: How I did my axle breathers
Kyron 06-08-2002, 07:54 PM After using the search button and not finding any thing I liked...
I just removed the breather cap on the stock units and drilled out the hole to 1/4 inch then I welded in a peice of 1/4inch tube bent almost 90 deg to it wll run over to the break lines and up.
I know a picture is most helpfull but I dont have a dig camera AND if you can't figure out what I'm sayin......:beer:
GaryGreco 06-09-2002, 10:23 AM Well mine was a little simpler.
I used a coiled air hose (the yellow kind) i had laying around unscrewd the rear diff vent screwed in the hose ran the hose up to the gas door area over the gas tank, and mounted the vent check valve where the fuel door opening is.
I figure i wont get that high in the water too many times .
The coil allows for suspension drop and compression without any extra springs, wires, or tie straps to keep it clear of binding or pinching.
I used the same type coil for the front dif only smaller size hose ,and ran it up to the firewall as high as i could to mount it.
No pics because i'm not a paying member, sorry
gary
Kyron 06-09-2002, 02:40 PM I checked with those type of hoses' s but they all had standard threads .....
Oh well
Jim Johnson 06-09-2002, 02:44 PM I took off the factory cap that was on the breather. I then went to hardware store and got some 3/8" clear hose. the hose slid onto the factory breather. I put on a small clamp and WALLLAA...
I allowed for extra room for suspension travel, and I zip tied the hose into the engine compartment, and up around my flatbed.
4CrawlR 06-09-2002, 03:20 PM Originally posted by Kyron
I checked with those type of hoses' s but they all had standard threads .....
I find 1/8" NPT fittings either go right in or at most need a quick pass of a pipe thread tap to fit:
http://4crawler.cruiserpages.com/4x4/CheapTricks/WaterProofing.shtml#Breathers
For sure using SAE pipe thread fittings reduces the cost and increases the options for the breather.
Heavy Metal Toy 06-09-2002, 07:09 PM i used 2 toyota part number 90404-51319 for $5 each, and some plastic tubing from the hardware store, and 2 hose clamps, just screwed the original breathers into the ends of the hoses. mounted the front up by the carburator, mounted the rear up by the gas filler. cheap and easy.:usa:
tranny bolts 06-09-2002, 09:39 PM I did the same as darth but brought the tow axles together into a t and brought up to top of bed were i put a fuel filter in. "I used gas tubing though
Chopperman 06-09-2002, 09:47 PM Originally posted by GaryGreco
I used a coiled air hose (the yellow kind)
gary
This is some serious TECH... and to think all of that time I spent searching and searching for the answers... Now I can finally make my diff breathers:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Kyron 06-09-2002, 10:50 PM Glad to help :zzz:
Heavy Metal Toy 06-09-2002, 11:01 PM Originally posted by Chopperman
This is some serious TECH... and to think all of that time I spent searching and searching for the answers... Now I can finally make my diff breathers:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
hey, some of us have to think about keeping mud and sh!t out of our axles.
Chopperman 06-09-2002, 11:14 PM Originally posted by Darth Vader
hey, some of us have to think about keeping mud and sh!t out of our axles.
um, I don't think I said anything about not keeping mud and Sh!t out of my axles. Now I know this is far fetched, but let's just make believe for a minute that this is supposed to be a rockcrawling forum and most people here are looking for more technical information than using F-ING YELLOW AIR HOSE for diff breathers. In fact, if you can't figure out how to unscrew the stock breather, put a nipple in there and attach some rubber hose and a hose clamp YOUR AN IDIOT and have place behind the wheel or on this site...
ROKTOY 06-10-2002, 06:39 AM Originally posted by Chopperman
Now I know this is far fetched, but let's just make believe for a minute that this is supposed to be a rockcrawling forum and most people here are looking for more technical information than using F-ING YELLOW AIR HOSE for diff breathers.
Hmmm...seems more legit than some of the other dribble spewed out around here.
Jay
RocKrawler 06-10-2002, 08:30 AM Originally posted by ROKTOY
Hmmm...seems more legit than some of the other dribble spewed out around here.
Jay
Gotta back ROKTOY on that one...:smokin:
dxwwn 06-10-2002, 09:47 AM Originally posted by RocKrawler
Gotta back ROKTOY on that one...:smokin:
as do i, as do i:smokin:
I just pulled off connectors from EFI plenums that route vacuum to the brake booster. They are about an inch long and allow easy clamping. Plus, you can get a ton of them at a junk yard. Almost any Jap car has them on their intake plenum. Last time I went I go a dozen and passed them out to fellow club members.
