1. how much does a flange axle rear d60 weigh?

2. how much does a ff 60 weigh

3. how much does a front non dually 60 weigh ?

based on the front (complete with steering), and the ff rear, that took three of us to pull out of the bed of my pickup, I would say way too much.:flipoff2:

Semi-float- Tera60 w/ .250" CRMO tubes- 375 lbs

Front-Dyna 60 w/ 35sp outers- appox- 550

Originally posted by CHOKEu
Semi-float- Tera60 w/ .250" CRMO tubes- 375 lbs

Front-Dyna 60 w/ 35sp outers- appox- 550

No wonder my back is killing me!:eek: :smokin:

Originally posted by CHOKEu
Semi-float- Tera60 w/ .250" CRMO tubes- 375 lbs



who built it? my rear only weighs 250 lbs.

of course i am using gun drilled axles, aluminum hubs, and a cromo spool and cromo .250 tubes. oh ya disk brakes and aluminum calipers with willwood racing vented rotors.

sounds like you shaved an easy 125lbs.......and shaved a few frogskins out of you wallet at the same time:flipoff2:

I could pick up the Dana rear or front(w/out hubs/rotors) very easily. Id say they were maybe 250-300lbs. I was running on pure adrenalin then tho, trying to finish up my project sooo....:beer:

pic of the FF aluminum hubs and steel drive plate

300m axles getting made. note mine are on top of the stack. they are 40 spline . check out the 46 spline one under it.

stock spindles and my spindles made from cro-molly. also rear aluminum hub

note the bearing size. :eek:

sandy cone doing his magic

fat bastard getting a lesson on hobbing splines on a axle

housing with cro-molly spindles and .250 cromo tubes and cro-molly 4 link brackets after final welding

and finally taking my baby home. :D

Looks great. Piece of art rather than axle. What are you going to run up front?

That is some very nice shit.

Originally posted by TDW
Looks great. Piece of art rather than axle. What are you going to run up front?

a camo 60 with all the same stuff with the addition of a 40 spline ARB and 40 spline 1.75 300m stub axles. WAIT TILL YOU SEE THAT MAGIC :D

target weight....................under 350 lbs

Originally posted by camo
stock spindles and my spindles made from cro-molly. also rear aluminum hub

note the bearing size. :eek:

SHIT...........i'd give my left nut to see you break that !

so what's up with that toy front sitting there fawker?? don't tell me you are going back to birfs?? :flipoff2:

Very sweet camo!!!

Looks like Longfields are in order for that front end, huh? :D

Jay

Good god that is some nice work! Guess this down time is worth the wait huh? Can't wait to see it all completed.

NICE stuff..target weight of the stack of benjamin's needed to pay for that work a hair under 350 lbs

Originally posted by camo
stock spindles and my spindles made from cro-molly. also rear aluminum hub

I dig the beautiful work... but I got a question, too.

It looks, from the pics, that you've got some giant wheel bearings. But they're really close (1.5") to each other? The stock (I'm assuming that's a D60 spindle) bearings are smaller, granted, but they're also much farther apart, so they spread the load more.

I know I've seen some problems with Ford TTB front ends (I know this is much burlier, but still) where the wheel bearings are big enough for the load, but they're so close together that they get trashed fast by side loading anyway.

So, question is, was that even a concern here, or is it pretty much a given that those giant wheel bearings will take care of it?

I'm definitely jealous... no way I could afford that front end, but it sure is pretty.

Sick, that's all I can say.

Did the axle cost it's weight in gold?

Originally posted by camo
and finally taking my baby home. :D
Camo will you adopt me? I'll even call you dad:D
BADASS!@!

Just weighed a 60-2 semi with 35 spline shafts and drums. Factory J10 setup, 240 to 250 lbs. In the past have weighed front dodge 60's at around 525

you should have him build another to hang in your house! that thing is a beautiful piece of art.

pufft, and how this supped to be better then my d44?

Did you get any pics of Sandy gun drilling them? i would love to see that


BTW :flipoff2: :D:D

another pic

Were those Pics taken at the super secret skunkworks Laboratory of the Glitter Factory:flipoff2:

Looks like desert racing stuff to me.

