I'm thinking she needs the non running M715 I just bought instead of the Aervoe flat milspec "sand" 3/4 ton semi non running Suburban that currently's taking up driveway space. I need some Amo though. I just gave her a Scrambler, Hmm... When's mothers day? Oh ya that was the weekend I was competing in Calrocs. :( Some cool pictures of modified M715's would help.

You got an M715?

You bastard

Sounds to meemore like your trying to come up with justification
and excuses for the purchase.

You had better give that truck to me :D

number one reason
1 Shes a jeep chick and she needs a JEEP(so what if its a kaiser willys) ;)
2 unlike the scrambler it can fit 38s with no lift:D
3 can add a buncha seats in the back and go to marine world(like a bus)
4 M715s ARE FAWKIN COOL (good reason right there ) ;)
5 you can make the m715 run better than the burban
6 unlike the burban it needs no lift, just bigger tires
7 its cooler than the burban
8 its got more towin capacity than the burban
9 did i mention the m715 looks way cooler than some burban? :D
10 you could always drop the motor from the truck in there and get rid of both your tow rigs and use the m715 as one
:D il think of more later

Don't listen to him Steve, he can't get one rig done. ;)

Damn, I love 2fers

http://www.froadin.com/images/goodside.jpg

only one i found so far, hope the link works

Who can't get one done? me? you? Brad? or TODD????????:flipoff2:

Here's one

Oh hell, I guess all of us. No wait, mine runs. I just have another in the works, that count? ummm 4fer? Course lemme count the rigs at Todds... a cj, an xj, a volkswagon... not quite 4 there...

mike was talkin about todd i think, anyway are my reasons good enough or do i gotta come up with more:D and do u need me at work tommarow/today?

Originally posted by Monkeyboy
You got an M715?

You bastard

Sounds to meemore like your trying to come up with justification
and excuses for the purchase.

You had better give that truck to me :D

Dude you've gotta see it it's still got original paint. Pretty much all the cool stuff's there too. Including the deepwater snorkel.

Originally posted by Steve N


Dude you've gotta see it it's still got original paint. Pretty much all the cool stuff's there too. Including the deepwater snorkel.

Don't let him see it. :flipoff2:

I got my XJ almost done :flipoff2:

Guess I'll throw in an excuse as well

If it's bigger then a suburban it must be safer :D

1 1/4 ton

Oh, I owe an excuse. You live in Kalifornia, you must drive a rag top.

might wanna have reasons its better than the scrambler too......like i did :D

Is it at the shop or home?

Where did you get it? It wasn't the one in the Monterey area was it?

Originally posted by Brad
might wanna have reasons its better than the scrambler too......like i did :D

It's got a real bed and built in under bed storage :D now you have a place for that bazooka in traffic!

Originally posted by Monkeyboy
Is it at the shop or home?

Where did you get it? It wasn't the one in the Monterey area was it?

i think shop now, yeah the monterey area, WHY??

Originally posted by Brad
mike was talkin about todd i think, anyway are my reasons good enough or do i gotta come up with more:D and do u need me at work tommarow/today?

The diff case bearings on the green TJ are shot. It's on jackstands blocking the M715 in. We could work on the purple 7 so yes but not untill noon. That's 4:00 am in Brad time.:flipoff2:

Hey Todd if you come by sometime soon bring that Mike jackass with you. :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Brad


i think shop now, yeah the monterey area, WHY??

Todd wanted it as lawn art.

I really almost bought that one. Did it have a motor but it wasn't under the hood?

Originally posted by Steve N


The diff case bearings on the green TJ are shot. It's on jackstands blocking the M715 in. We could work on the purple 7 so yes but not untill noon. That's 4:00 am in Brad time.:flipoff2:

Hey Todd if you come by sometime soon bring that Mike jackass with you. :flipoff2:

Funny you should mention that. Im movin to Antioch, so it'll actually be a reasonable distance :D So yep, I'll come on up after the 1st

What Brad said. Pictures tomorrow. We'll be there after noon.

