Here's not what I think is a stupid question for all you Rock gods.
Has anyone posted or thought to give advice about what to do if there was a wild fire on the trail? I was talking to my husband about that the other day. Maybe it would be a good idea if there was some safety guidlines posted on this site, especially if someone did not know what to do or where to go to be safe!
I think we all need to be safe out there.:mad3:

uh, ok psychobitch :rolleyes:
maybe you could start by having a little COMMON SENSE ON THE TRAIL, ie not leaving fires burning, not smoking, etc. and after that, if there is a fire, get on Ch. 9 of the CB ASAP, and then get the fawk outta there and alert the FD!!!

Ever see dante's peak?

uh, duh!!! NO sh t! But did you ever think there are some that DON"T know. I am only suggesting SAFETY here!

Yeah, I'd like to know if it is possible to get the fire shelters that the Smokejumpers use when cought behind the fire lines. The thought of behing cutoff from both ends of the trail by a fast moving fire is kinda scary.

eric

Originally posted by 9-Volt
uh, ok psychobitch :rolleyes:
maybe you could start by having a little COMMON SENSE ON THE TRAIL, ie not leaving fires burning, not smoking, etc. and after that, if there is a fire, get on Ch. 9 of the CB ASAP, and then get the fawk outta there and alert the FD!!!

I think she meant what to do IF THERE WAS A FIRE. We all know how to start a forest fire but most civilians don't know how to read a forest fire. I have been caught in one and watched another burn across the hills here in So Cal in a matter of hours. The main thing that most people under estimate is how quickly they get going and how fast they move. If you get yourself cut off, you are fawked. Isn't Toyota Jim a forest fire fighter?

Originally posted by Alpo23
Yeah, I'd like to know if it is possible to get the fire shelters that the Smokejumpers use when cought behind the fire lines. The thought of behing cutoff from both ends of the trail by a fast moving fire is kinda scary.

eric

natural selection, stupid people are supposed to die:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Originally posted by Alpo23
Yeah, I'd like to know if it is possible to get the fire shelters that the Smokejumpers use when cought behind the fire lines. The thought of behing cutoff from both ends of the trail by a fast moving fire is kinda scary.

eric

I don't think those shelters have too good of a record.

We lost some firefighter last year up in the 30 mile fire. They were up on a rocky slope and it acted like a chiminey. Poor souls. They had shelters,but they couldn't get them to seal on the rocks, the one guy that survived jumped out of his shelter and ran down to the river. They all had training on the proper use, and the leaders had the experience, but it all got FUBAR in a hurry.

I've never been to the Con, won't be able to make it for couple of years, so I can't offer any advice other than common sense prevails. That and what SeaBass said:D :D :D

Originally posted by SeaBass44


natural selection, stupid people are supposed to die:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

:eek: :flipoff2: :D

Time will tell.......:p


Eric

Originally posted by Magoo


I don't think those shelters have too good of a record.

We lost some firefighter last year up in the 30 mile fire. They were up on a rocky slope and it acted like a chiminey. Poor souls. They had shelters,but they couldn't get them to seal on the rocks, the one guy that survived jumped out of his shelter and ran down to the river. They all had training on the proper use, and the leaders had the experience, but it all got FUBAR in a hurry.

I've never been to the Con, won't be able to make it for couple of years, so I can't offer any advice other than common sense prevails. That and what SeaBass said:D :D :D

I heard about that tragidy, Damn shame.
Shortly after that happened I think '60 Minutes' did a story on an inventer who has been hitting his head up against the bureaucratic wall trying to get his better design even considered.


Eric

Exactly, head for some water. DON'T panic, its easy to do. runnin will just make you tired. Never seen the rubi, but I have seen pic, lots of rocks. You should be relatively safe if you find shelter under the rocks where nothing will burn around ya. Watch for falling limbs and the like. Running up hill is more than likely just give you time. alot of times the fire will run up hill, not down.


Yeah, there is saw some wicked shit at the 30 mile fire.

Originally posted by Alpo23


:eek: :flipoff2: :D

Time will tell.......:p


Eric :question: :question: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Originally posted by SeaBass44
:question: :question: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Ain't nothing.......:)


Eric

hey she may be right last year when we got to the top off cadilac we were looking over the vista and saw a fire starting down by the little lake you can see if you look down and to the right of rubicon springs . We called it in and the forest service thought we were talking about that fire near hell hole . we had to argue with them that the fire was at the rubicon and in about 30 minutes there was a spotter and 3 bombers and a chopper . we left but the fire had climbed by then almost to the road out. That fire spread way faster that I had any idea that they could. we could have gone back to where there were only rocks so we would have been fine but we would have been trapped until the fire went though.

yeah they can move helllla quick sometimes.

Originally posted by 9-Volt
uh, ok psychobitch :rolleyes:
maybe you could start by having a little COMMON SENSE ON THE TRAIL, ie not leaving fires burning, not smoking, etc. and after that, if there is a fire, get on Ch. 9 of the CB ASAP, and then get the fawk outta there and alert the FD!!!

For a guy with so many posts, thats the best you have to offer. It has been said already, but in a fire MOST if not ALL will panic, even 9-volt. If you are stuck in the middle, it is not common sense to some what to do. Hell, look at all the idiots around us in our daily live. Thay are actually allowed to breath. So a little how to on such a subject would be good. Given the High alert status, This is a great subject. We as humans will never know TO MUCH.

I for one would just head for the granite slabs. No trees, no burn.

John

In addition to my fire extinguisher, I always cary my fire box containing a round point shovel, double bit axe, pulaski, a mcloud, and if it's bad conditions, my backpack H2O pump (make sure all tools are sharp and protected). As a logger, I'm required to cary these things in my work truck anytime I'm in the woods so it's not a big deal to throw it into my rig for the trail. I also cary my fire pack with my Nomex suit, shake and bake tent, water, salt pills, and some power bars. I'm not a firefighter by trade but I've still got my fire card with the CDF and my heavy equipt. card for fires.

i have 6 years as a fire fighter fighting wildland fires. my advise would be to either find a huge clearing like the slabs or get out your spare tire and float it in one of the lakes. the reason for the make shift raft is you might be there for a while and i would hate to see ya drown. we had to recertify in the baked potatoe sacks ( fire shelters ) every year. i can tell you that they have an exelent survival rate when used properly. they have saved more lifes than lost by a wide margin.

Good point on the spare tire as a life boat. :D I too have to recertify yearly in the shake and bake tent and while they don't look like much, they really can save your ass. They also work well as an emergency blanket/shelter for hypothermia.