See it all the time on Pro trucks just not so much on rock crawlers

Originally posted by Scott@Rockstomper



So, question is, was that even a concern here, or is it pretty much a given that those giant wheel bearings will take care of it?

I'm definitely jealous... no way I could afford that front end, but it sure is pretty.

the hub is the same hub sandy builds for the desert race trucks. he has well over 1000 sets in the field and they do not fail. even when used on 800 hp trophy trucks that have 36" of wheel travel and do 140 mph across the desert.

it is also a very similar design to a nascar winston cup hub that is run at 200 mph with out failure. and those guys really side load them.

Originally posted by jdjanda


Did the axle cost it's weight in gold?

nearly :D

i will give you a hint. the axle shafts alone are 750 a pair. ouch !

Originally posted by Monkeyboy


Looks like desert racing stuff to me.

See it all the time on Pro trucks just not so much on rock crawlers

pics are in sandy cones shop. he is a friend of mine and lives 5 minutes from my house. he is the guy that builds alot of the desert race stuff.

FYI

sandy has personaly won :

baja 1000 3 times
parker 400 2 times
riverside 2
and the baja 500 once.

i doubt you can even find a major race run that the winner does not use some of his products.

Originally posted by camo




i will give you a hint. the axle shafts alone are 750 a pair.


:eek: You bring new definition to the old "you wanna play, you gotta pay" motto.

OK, I've got to ask (see newbie)....but camo what do you do for a living, those camo 60s are killer!

Originally posted by Tron
OK, I've got to ask (see newbie)....but camo what do you do for a living, those camo 60s are killer!

i am a product tester for all sorts of rockcrawler parts. it is my job to break the unbreakable. :D

actually i own a company that manufactures a large part of the worlds glitter supply.

Originally posted by camo

actually i own a company that manufactures a large part of the worlds glitter supply.

Thanks to camo here, all us guys have justifiable cause to stare at young girls' chests!

cm "like a deer in headlights" k

P.S. A detailed writeup on those axles would be the schnizzle bam schnip schnap schnap.

full write up will be done when i get the front end done.

I'm jealous! Get it:skull:

matt-:flipoff2:

Originally posted by camo



actually i own a company that manufactures a large part of the worlds glitter supply.

sounds like a line i would use to get in a girls pants.

Originally posted by camo
and finally taking my baby home. :D

Camo,

First of all FUCKIN' A!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

then one question. What's the dealio with the THREE bolt axle flange mount, is that sufficient? Just asking since even lockout hubs usually use 5-6 bolts??

Originally posted by Cliffhanger


Camo,

First of all FUCKIN' A!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

then one question. What's the dealio with the THREE bolt axle flange mount, is that sufficient? Just asking since even lockout hubs usually use 5-6 bolts??

that part held on with the three bolts is only a hub cap. the big round gold part is the drive plate the axle attaches to. all 6 wheel studs go thru it.

In that last PIC doesn't it look like the housing is warped and aren't those mounts welded on backwards?
I do like the aerodynamic gusset, that is just sick.






Camo :flipoff2: you bastard.

Oh yea get me a piece of that stuff from Sandy about 30" long.

Originally posted by camo


that part held on with the three bolts is only a hub cap. the big round gold part is the drive plate the axle attaches to. all 6 wheel studs go thru it.


Ahh, That makes sense...sweet axle BTW, incase you missed that in the first post of mine:beer:

so whats the deal on that yota axle?????????

Originally posted by Air Bag
In that last PIC doesn't it look like the housing is warped and aren't those mounts welded on backwards?
I do like the aerodynamic gusset, that is just sick.

HA........

WOW!!

That is some super-cool shiznit right there.

Simply :smokin:

That's some blingin' stuff. I've never seen axle parts so shiny. I guess I've never even seen them new. Did you win the fawkin lottery or was Sandy just feeling generous

Why do you feel the need to flaunt all of your kick ass parts in front of the less fortunate(ie poor ass) wheelers around here. :flipoff2: I still cant get the pic of your christmas tree out of my head.

Thats a fawking sweet axle, cant wait to see the first rubber side up pics of the buggy.

