
Correction: The only hit-and-run citation for an off-highway vehicle on BLM land from 2004 through the first half of 2007 was in California. A story in Thursday's Tribune incorrectly suggested there were some in Utah.
Off-road vehicle drivers are becoming a "monstrous" law enforcement problem in the West, particularly in Utah, according to a federal crime statistics analysis released Wednesday.
Public Employees for Environmental Responsibility, an advocacy group of current and former federal workers, crunched U.S. Bureau of Land Management off-highway vehicle crime statistics for the past four years and found that only California posted more violations than Utah.
"America needs stronger penalties to deter reckless off-roading," said Southwest PEER Director Daniel Patterson, an ecologist in Tucson, Ariz., who formerly worked with BLM. "The rangers are frustrated. They are on the front lines."
The numbers show that from 2004 through the first half of 2007, federal rangers on BLM land in Utah issued 1,336 off-road violations for reckless driving, driving under the influence of alcohol, illegal off-roading on closed trails or off-limit areas and other crimes.
But OHV advocates scoffed at the statistics, saying they reflect BLM law enforcement priorities, so naturally the numbers would skew to OHV abuses.
The violations "are more or less the only crime because there's not much crime on public lands," said Steve Jackson, president of Utah Shared Access Alliance.
"If hikers are up there committing crimes, they're not likely to get tickets because that's not where [rangers] are focusing," added long-time OHV advocate Rainer Huck, now a mayoral candidate in Salt Lake City.
The PEER report is the second pointing out OHV abuses released since the BLM reported near-riot conditions at Juab County's Little Sahara Recreation Area during the Easter holiday in April, when an estimated 35,000 people visited the dunes.
Two nights in a row, melees involving about 1,000 people each took rangers several hours to control. Rangers ejected about 200 people from Sand Mountain, where ATV riders are allowed to motor 24 hours a day, seven days a week. Family areas away from Sand Mountain weren't affected.
Ed Patrovsky, a PEER member who retired from BLM law enforcement after more than 15 years on the job, said his experiences as a ranger in the West were mostly confined to issuing tickets for OHV infractions and light misdemeanors. More serious encounters included vandalism, felony warrants, fights and assaults.
"I've had bottles thrown at me, things of that nature," he said. "It can be awful scary out there when you're working by yourself and there are hundreds of these people and a riot mentality can develop."
BLM statistics for 2004-2007 obtained by PEER under the Freedom of Information Act show in the five-state area of California, Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico and Utah there were more than 6,600 off-road violations for hit and run, reckless driving, and other crimes, and more than 2,300 incidents of illegal off-roading on closed trails or off-limit areas.
But compared with the number of OHV users, those numbers look small to Huck. In Utah alone, he estimated that in addition to the more than 200,000 registered OHVs, there are at least that many more that aren't registered due to the expense.
Add in four-wheel drive trucks and cars, dual-sport motorcycles and other off-road vehicles and the number comes to 600,000 OHVs in Utah, Huck said.
"The BLM refuses to accept that and plan for that. Their only response is to close land," Huck said.
Jackson of the Shared Access Alliance said his group and others are working to educate OHV riders about their legal obligations.
"We feel there is an opportunity for everyone to work together and share the West, not close off any area to any one group," Jackson said. "You don't want to be the guy riding off-trail when a responsible group passes by."
I've had bottles thrown at me, things of that nature. . . . It can be awful scary out there when you're working by yourself and there are hundreds of these people and a riot mentality can develop.
- Ed Patrovsky, a PEER member who retired from BLM law enforcement after more than 15 years on the job
If hikers are up there committing crimes, they're not likely to get tickets because that's not where [rangers] are focusing.
- Long-time OHV advocate Rainer Huck, now a mayoral candidate in Salt Lake City

This taken from the Salt Lake Tribune.
Link: http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_6355197

The comments I posted in response:


A few facts for everyone here. If you read the press release by PEER upon which this article is based, some interesting numbers appear. While I'm sure it's not the conclusion they want to represent, the BLM's own numbers are very clear.

The majority of the "crimes" committed were for OHV registration, not wearing a helmet, or having a broken tail or head light.

The number of incidents has declined since 2004 from over 3000 incidents per year to under 2600 in 2006.

There were 1336 incidents in Utah over the 3.5 year period, so about 382 incidents per year on average. Conservatively, there are 200,000 OHV's registered in Utah (this doesn't include 4x4's and dual-sport bikes). Do the math and you see that only 0.19% of OHV users have committed an offense over the period in question. That truly represents a "few bad apples." And this little calculation is the low end of the scale. If you want to get mathematical, we would consider the number of times each vehicle is used each year and include 4x4's and dual-sport bikes. So, less than 0.2% of OHV users are irresponsible? That's a true minority.

However, that doesn't absolve the motorized community's responsiblity to stamp out irresponsible behavior in the last 0.2%. It's a problem that groups like USA-ALL, U4WDA, UTMA, and others are working hard to resolve. Instead of forcing closures through lawsuits costly to the taxpayers, groups like SUWA and their friends could donate 1% of their annual income to education and enforcement programs to help resolve this issue.

Making hateful and rage-filled statements on the Internet isn't going to solve any problems.

OHV'ers don't want unrestricted access to every inch of public. Not all OHV'ers are fat and out of shape. Not all OHV'ers are irresponsible. Please don't believe the propaganda.

We need to get better at policing ourselves and stop this behavior.
I am not going to say what crowd within the OHV comunity is the most roudy, because, all of the OHV groups have those that get extremely roudy!

I think if we work on our trail patrol programs, and help patrol the trails, and tell people to knock it off, we can help our image.



Very true. Wish we had the money, will, and volunteers to make it happen.

Thanks for passing that along Todd, I completely agree with you on the importance of our image too. While the problem is with a minority of people, it's what gets publicized to the general public and paraded around as the norm.

Education is key. For everyone reading this and willing to get involved and make a difference, you know where to find us: http://rubicontrailpatrol.org

Thanks!

How about a letter to the paper editor about the numbers that were just posted? Yeah, they probably won't put it in, but it's worth a shot. If we flooded his/her email box, it would probably get their attention. Push the issue back a little. The greenies push hard when something comes up, and so should we. Like I said, they may not put anything in the paper, but yet, they might. This is a heated debate, and if papers are bored, they like to stir it up some.