Originally posted by Monkeyboy
I really almost bought that one. Did it have a motor but it wasn't under the hood?

same one monkey boy
and steve thats 4P M my time:flipoff2:

Originally posted by Brad


same one monkey boy
and steve thats 4P M my time:flipoff2:

Is that like Island time? And should I lean over and punch monkeyboy?

why? just for fun

Mike is moving to Antioch soon 3 minutes away from me. We will probably be out that way to visit.

Get a coffee maker? Got a couch for me to sit on when I hang out at the shop:D


Mike thats lawn art I could build a room in the bed of if Sara kicked me out of the house for buying :flipoff2:

Mike came to visit me here at work he brought beer :D

This server upgrade is a nightmare.

Originally posted by Monkeyboy
I really almost bought that one. Did it have a motor but it wasn't under the hood?

Funny I thought I was first in line from the board. I posted when it first went up. He said he had a local person that wanted it. He Emailed me a couple weeks ago it was available again. Yes 350 Chevy & adapter + the orignal 230 ohc. The 350 was/is iffy.

Originally posted by Steve N


Funny I thought I was first in line from the board. I posted when it first went up. He said he had a local person that wanted it. He Emailed me a couple weeks ago it was available again. Yes 350 Chevy & adapter + the orignal 230 ohc. The 350 was/is iffy.

Is the crank good? I have good 350 bad crank and rods. I hate it when a bearing spins.

we oughta check out da tree fitty and if its ok i should get that $800 truck and drop that one in instead

Coffee maker? yes, no coffee I don't drink it. Couch no, but there's a bed upstairs, but no you can't sleep there. I've got a beer fridge though. hint, hint.

You may have been first to post but I called him on the phone first:flipoff2:

My brother lives in monterey I was going to have him check it out for me.

I had the money ready to go then I decided I had better buy the gears and locker and stuff for the CJ and now the CJ is sitting doing nothing :D

What was the final price if you don't mind me asking?

Don't worry I'll find a nice couch for the shop on my way.

I'll stop at all the salvation army donation stations on the way :D

Does that mean we're taking my truck?

No idea on the 350 had a fairly fresh rebuild then it had "issues" later it was left out in the rain.

Good thing I can clean up this thread, though it's kind of like the old board. Maybe I'll leave it so the newbies can see what it used to be like around here.

Originally posted by Steve N
No idea on the 350 had a fairly fresh rebuild then it had "issues" later it was left out in the rain.

Good thing I can clean up this thread, though it's kind of like the old board. Maybe I'll leave it so the newbies can see what it used to be like around here.

I think that's a good idea. I've been missing it :D

$1100 with the 350, & adapter. He didn't seem interested in a lower price.

Originally posted by Steve N
No idea on the 350 had a fairly fresh rebuild then it had "issues" later it was left out in the rain.

Good thing I can clean up this thread, though it's kind of like the old board. Maybe I'll leave it so the newbies can see what it used to be like around here.

well illl check it out tommarow, if not i can always peice together one for cheap from auto shop even though schools out remind me to call that guy tommarow

We will get some smart ass comment about how this aint tech this belongs in chit chat .

Then we will have to explian what an M715 is.

Wait a minute I'm not explaining anything to them newbies

I had an idea.

Maybe we can set up a new section called the Newbie Motel

We can check them in but they can't check out :D

The low price was what attracted me to the deal in the first place.

Nice buy Steve.

I'm done. I still need to shower. Have fun server suckers.:flipoff2: And brad go to bed, if you're tired tomorrow I'll make you grind lot's of steel & bondo stuff.:flipoff2: :laughing:

Originally posted by Monkeyboy
We will get some smart ass comment about how this aint tech this belongs in chit chat .

Then we will have to explian what an M715 is.

Wait a minute I'm not explaining anything to them newbies

I had an idea.

Maybe we can set up a new section called the Newbie Motel

We can check them in but they can't check out :D

i think they will look at who started it, then when the people that posted joined(cept for me ;) and then forget everything and try and be cool :rolleyes: btw todd great sig, specially the last line :laughing:

Originally posted by Steve N
$1100 with the 350, & adapter. He didn't seem interested in a lower price.