Oh yeah, do you need anyone to sweep the glitter off the floors for about 100K/year:question:

Or i could test the sparkle factor on womens breasts to make sure patrons of the gentlemens clubs get the full effect??? Its all about quality control:smokin:

Originally posted by Air Bag
In that last PIC doesn't it look like the housing is warped and aren't those mounts welded on backwards?
I do like the aerodynamic gusset, that is just sick.

.Oh yea get me a piece of that stuff from Sandy about 30" long.

part one :flipoff2: LOL


the 4 link truss is made from 2.5" x 1" .049 4130 cromolly aero tubing. ( it is wing shaped. ) it was about $16 per foot

ok just for fun i called dyna trac and here is what i could get:


hp 60
62" wide
.500 mild steel axle tubes
stock gm calipers
stock gm rotors
stock 35 spline axles
stock steel full float hubs

weight 450 pounds
$4200


how much more would you pay for mine ?

NONE!! I think you have probably more money into just one axle than I have into my whole truck? Thats just to crazy for my blood.

Looks sick though now lets see it in action:flipoff2:

Originally posted by camo
How much more would you pay for mine ?
Depends. Am I using your wallet, or mine?

NICE!!!! Kinda going to make the rest of your rig look like a TURD don'tcha think...... What a waste of axels. better send them up to me....:flipoff2: :p :flipoff2: :smokin:

camo's new shit is the way to go. weight=horsepower.
Nice to know someone's thinking.:smokin:

Camo,
All that new bling bling swag looks cool, and its good to see you staying with the :rainbow: color scheme,....but since I have still have some of my daughters college fund that I havent spent yet, do you think you could price me up, something along the same line,.....but not quite so heavy. Im thinking "Titanium". One color for all the components will be fine, I want to keep the price down.:rolleyes:

Are you gonna have that thing ready to wheel by the 4th?

camo how did you get into the glidder business anyway?????? just wondering


Cliff

Originally posted by H8monday
Camo,
All that new bling bling swag looks cool, and its good to see you staying with the :rainbow: color scheme,....but since I have still have some of my daughters college fund that I havent spent yet, do you think you could price me up, something along the same line,.....but not quite so heavy. Im thinking "Titanium". One color for all the components will be fine, I want to keep the price down.:rolleyes:

Are you gonna have that thing ready to wheel by the 4th?



why send the kids to harvard when you can get an axle like this? hell the local junior college is just fine. order one up :flipoff2:

i will be wheeling this weekend.

Originally posted by e cliff
camo how did you get into the glidder business anyway?????? just wondering


Cliff

that is a story best told over a few beers sitting around a camp fire. :D

hey , great work and great axle , but one boombastic question -
* where can you find a locker for 40 or 46 spline axle shaft ???

Recently there was a posst about solid stock vs. hollow. How do you feel those gun drilled axles are going to hold up? Would they be as strong as a 35 spline chromo axle? Who makes a 40 spline locker/spool? That is an ass load of cash but if i had the means i would try to build something one of a kind too.

Originally posted by ido
a locker for 40 or 46 spline axle shaft ???

you don't "find" them anywhere. you build them. we even built new side gears for my front 40 spline ARB.

Originally posted by Brawler
Recently there was a posst about solid stock vs. hollow. How do you feel those gun drilled axles are going to hold up? Would they be as strong as a 35 spline chromo axle? Who makes a 40 spline locker/spool? That is an ass load of cash but if i had the means i would try to build something one of a kind too.



lots of people make 40 spline spools. sandy cone,summers brothers, mark williams just to name a few.

sandy is the only guy i know who will do a 40 spline ARB though.

according to sandys caluclations for axles made from the same material.



30 spline solid to 40 spline gun drilled = 231 strength increase

35 spline solid to 40 spline gun drilled = 50 strength increase

its all about diameter.








before someone else does " thats what she said"

Questions, please, Camo ...

Sorry if I missed it but which brand pumpkin did you go with?

And how much weight savings over a shaved OEM HP 60 pumpkin?

BTW: Fawk'in beautiful!:emb:

i'm waitin for pics of the front axle before i blow my load.:D very nice axle.:beer:

Couple questions for you Camo:

How wide is it?

