Seems that I have twisted another rear axle a bit (only a little bit less than .02in in the splines). I going to pull the other side axle today to check it as well but Im guessing its gone as well. Sort of gave them a really hard time on my last outing. You know the story POS rig with big arse tyres carnt drive a section that a zook on 31s and a bobtailed rangie ute ute on 35s drove with about 50 people watching. My excuse was that im about 2feet wider than the zook and 1foot more than the rangie and Im sticking to it. :flipoff2: Well I drove it in the end - max revs in first, side step the clutch and kept it planted. Amazing how much grip the 42s get once you spin them up till they start smoking. Would have been good to watch.

Anyway getting second hand scout axles here is getting a bit scarce so it looks like I got to get new ones.

Do I need custom ones? or can I just buy them off the shelf and get them sent from the US?

A mate here gets all the pro-comp stuff (I think heres a distributer here). Do pro comp make axles?? Are they any good??

I dont really need the ultimate axles cause Im going to do the d70 anyway but this will be some time (as in months) away yet.

:beer:

Sam

they are off the shelf ones, and you shouldnt need custom axles. in a few weeks i will have a scout D44 rearend in the garage that i wont be using, i would trade you the shafts from it for something.

Scout spares are getting rare here! A used set will run you about 75.00-100.00 US. These guys make the best aftermarket IMO.
http://www.dutchmanms.com/4_axles.html

Originally posted by Old Scout
Scout spares are getting rare here! A used set will run you about 75.00-100.00 US. These guys make the best aftermarket IMO.
http://www.dutchmanms.com/4_axles.html

hey OS how much can i sell a Scout rearend for that has been refurbed and has a welded 3.08 carrier in it?

Refferb? What new axles bearings? It's a 3.07 not a 3.08 and with those gears not much. 100.00-125 if your lucky. I have one that has 4.09 gears in it and couldn't get 125.00 for it! I put disc brakes on it, to make it more attractive to the less skilled wheeler. I will get 400.00 for it no problem!

Originally posted by Old Scout
Refferb? What new axles bearings? It's a 3.07 not a 3.08 and with those gears not much. 100.00-125 if your lucky. I have one that has 4.09 gears in it and couldn't get 125.00 for it! I put disc brakes on it, to make it more attractive to the less skilled wheeler. I will get 400.00 for it no problem!

nice, how hard and expensive of a job is it to put disks on it? swapping the gears is no biggie, i could have my bud at the garage do it for maybe $20.

Scout II rear disks

F150 rotors 5x5.5"
new long wheel studs
GM mid size calipers (Camaro,Firebird)
A&A Caliper mounts
soft and hard lines

Do some hard shopping and have some of the junk laying around 100.00. Go to pic and pull and get it all for $125-150.00, buy all new or rebuilt with no cores to turn in $250-300.

Originally posted by Old Scout
Scout spares are getting rare here! A used set will run you about 75.00-100.00 US. These guys make the best aftermarket IMO.
http://www.dutchmanms.com/4_axles.html

Thanks for the link OS. A mob in OZ here imports blanks and splines them. Ill chase them for a price comparo.

A used set here is about $300 If I can find them.

Any idea if the Dutchman axles are stronger than stock or should I really be chasing some 4340 axles (like warn???) and make the exercise worthwile.

The only reason I think I should be going HD is that these axles are going to have to live with 42in tyres for some time yet cause the guy thats taking them off me (when I do the d60/d70)is gunna run 42s as well.

Sam

look into warns full floating conversion kit, it will make a serious difference in the strength and you will get uprated axles with the whole shebang. if you want, im sure someone in the US (like me) would buy the kit for you and ship it to you if it would make a difference in cost because of the exchange rate. of course that person would have to be reimbursed the money afterwards :flipoff2:

Originally posted by 9-Volt
look into warns full floating conversion kit, it will make a serious difference in the strength and you will get uprated axles with the whole shebang. if you want, im sure someone in the US (like me) would buy the kit for you and ship it to you if it would make a difference in cost because of the exchange rate. of course that person would have to be reimbursed the money afterwards :flipoff2:

Can I get cro-mo axles without going full floating. Full floating would be nice but I dont think it would be much stronger for the extra $$$.

OK now I really need some axles. Just pulled the outher axle and its real bad. I dont think I will put this one back in.

Sam

Originally posted by Strange Rover
Any idea if the Dutchman axles are stronger than stock or should I really be chasing some 4340 axles (like warn???) and make the exercise worthwile.

.

Sam

From there site:
Material

Most stock (OEM) axles are made from 1039 material and are induction (case) hardened, have a .150 case depth, and a hardness of 52-54 Rockwell "C" scale. We use (1) piece forgings made from 1541-H material, a case depth of .300-.350, and a hardness of 57-60 Rc. The result of these upgrades yields a "Stronger than Stock" street and strip alloy axle. The hard case and soft core design enable the shaft to bend, flex and spring back. Properly executed, both chrome-moly "thru hardened" and an upgraded "induction hardened" shaft can achieve the same results in strength in the critical areas of torsional strength and life cycles. The design of an induction hardened shaft usually yields more bending (life) cycles than a thru hardened shaft.

Thanks again OS I just had a look at that page and they do say something about the 4340 axles that they make for the front only so maybe the 1541 axles is as good as I can get.

Spoke to this guy down here and they use Superior blanks (which have already been hardened) and then cut the splines (one at a time).

He can do me a pair for $500AUS which I think is bloody cheap (cheaper than importing the dutchman ones).

Are Superior axles any good????? Or are they all the same axles as everyone else ie everyone uses the same (spicer??) blanks?

Sam

Let me fill you guys in on a little secret.

Dutchman made my UJ front axles, from WARN blanks.

Following the logic back one more step...

Dutchman *makes* WARN blanks.

I can give them a call tomorrow if you give me some specs StrangeRover.

Later,

Michael

Originally posted by Serious One
Let me fill you guys in on a little secret.

Dutchman made my UJ front axles, from WARN blanks.

Following the logic back one more step...

Dutchman *makes* WARN blanks.

I can give them a call tomorrow if you give me some specs StrangeRover.

Later,

Michael

The axles are out of a 1979 scout - its a d44 rear with 30 spline axles.

They have a listing and price for these on there web site and they will be made of 1541.

I dont know if you can get any more info than this but if you do call them ask them whats the difference between theirs and superiors. Cause I can easily get some Superior axles made here in OZ so they would want to be a lot better to make it worth the extra effort of getting them from the US (and $$$)

Sam

just got sent this link via the D90 list, interesting and pretty sexy!!! (the axle that is!)

http://www.killeraxles.com/html/axles.html


jamie

Dutchman *makes* WARN blanks.

No they don't.

Warn sell long blanks, that can be cut and splined by a competant shop, like Dutchman.

Dutchman also provide a shaft of theor own, very similar in spec to the Warn shafts.

Notice I said "provide", not make, because truthfully, niether Warn nor Dutchman actually "make" axles (as in Forge them)

Just FYI