GaryGreco 06-10-2002, 11:30 AM Geez ,
Someone asked for some idea or help and people respond accordingly,not everyone in here has done everything some of you have to your trucks.
I think its important to help others with ideas that are both cost effective, and prempt any kind of colladeral damage that might occur from their mistakes . ie "the yellow coiled air hose"
I have seen countless 4 wheelers put a longer hose on only to have it come off while wheeling hard because they don't know the length of their articulation.
Hmm how would i know, well i used to get them in when their rear end was making noise like a cement mixer and i had to rebuild them under warranty . Yes under warranty ,because toyota would do so much customer care free work it was insane,just to keep and get more customers. We even did 22r hydrauliced motors under warranty, and everyone knows that wasn't toyotas fault some idiot went barreling into a stream over his hood thinking it wouldn' hurt a thing. So a coiled air line will help prevent a rear end overhaul from water damage just as well as a rubber hose and clamp in the right location. May not be the "Tech Tip " you want to see here but that person it was.
I suggested a coil hose so you never have to worry about it kinking or getting pulled out. I am not affraid to suggest what works for me ,whether if fits the "Pirate Hard Core Rock Crawler" clic or not . I don't have an ego to keep propped up here,i just have experience in areas that many of you don't and i am willing to help anyone if i can. My back may be disabled but my mind isn't, i have learned so much here just reading and asking questions i can't tell ya how much.
I enjoy helping all and any of you in any way i can, i don't claim to know it all and i don't. I see too many people getting taken advantage of by unscrupulous mechanics and shops it makes me sick,they are the ones that give the decent techs, that work hard for a fair wage, a bad name.
Sorry for the ramble , ;) I have always tried to help and do whats right for people....
:beer: :beer: :beer:
time to get back to school and help the shop teacher straighten out the tool room...
Good Luck
Gary
RocKrawler 06-10-2002, 11:45 AM EASY there newbie... some of us thought it was valid enough to post.. we backed it up... ease off....
Originally posted by GaryGreco
Geez ,
Someone asked for some idea or help and people respond accordingly,not everyone in here has done everything some of you have to your trucks.
I think its important to help others with ideas that are both cost effective, and prempt any kind of colladeral damage that might occur from their mistakes . ie "the yellow coiled air hose"
I have seen countless 4 wheelers put a longer hose on only to have it come off while wheeling hard because they don't know the length of their articulation.
Hmm how would i know, well i used to get them in when their rear end was making noise like a cement mixer and i had to rebuild them under warranty . Yes under warranty ,because toyota would do so much customer care free work it was insane,just to keep and get more customers. We even did 22r hydrauliced motors under warranty, and everyone knows that wasn't toyotas fault some idiot went barreling into a stream over his hood thinking it wouldn' hurt a thing. So a coiled air line will help prevent a rear end overhaul from water damage just as well as a rubber hose and clamp in the right location. May not be the "Tech Tip " you want to see here but that person it was.
I suggested a coil hose so you never have to worry about it kinking or getting pulled out. I am not affraid to suggest what works for me ,whether if fits the "Pirate Hard Core Rock Crawler" clic or not . I don't have an ego to keep propped up here,i just have experience in areas that many of you don't and i am willing to help anyone if i can. My back may be disabled but my mind isn't, i have learned so much here just reading and asking questions i can't tell ya how much.
I enjoy helping all and any of you in any way i can, i don't claim to know it all and i don't. I see too many people getting taken advantage of by unscrupulous mechanics and shops it makes me sick,they are the ones that give the decent techs, that work hard for a fair wage, a bad name.
Sorry for the ramble , ;) I have always tried to help and do whats right for people....
:beer: :beer: :beer:
time to get back to school and help the shop teacher straighten out the tool room...
Good Luck
Gary
:crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby: :shaking: :shaking: :zzz:
Chopperman 06-10-2002, 01:46 PM You guys are on CRACK !!!! It's a diff breather.... How hard can it be to figure out that in order to make a diff breather longer one must take a piece of hose, attach it, and put some kind of fuel filter or the stock breathers on the end ???
Originally posted by GaryGreco
We even did 22r hydrauliced motors under warranty, and everyone knows that wasn't toyotas fault some idiot went barreling into a stream over his hood thinking it wouldn' hurt a thing.
Gary
Was this dealer loacted in FANTASY land ???
tonka 06-11-2002, 03:36 AM I used a coat hanger and a shoe lace, saw it on McGuyver once.