Also, interesting link setup, what is the vertical seperation of the upper and lower link mounts on the axle?

:eek: Words can't express how I feel, I think I'm going to send you a Hallmark card.:flipoff2:

Originally posted by Jaffer
Questions, please, Camo ...

Sorry if I missed it but which brand pumpkin did you go with?

And how much weight savings over a shaved OEM HP 60 pumpkin?

BTW: Fawk'in beautiful!:emb:

i used a tera housing. if i remember correctly it weighed about 70 lbs. i think it actually weighs more than a dana unit.

Originally posted by Beartrack
Couple questions for you Camo:

How wide is it?

Also, interesting link setup, what is the vertical seperation of the upper and lower link mounts on the axle?

62"

about 6"

all that built rear and :eek: hows the front

That's not an axle, it's ART!

That thing is trick, and light!

I think your going to need the NOS to blow that thing up!

Originally posted by BJ On Roids
all that built rear and :eek: hows the front

camo, care to answer that question? :laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing:

Originally posted by Lance


camo, care to answer that question? :laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing:

:flipoff2: currently using a toy front with lonfields. but i am in the prosses of building a camo 60 front that will make the rear end look like it was whittled from a stick.

CAMO,

Nice. But you know that already.

Ok So when I hit it big in Atlantic City.... I'll call you and you can spec me out 2 of them too. :D

Very impressive. Got to love strong and light. Just like me. :D

will sandy make these 40 spline arb side gears for anyone, and how much?

how about a 33 spline 44 side gear for an arb?

ya he will make them for anybody. i am not sure if he has a 33 spline broach. i know he has a 35 but i don't know if a 35 spline axle will fit in a 44 ARB


i will ask him tomorrow if he has a 33 spline broach

glitter?
no shit!?

god damn, i built my ff 35 spline 60 w/ disk brakes for a little more than the cost of ONE of those axle shafts, RIDICULOUS but cool

I wish I had a CNC Machine in my garage

project up date:

it is hung................or was that stacked. :D

Those things are NICE!!!.......and BIG!!!!......I like stuff that's anodized!!

i like how the bathing suit sets off the colors of the anodized parts very well, or maybe it's the other way around.....
:D

WOW nice............ ]

I mean FAWKIN NICE


just a question with the money spent in that why not four wheel steering ... or portal axles..... why not make a 400 lb glittered portal axle???????????

NICE

Originally posted by dangerranger33


just a question with the money spent in that why not four wheel steering ... or portal axles.....




i just don't need 4 wheel steering. my rig has enuff levers in it as it is. :D one more would just confuse me.

ya a tricked out portal like the avalanche high mark would be econimical :D

camo what is the total cost on thoes things?

Originally posted by rochog
camo what is the total cost on thoes things?

the wife or the axle ? LOL :flipoff2:

The reason Lisa is looking at the axle like that is because Camo had to leave his first born son with Sandy to cover the cost of the axle.

It was a better choice than an arm and a leg. You can always make another one that will look just like him.

Originally posted by camo


who built it? my rear only weighs 250 lbs.

of course i am using gun drilled axles, aluminum hubs, and a cromo spool and cromo .250 tubes. oh ya disk brakes and aluminum calipers with willwood racing vented rotors.


Yeah, that cromo steel is alot lighter that mild steel!:rolleyes:

I've had basically the same rearend as that for two years now, but I built it my self, using sandy's parts, guess I have been too busy fabbing than showing it off on the internet.

Originally posted by GOAT1

I've had basically the same rearend as that for two years now, but I built it my self, using sandy's parts, guess I have been too busy fabbing than showing it off on the internet.

Too bad you were too busy fabbing to share.

I'd say you're equally as busy; You both might be busy fabbing but you're busy being a dick while camo's busy posting pics....:flipoff2:

So I'm a dick for not having the time to post pictures of my work.
Actually pig pen has posted some pictures before, I'll have him post some more when he gets a chance, unless he feels like being a dick today.

Originally posted by GOAT1
So I'm a dick for not having the time to post pictures of my work.