Nice! Had I seen that I woulda had $$ in hand and a trailer.

Originally posted by Brad


i think they will look at who started it, then when the people that posted joined(cept for me ;) and then forget everything and try and be cool :rolleyes: btw todd great sig, specially the last line :laughing:

Sometimes its too bad the joined thing aint accurate. actually, maybe Im glad it isn't, do I really wanna know how much time I've spent screwing off here? :D Night Steve

holy crap 2 pages already:laughing:

grinding metal stuff is fun, bondo not so fun. ill be sure to take the camera and get pics tommarow:D

See ya later Steve.

I might swing by tomorrow after my used rim buying adventure in Marin.

Originally posted by Brad
holy crap 2 pages already:laughing:

grinding metal stuff is fun, bondo not so fun. ill be sure to take the camera and get pics tommarow:D

Last time I dealt with bondo I used a chisel. 2" thick is well beyond my personal tolerance for that crap

Originally posted by Monkeyboy
We will get some smart ass comment about how this aint tech this belongs in chit chat .

Then we will have to explian what an M715 is.

Wait a minute I'm not explaining anything to them newbies

I had an idea.

Maybe we can set up a new section called the Newbie Motel

We can check them in but they can't check out :D

This sort of stuff is what was cool about this board, all we need now is for some one like Ruhl to flame us for liking it with the crappy stock axles and it will really feel like old times.

Originally posted by Steve N


This sort of stuff is what was cool about this board, all we need now is for some one like Ruhl to flame us for liking it with the crappy stock axles and it will really feel like old times.

c'mon Eric! Bust out the slide rule buddy and lets show the new folk a thing or two!

Originally posted by mike


Last time I dealt with bondo I used a chisel. 2" thick is well beyond my personal tolerance for that crap

you shoulda seen the crap on my wagon, or how we did the door on my buddies brothers old honda(probly 6"s)
bondo sux balls

Originally posted by Brad


you shoulda seen the crap on my wagon, or how we did the door on my buddies brothers old honda(probly 6"s)
bondo sux balls

HAHAHAHA I did that once, reshaped the whole nose end of a quarter panel with bondo, shot it and sold it. felt kinda like packing the tranny with motor honey and sawdust :D

AHHHHH What a nostalgic thread.

2 pages and 50 replies in no time at all.

and its all me,you,mike and steve:D a whole lotta views though, i wonder if anyone will dare reply when the morning comes:p

no one will reply just read it like Sunday morning paper.
Might come down to the shop (sunday) gettin ready to finish weldin the frame up.

I want replies Come AWN!!!!!! I need some cool pic's too. If she thinks it's cool I'm in. It's kind of like a reverse case of having a wife that wants a super expensive car, that she can show her friends how rich she is. Not that Michelle wouldn't love having a new powerstroke Expedition, Having something different and cool is good too. Especially if it big and bad ass.

From just the couple of pics I've seen I think they are awesome looking. They do look way better then a suburban! I told my husband how much I liked it & then he started telling me all about them. I like the fact that you could put 44's on it with a simple spring over!!

TJ Chick

Originally posted by mike


Sometimes its too bad the joined thing aint accurate. actually, maybe Im glad it isn't, do I really wanna know how much time I've spent screwing off here? :D Night Steve


I've said all along even if you have a # lower than about 4-500 it doesn't have anything to do with your actualstart time on the boards. It used to be a big deal a few software changes/crashes/hacks ago when the users would click another 100. 400 was like :eek:


Monkeyboy, as usuall cars in front/door locked means look in back.