:flipoff2:
schuss 06-11-2002, 10:41 AM on my zuk I just used cheapo heater hose, then ran it up into the engine compartment (along the frame rail from the rear, with some extra slack for articulation). To top it I got some plumbing fittings (plastic ones) to make a little periscope looking thing at the top. I put in a reducer plug with some mesh and a piece of a lawnmower air filter glued into that, so I have a removable and washable filter. Then I painted it blue. And I used the special SILVER hose clamps too. and duct tape. is that hardcore enough?
Dirtdragon 03-15-2003, 12:02 PM hey Chopperman I got a "tech" question about using or relocating the stock breather(the one on my truck seems to be a one way check valve allowing pressure out but nothing back in) so I put this one way valve on/next to above my axle I wheel my truck hard, temp. increases in the axle housing the expanding air goes out the onewaycheckvalve then drive into a cold stream creating a vaccum in the axle housing guess what happens water goes by the axle grease seals what good did the 8' high breather hose do?..........just some rambling.......nothing too important:D
Hawaii500_1999 03-15-2003, 01:11 PM i went to pick and pull and pulled the barbs for the vacumn as well.
i originally put in sae pipe threaded barbs but only a couple of threads went in and i didn't trust it.
the intake barbs fit nice. oh and i did the fuel filter trick later on.
v6toy4x 03-15-2003, 03:09 PM I used the intake fitting trick then ran the rear breather up my trac bar to the horseshoe collar installed a "T" to pickup the breather from the back of the dana 300 then installed another "T" to pick up a breather in the ott adapter then on to the firewall where I installed another "T" to pick up the front diff breather and finshed at the top of the firewall in a fuel filter--one vent hose for all
Chopperman - the thread title was "How I did my axle breathers"...what do you suppose that link would lead you to? if its below your knowledge, fine, just ignore it. if its NOOB, mods will see it and move it. if no one is interested, it will fall off into the bottom of the forum quickly. why chime in on a tech post just to flame it? :confused:
Toyofast 03-15-2003, 03:58 PM I used a stock Nissan breather, part # is on off-road.com somewhere... unscrew old breather screw in new breather. Plus the Nissan ones have a longer nipple which makes connecting the hose much easier. Total cost was like $7-8 for both.
nissan part # is 38323-C6010
Wyld Bill 03-15-2003, 05:04 PM Well I've got the elaborate pumlbing type set up on my rig but lately I've been thinking "outside the box" with the axle vent thing. Got to admit I stole the idea from an ATV I saw. Instead of going through all the trouble & problems of running some sort of a about water levell vent system,.....just mount an expandable/contractable device right onto the axle vent holes. On the fourwheeler I saw (Arctic Cat I think) it was just a couple of little plastic acorian looking things about 1" wide by 1-1/2" to 5" tall depending on the tempurature of the axle. ;)
Toyofast 03-15-2003, 06:06 PM Originally posted by Wyld Bill
Well I've got the elaborate pumlbing type set up on my rig but lately I've been thinking "outside the box" with the axle vent thing. Got to admit I stole the idea from an ATV I saw. Instead of going through all the trouble & problems of running some sort of a about water levell vent system,.....just mount an expandable/contractable device right onto the axle vent holes. On the fourwheeler I saw (Arctic Cat I think) it was just a couple of little plastic acorian looking things about 1" wide by 1-1/2" to 5" tall depending on the tempurature of the axle. ;)
What you wrote is basicly what is on the Toy housings to start with, right? Little cover top thing that moves up and down to allow hot air to get out and keep the water out, right?:confused:
Wyld Bill 03-15-2003, 06:17 PM Nope not at all the same. It's like strapping a little ballon onto the vent fitting only this ballon is well,...I lot more rugged than a ballon & holds a shape.
You've never seen the infomercials on the adjustable size refrigerator storage containers?;)
Kyron 03-15-2003, 07:05 PM Originally posted by Dirtdragon
hey Chopperman I got a "tech" question about
But Dirtdragon have a question for YOU......... why'd you dig this thread up? :flipoff2:
Whats an axel breather? I've never heard of them...........:D
Dirtdragon 03-16-2003, 01:15 PM I have put alot of time into working on beach equipment hard environment (saltwater,sand,hot airtemp,and cold water temp)the breathers on the housings have basically a filter at the end allowing air in/out.The hubs are not vented and get water in them often (hot hubs cold water just seems to suck in the water). just my .02:D
flimmy 03-16-2003, 04:04 PM Originally posted by Karl
I just pulled off connectors from EFI plenums that route vacuum to the brake booster. They are about an inch long and allow easy clamping. Plus, you can get a ton of them at a junk yard. Almost any Jap car has them on their intake plenum. Last time I went I go a dozen and passed them out to fellow club members.
Thats what I did. I know there are no efi toy's with the brake boost fitting on the intake at the juck yard I go to. :d
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