No, you're a dick for trying to fart on Camo's thread. No one cares if you were born with it up your ass first. Camo is happy and wanted to share it with us, this way, you Newbies don't have to write a post saying "Hey Camo, what kind of axle is that in your rig?" Go back to fabbing.:flipoff2:

Hahaha this is hilarious. Everyone bitching about him being a dick when at least half of this board is filled w/assholes flaming and being dicks all the damn time! Yet you don't jump on them. He's just trying to be part of the "In Crowd" :)
haha
bob
btw sweet axle ya got there camo

Originally posted by camo
. i know he has a 35 but i don't know if a 35 spline axle will fit in a 44 ARB


My buddie's company in Rapid City, SD called Maxle Engineering is building Dana 44s with 60 outers, and Dana 50 guts. You can get spools, ARBs, and the OX locker in 35spl for a D50. I thenk the www is maxle.com.

Originally posted by RockJeep
Hahaha this is hilarious. Everyone bitching about him being a dick when at least half of this board is filled w/assholes flaming and being dicks all the damn time! Yet you don't jump on them. He's just trying to be part of the "In Crowd" :)
haha
bob
btw sweet axle ya got there camo

Actually, I do! Watch my posts, I'm like a vigilante jumping in to protect the Good. Besides, he's not just "trying to be part of the in crowd," he's trying to belittle camo by saying he's been there done that. There's as many posers on this board as there are dicks. I say, Show me, or Blow me. I'm a dick, too!

Originally posted by twistedmetal


No, you're a dick for trying to fart on Camo's thread. No one cares if you were born with it up your ass first. Camo is happy and wanted to share it with us, this way, you Newbies don't have to write a post saying "Hey Camo, what kind of axle is that in your rig?" Go back to fabbing.:flipoff2:

Relax dude, dont get pissed about it. Maybe you should hit that bottle in front of you.

I was comenting on the fact that when some guys post pics of the stuff they buy, they get ripped apart and treated like some rich a-hole who never turns a wrench, while camo spends twice what he would spend at dynatrac and is treated as a god. I think it's cool that camo wants the most bitch'n stuff under his rig, hopefully it will actually bring technology to this hobby, and it's better that some of the hacked sh*t i've seen out there. The whole thread seems a little pretentious, that's all.

Yep, I'll give you that. I guess I just don't have that whole "I don't have the money that you do, so I'll just hate you and bag on your shiat" thing in me, and was assuming you did. I apologize.
But, let's just accept it for what it is: a very sweet and purty axle. I really don't feel that it will take him any further than my disc braked, 35 spline, spooled, mildly shaved rear 60 that I have less than a grand into will:D , but it IS still a cool axle. I also don't know if the camo paint goes well with the shiny outers, but that's his faux pau!

Hey, Camo? I was wondering(it's hard to tell in pics) what size those rear rod ends were? They look like 1" or 7/8." Also, have you had any bitches about the rear Johnny's failing?

"ya a tricked out portal like the avalanche high mark would be econimical"

I bet both my C303s will be more economical than the shinny now camo painted 60 rear.

But rust is my glitter


:flipoff2: :emb:

Ron

Originally posted by GOAT1
Actually pig has posted some pictures before, I'll have him post some more when he gets a chance, unless he feels like being a dick today.

No dude.......I feel like being a dick today.:flipoff2:
This is why I like like the BB. Glad to see we are gettin fired up here!

Originally posted by GOAT1



while camo spends twice what he would spend at dynatrac and is treated as a god. I think it's cool that camo wants the most bitch'n stuff under his rig, hopefully it will actually bring technology to this hobby, and it's better that some of the hacked sh*t i've seen out there. The whole thread seems a little pretentious, that's all.

actually my 60 was about a grand more than the stock dynatrac axle i speced out at the top of this page. for me it was an easy choice. since i knew what i wanted but also know the limits of my fab skills there was no way i was going to spend 4k on a stock dynatrac axle ( which is actually a nice axle ) when i could have a very bad ass racing quality cone for slightly more.

I was sent a special message to post these pics.
http://www.polyperformance.com/a003.jpg
http://www.polyperformance.com/a004.jpg
http://www.polyperformance.com/DSCN00131.JPG
GOT GUN DRILLED ???

Ok camo don't get me wrong that is one sick axle. But I don't know that even you could break a Hy-tuf 35 spline axle. Chromo tubes! I can see the use when you are jumping dunes but on a rock crawler? Gun drilled 40 spline? Where is the practical benefit in an axle where the RandP will go before a 35 spline chomo shaft?

I mean for 5 grand I could have TWO SETS of portals with discs or one SET with Hy-tuff inners, cryoed RandP, spur gears, and Carrier and hardened cvs and a bunch of cash left over.

Like I said its really nice, I guess what I am saying is if I was spending 5k on a rear axle the thing would be something other than a common RC 60, even if it is a really sick RC Dana 60.

Ron

Originally posted by PIG
I was sent a special message to post these pics.
http://www.polyperformance.com/a003.jpg
http://www.polyperformance.com/a004.jpg
http://www.polyperformance.com/DSCN00131.JPG
GOT GUN DRILLED ???

The are the pics of the rear end I built for my jeep. The center section is a RC 60, that I re-tubed with 4130 tubing. Had they had tera 60s then I would have started with one. I bought and/or traded for the hubs, spindles, and rear cover from Sandy Cone, and used his big ass press to do the re-tubing and his alignment bar to weld the spindles on after all the welding was done. I did all the welding and fabrication, and I even made the axles while I was at SAW, they are 300M, gun-drilled. I turned them, hobbed them and even heat treated them myself. I guess camo has one up on me as they are only 35 spline, because I wanted and already had a detroit locker, I didn't want to lose strength in the case by boring out to use 40 sline. I also made the custom drive plates that use 1-ton locking hubs (another reason to stay with 35 spline), I am flat towing now as I cannot afford the Ford Super-duty and trailer. If there is any doubts about the locking hubs, I also made some solid drive gears. And yes, it is overkill for a rock-crawler but I also built it for pre-running, jumping in the dunes and maybe we will race the baja 1k in the sportsman class one of these day's.

goat.

i wish i had the skill to do it myself. nice job on yours. i learned a ton watching sandy build mine.

evil.

i went with the 40 spline for 2 reasons.
1. cost the same as 35 spline and a drilled 40 spline weighs the same as a non drilled 35.


2. they are bigger than yours. :flipoff2: actually i just wanted the biggest and baddest axle i could get.

i have seen enuff stock portal axles break to know that the only way i am gonna put a portal under my rig is to build a custom one like the high mark. trust me i wanted a portal but between the cost for 2 tricked out portals and the cost of building a new chassis that would allow me to take advantage of them it was more than i wanted to spend.

Originally posted by GOAT1

The are the pics of the rear end I built for my jeep. The center section is a RC 60, that I re-tubed with 4130 tubing. Had they had tera 60s then I would have started with one.

The reason I made that "sharing" crack was because I am spending a small fortune importing a couple of RC 60's from back East.
Had I seen these (new to me) other options in time I may have reconsidered and just started out with one of the new aftermarket pumpkins, saving me a lot of hassle and re-tubing work I most probably have to farm out of town ... adding even more shipping costs since there are no heavy duty axel shops around here.
I thought the whole purpose of the BBSs was to inform and share info ... but apparently some feel they are too good for that sort of thing.
So, thanks for nothing. hot shot ... :nuke:

goat

why the seal surface on your axle? also saw your spare drive plate at sandys. cool idea. do you think you will crack the cast cover ? any plans on building a fabricated one ?

Hats off, Goat1! Looks sweet. I remember seeing the pics of your say bar/control arms. Had a chance to test them out? But I had one question for you. Why in the hell do you have a picture of my wife on your wall?:mad:

All this talk about dicks and assholes has got me all excited!:flipoff2:

Me like all the axles! All very nice!:eek:

Originally posted by Jaffer


The reason I made that "sharing" crack was because I am spending a small fortune importing a couple of RC 60's from back East.
Had I seen these (new to me) other options in time I may have reconsidered and just started out with one of the new aftermarket pumpkins, saving me a lot of hassle and re-tubing work I most probably have to farm out of town ... adding even more shipping costs since there are no heavy duty axel shops around here.
I thought the whole purpose of the BBSs was to inform and share info ... but apparently some feel they are too good for that sort of thing.
So, thanks for nothing. hot shot ... :nuke:

1. I think there is some confusion here, I have a regular RC 60 out of a ford that I too had to get from back east and re-tube, and like I said, it was way before the tera and dynatrac 60 housing were on the market. So I dont know how sharing pictures of this two years ago would have helped anyone.

2. Yeah, the cast aluminum diff cover is of concern, but it's pretty thick, and it's facing backward, so it shouldn't see much hi-speed impact, i'm sure it will get plenty of rock-bruising, I just have to be consious of it. But at least it's more bad-ass than yours
:) lol. It's not on the top of my list of things to do, but I plan on shaving the housing and possible making some sort of steel skidplate for the cover. I am running inner axle seals just like on a front end, hence the seal surface on the axle, mainly to keep the oil out of the wheel bearing, it makes a real mess, wait untill you take them apart after you run it for a while, you probably know what I mean since you have had a toyota front end.

3. the shock set-up works very well. I have gotten alot of air at pismo and we are going to gorman again on friday to get the shocks dialed in better, the faster you go, the 2 ft whoops seem to disapear. We will try and post some video next week. I mainly did it for packaging so I could run an external bypass shock, and also to have something different and trick. I didn't know Victoria was you wife? she never told me she was married.

She never told me she was married.

Now C'mon, did you REALLY take the time to get to know her? I didn't think so.
How have the Johnny Joints been holding up?

Originally posted by twistedmetal


Now C'mon, did you REALLY take the time to get to know her? I didn't think so.
How have the Johnny Joints been holding up?

No your right, I didn't. I didn't have to get to know her, she was too easy.

as far as the johnny joints, I haven't had any problems yet, but I dont have much time on them, and I haven't taken them apart to check for damage. I have noticed however that one of the washers that holds the urethane in is starting to bulge out.
I was riding with everones buddy these days; ned bacon, in Moab at easter jeep safari and one of his johnny joints came apart, basically, one of the snaprings popped out and the joint was loose, it clanged around a little bit but it's totally captured and cant go any where. If i remember correctly it was on one of his upper links of his rear suspension, on the frame, the links were triangulated, but the frame mount was not straight with the angle of link so the joint was taking side load, maybe the reason the joint came apart. This is a vague memory, and that last part about the angle of the joint could be straight out of my ass.

How's that for sharing? I've spent too much time on this computer, I have work to do for friday.

OK, you are right, Goat ... I take it back.

But the point still is that posts like Camo's (and your's) are well appreciated by the 'audience' so I hope you'all do take the time to post about new and cool stuff.

It keeps the rest of us better informed of 'what's out there', shows what can be done ... in shop or farmed out ... and really helps guys like me starting all over from scratch ...

http://www.monsterslayer.com/jeep/TJCrawler/NewHoistD60.jpg

Thanks.

Jaffer


you nailed it on the head. i relize most people cant afford 5k for a rear axle and even if they could most would not spend that kind of cash on an axle. my intention was to show off so to speak. it lets people know what can be done. stuff like this is never in the magazines but sandy has been building it for racers for 30 years.

just wait until i start stealing tech from the indy car guys :D

Originally posted by camo
just wait until i start stealing tech from the indy car guys :D

Ha, lets see some carbon-fiber man.

You should try to become the spokesperson for Tread Lightly!

Originally posted by PIG


Ha, lets see some carbon-fiber man.

i want to build my skid plate/cross member from honeycomb and carbon fiber.

Originally posted by mccombs07
You should try to become the spokesperson for Tread Lightly!

WTF? :smokin:

Originally posted by mccombs07
You should try to become the spokesperson for Tread Lightly!

:confused:

:smokin:

Shutup Newbie!!!!

Originally posted by Lance


:confused:

:smokin:

light weight rig= tread lightly..."get it":p :p :p

Thats it! No Free rebuild kit for Fairy Crusier!

Camo do you have any more pics of your suspension? If so can you paost them

Thanks