From the m715 zone:

If I had to do it all over again, here's what I would look for when buying an M715:

Starting from the rear:

Check rear bumper for rust on the inside
Check for original tailgate (HARD to find on M715s that were turned into fire trucks)
Check for rust in floor of bed (EASY to find on M715s that were turned into fire trucks)
Check for troop seats and rear canopy bows
Check rear wheel cylinders for leakage or frozen condition
Check rear brake shoe condition. Take the time to remove each wheel and brake drum BEFORE you buy the truck. These brake shoes AND DRUMS go bad quickly when there is mud and dirt wedged in there. (It'll cost you about $35 per axle to replace the brake shoes--If Front Line Military Vehicles still has the shoes in stock, that is. If not, other source's prices are much higher).
Check rear drive shaft/U-joints for security, dents, wear/play. I bent my shaft-$230 for a new one, $166 to rebuild the old one (including new, machined u-joints)
Check for leakage from rear differential housing & shaft
Check parking brake on transfer case for wear, and to make sure all the parts are there.
Check transfer case input and output shafts for leakage (Seals-$12.00 each)
Check rubber bushings on transfer & transmission mounts for serviceability
Check front drive shaft, short shaft and universal joints for looseness, wear and dents
Check transmission mount for serviceability (It's the 6-8 inch long flat rubber and metal piece between the bottom of the transmission and the crossmember that supports the transmission. If this is shot, the 4 WD/2WD selector handle will rub and strike the edge of the access hole in the transmission hump cover inside the cab. You will be in for a very noisy ride).
Check the condition of the clutch--Easily done by removing the bottom cover on the bellhousing.
While you've got that bellhousing cover off, check the starter gear ring on the flywheel. Replacing this gear will require removal of the flywheel. This is a major operation (at least on my truck)--You must remove the bellhousing to get the flywheel off. You must also have the flywheel off to remove the bellhousing. Get the Idea? I had to remove the entire crankshaft with the flywheel still attached. Fortunately, I was rebuilding the engine at the time.
Check the cab corners, pan, and sill (rocker) panels for rust.
Check the roll-up windows for good rubber seals and tracks (especially where the roll up window slides up and down inside a track in the fixed window. If this seal/track is shot or non-existent, an annoying rattle will result as the roll-up window rattles back and fourth in the fixed window track.--I still have not found a source for the window track seals.
Check all instrumentation for condition and accuracy.
Check for seat belts. I had to install generic ones--$35 each.
Check condition of cab canvas and snaps.
Check condition of windshield seal (between bottom of windshield and hood of truck)
Check for rust around where the brake master cylinder attaches to firewall (both inside and outside)
Check windshield wiper motors (hopefully converted to electric instead of vacuum)
Check operation of the transmission (1st gear and reverse are not synchronized)
Check for proper operation of the transfer case-High, Neutral and Low/ 2 wheel drive and 4 wheel drive. (You may need to back up a short distance to shift from 4 wheel drive back to 2 wheel drive).
Check for proper operation of the PTO for the winch. Check to ensure that wodruf (sp?) keys and set screws are in place on all the universal joints on the PTO shaft (except the extreme forward joint, which should have a special shear pin installed on the winch end). Do not allow hardware store bolts and nuts to be used anywhere on this PTO shaft.--It cost me $150 to get pulled out of a mudhole because the guy I bought the truck from didn't spend the $5 to get proper wodruf keys and set screws installed.
Check steering for looseness/play.
Check engine compression--150 is where a new/rebuilt 230 engine should be. YOU DO NOT WANT TO REBUILD THIS ENGINE--BRING A COMPRESSION TESTER WITH YOU AND TEST EACH CYLINDER TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE GOOD! I can not stress this enough. I did all the work (except the machine work) myself, and ended up spending about $800-$900 to rebuild my engine. Rebuild parts are rare, and extremely hard to find-You therefore pay through the nose for them.
Check for oil leaks especially around the timing cover-to-block seal.
Check for blue smoke/burning oil. Again, YOU DO NOT WANT TO HAVE TO REBUILD THIS ENGINE.
Check front engine mount rubber for rot/sagging/damage from petroleum products.
Check steering box for leakage.
Check all steering ball joints for play/wear.
Check front differential for leakage/shaft play.
Check front swivel balls (where the front wheels pivot for steering) for pitting and leakage.
Check front brake shoes and wheel cylinders-same as rear.
Check for a heater--it would likely have been installed from a civilian truck.
Check for radiator leakage.
Check winch for oil leakage, cable condition and proper operation (the lever on the winch engages the drum to the shaft that runs through the middle of it. By moving the lever toward the passenger's side, the drum will disengage, thereby "freewheeling" so you can pull the cable out).
Check front bumper for rust.
Check body for overall condition/rust. Pay close attention to the metal channels under the cab where it mounts to the frame. Rust flakes off inside these channels.
Check all wiring for cracking/rubbing.
Check tires for tread, dry rot, and condition of the rims. The best price I've found for new 9.00x16 military non-directional tread tires is $121 each, from Wallace Wade in Texas. Shipping cost--don't know, because my local tire dealer can get NDTs to me for $135 each.
Check front wheel hubs for security by grabbing the top of the tire and pushing and pulling it back and forth as hard as you can several times with the truck on the ground (not on jacks). If any clunking sound is heard or felt, the huge nuts inside the axle hub have backed off or are loose. This is not good, as these nuts hold the wheel onto the spindle.
I paid $3500 for my truck and it suffered from many of the above mentioned problems. I paid too much for my truck, considering what it cost to correct the problems. The only way I justify this cost is that I also got 4 spare wheels, an extra Dana 60 front end, an extra Dana 70 rear end, a spare transmission (dogged-out), a good spare transfer case, and a few boxes of spare parts. It's a great truck when properly repaired, though.

If the truck you're looking at passes all the tests above, I'd pay up to $4000 for it (if it looked and drove good). This is only MY opinion, however, and others will have different opinions. One important lesson learned: If the owner claims to have rebuilt the engine, DEMAND to see the receipts. The rebuild parts are so expensive that only a die-hard M715 fan would rebuild it. A die-hard M715 fan would also save the receipts. Anyone else is probably lying (like the guy I bought my truck from).

Several other M715 owners are active on this list and will most likely fill in any gaps and offer excellent first-hand advise. Don't hesitate to e-mail direct or post any follow-up info/questions you may have.

Hope this helps, and best of luck.

-Mark Masse
1967 Kaiser M715

m715 links
http://www.m715zone.com/ring/
http://home.off-road.com/~m726/links.html
http://www.mvdataplates.com/prod04.htm

I see you made it home in one piece. I haven't found the gages yet. I'll let you know when I do.
I think it would make the perfect tow rig if built right (and convertable too). You can't match its 'coolness' factor. Build it - let her drive it - she'll love it. There's no way you can't fall in love with them (and the attention they get).

well he found some killer pics of one that was in TTC a few years ago, right now hes thinkin
propane 350
th400
205/203 doubler
14bolt rear
60 front
redo the suspension with better springs
spring over front
shackle flip the rear
michelle was lookin at the pics of the TTC one but i left before i heard her reaction. anyways ill post pics of da m715 in a minute:D

http://dkg.elmo-the-dog.com/pictures/medium/1023673718.152.163.213.209.jpg
http://dkg.elmo-the-dog.com/pictures/medium/1023673756.152.163.213.209.jpg
http://dkg.elmo-the-dog.com/pictures/medium/1023674071.66.120.161.113.jpg
http://dkg.elmo-the-dog.com/pictures/medium/1023674131.66.120.161.113.jpg
http://dkg.elmo-the-dog.com/pictures/medium/1023674152.66.120.161.113.jpg
http://dkg.elmo-the-dog.com/pictures/medium/1023674171.66.120.161.113.jpg
http://dkg.elmo-the-dog.com/pictures/medium/1023674238.66.120.161.113.jpg

http://www.weps.alloffroad.com/images/715_driveway0001.jpg This a good enough driveway shot? 400" pontiac,SM465, detroit rear, Lincoln front, 10,000LB PTO winch....

answers to "tech" questions:


NO- the gas tank filler tube is like 4 1/2" in Diameter....
NO storage for a "Bazooka", thats where the hi-lift goes (originally the top and bows):D

Its for sale too! Located in Indiana...

Here's a build up site:
http://www.m715.com/
http://www.m715.com/images/roger_andrews_7.jpg

http://homepage.mac.com/arbore/m715/
http://homepage.mac.com/arbore/m715/pics/m715.jpg

one with half doors
http://www.metalfusionfab.com/images/products/Projects/m715-03.jpg

http://www.grimmjeepers.com/jpgs/mem9a.jpg

http://homepage.mac.com/arbore/m715/pics/fe2000/chads_and_mine_rear.jpg

uh u bored mike??:D or u really want steve to keep that thing:p

That thing is bad ass!!! :beer: Sorry I was on a roll. LOL

come awn people
WE NEED REASONS, we already got pics

Well, you could try to convince the wife with the argument that this is a rare (~22,000) vehicle that will someday surely be worth it's considerable weight in gold. So it's an investment, yeah an investment in "our" future, yeah yeah that's the ticket. :D

BTW, this argument didn't work for me.:shaking:

You can also try to play up the convertible angle. It's a ragtop, it is underpowered with the stock engine and the brakes suck. Just like an older european sports car. It's basically just a Triumph TR-6... only bigger.:D

This one didn't work either:shaking:

You can claim that it is an important piece of our country's history and it is your DUTY as an American to preserve it for future generations.:D

Nope:shaking:

Or you can just say you want to stick a Cummins Turbo Diesel in it, a 5 speed OD transmission, slap some big honkin' 42" tires on it and go scare old ladies.:D

This is what finally worked for me!:D :D :D Now I get to drive the beast every day!

Originally posted by Brad
come awn people
WE NEED REASONS, we already got pics

No you don't. If you need reasons, you don't need that vehicle. :flipoff2:

1. Own a piece of history.
2. Military vehicles are just plain cool.
3. 5/4 ton. Dana 60F and 70R stock.
4. Rag top.
5. Need a new cab/front clip of a J series truck - you've got it.
6. Everyone will get out of your way as you cruise down the road.
7. You can haul all sorts of junk in the bed.
8. You need a vehicle to drop that 500cid Caddy engine
9. If its good enough for Pewe to drive across the country, its good enough for you
10. M-725 variant would be a sweet camper.

http://www.militaryvehicles.com/jpegs/32_full.jpg

Well......

Is your wife gonna be driving this????


OR are you gonna have a talk with Mo on what to look for in a mini van?:D :flipoff2:

My Wife is going to drive this. She used to drive the trail Jeep with 36's The axle donor Jeep is too tall with 38's it was cool for a day or two then she decided it was a pain in the ass putting the kids in it. She'll drive the CJ/YJ thingie it's got 38's So yes the 715's a slam dunk as far as will she. She just needs to be convinced she has to have it. (It's looking kind of good so far, though no total buy off yet)


Mini van????????? I had one for a work car she wouldn't drive it for a dare.

BS, I bet you have a mini van:rainbow: :flipoff2:

I think a Hemi Crate motor should get dropped in it:D

A fat Jeep like that needs a elephant power plant:D

U want to buy it cause ur slowly gravitating to a large rig that is REALY offroad ready before modifications
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Well Steve if she doesn't let you keep it I might be interested in it :D
I'm going to need a tow rig some day. Might as well start building one alongside my CJ.

HMMM Cummins or Navistar Powered M715

Originally posted by Brad


you shoulda seen the crap on my wagon, or how we did the door on my buddies brothers old honda(probly 6"s)
bondo sux balls

no shit. I'm not sure what's gonna be more fun, gettin all the bondo off or fixin the swiss cheeze rear corner :flipoff2:

mike - another soon to be Antiochian :rolleyes: huh? Maybe one of these days I'll have to crawl out from underneath my rock and meet some you guys. :beer:

Originally posted by Monkeyboy
Well Steve if she doesn't let you keep it I might be interested in it :D
I'm going to need a tow rig some day. Might as well start building one alongside my CJ.

HMMM Cummins or Navistar Powered M715


Keep dreaming:rolleyes: :flipoff2: :laughing: