(old messages) Rubicon work day: June 29th

[Rubicrawler]

We are planning a work day on the Rubicon for June 29th. The goal is to repair 3 mud pits that are located just before Walker Hill and just after Walkers Rock. Please see the following thread for the discussion

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=58829

It is not our intention to completely fill the pits. Our goal is to simply make them passable and to block off the bypass trails that have been started. We will use rock and soil from the surrounding areas to help mitigate further errossion.

We need as many volunteers as we can get! The more workers we have the more we will accomplish.

Let the sign up and ideas begin!


TIA for your support!

[Binderfan2002]

Originally posted by Rubicrawler


We need as many volunteers as we can get! The more workers we have the more we will accomplish.

Let the sign up begin!


TIA for your support!

I will take that weekend off. Count me in. :)

[Rubicrawler]

There will be a bunch of us camping at Loon Friday night :D

[Rubicrawler]

Originally posted by Aggro


What time will you guys head out sat morning? I'll try to be there so I can tag along- I'll probably have to get tugged or winched in a place or two.

I can bring shovels, choker cable, snatchblock, gloves, chainsaws, what else?

I guess we will need to leave around 7:00am. Unless there are a lot of people then we may need to leave earlier. How long does it normally take you? I drive slow but I can make Spider in 90min.

[The Rockslut]

I say we leave the spillway at 7am. That should give us plenty of time to deal with traffic (if neccessary) and to get to the first obsitcal (downed trees after Ellis creek)

[Rubicrawler]

Originally posted by MIke Mondloch


Mark ?? Should others be bringing rock in whenever? I've got a group of ten rigs on the 14th, if they each bring 2 bowling ball sized rocks on the way in and 2 more on their way back out then thats a nice pile. Where do you want it?

Mike- if you want to bring some rock in with you, drop it in the first pit. It's the one just after a small creek (not Ellis) and you have to turn left as you exit the creek. Just place the rock up toward the wall and the exit of the pit. There's not a lot of rock in that area and there's a lot up at Walker.

Thanks to you and your group for the help!

[Mondo EB]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Rubicrawler
[B]

Mike- if you want to bring some rock in with you, drop it in the first pit. It's the one just after a small creek (not Ellis) and you have to turn left as you exit the creek. Just place the rock up toward the wall and the exit of the pit.


Haven't been up this year so I'm not positive but pretty sure of where your talking about. Hopefully it will be obvious and maybe even others will have started to stack em . We are not going in as a group so the more familar Walker would have been easier to organize but we'll see what we can do.
BTW this is not an organized run but just people hooking up. There must be some organized club runs between now ond the end of the month that could really help to haul in more rock.

[66CJdean]

With all the help here are all the spots that I know of: Drain the small lake just after Ellis ck., then remove all the downed trees from the streem just up the trail, remove the one large log from the next streem, then at that streem there is a mud pit that needs help, the next mud pit is just below Walker rock, and the last one and it is the biggest is a ways above Walker rock. I don't know what the game plan is as to what we are going to work on but there is a list of what needs work.

[Binderfan2002]

Hey Mark are you leaving friday and camping at loon? If so i could make my way up there after work be there around 8:30 or so friday night. If i dont here back from you by tomarow afternoon i will see you at amandas graduation.

Steve

[IronBenderII]

I have some broken up concrete that I can bring up. It's not a lot, but it will help keep from having to steal rocks from the trail. Let me know.

-Jack

[66CJdean]

The mud holes are in places where there are plenty of rocks so no need for the rip-rap. I think with the help that is comming it should take long at all. Can we decide on a CB channel?

[Rubicrawler]

Originally posted by 66CJdean

Can we decide on a CB channel?

We usually use channel 4, but so do a lot of other people and it usually get's busy. How 'bout 14?

[66CJdean]

14 it is.

[Aggro]

14 check.

[Monkeyboy]

I might not have my CB in yet so I will just yell out my window with a megaphone at you all :D

[rockwrangler]

I haven't made it up there yet this year. Do the pits still have water in them?
If so has anyone got a 1"1/2"-2" water pump with hoses that could be used to drian off some of the water. This would make repairs alot better if we can see the bottom and make placing of the rocks and fill more useful instead of making a big slop hole. if the pit has water in it and you just pile in dirt and rock you will be back next year to the same pit. we need to set a good base of rock to make it last

[The Rockslut]

Originally posted by Monkeyboy
I might not have my CB in yet so I will just yell out my window with a megaphone at you all :D

I wont have my CB either so we can just yell at each other :D

[rockwrangler]

jeepndel/ ?
would it be helpful to bring a 11/2" gas water pump as i might" be able to get one to bring if my buddy from the construction trades comes with me. please let me know as i don't want to bring something that is not needed

[Monkeyboy]

SOUNDS GOOD TO ME :D

Just practicing :flipoff2:

Originally posted by The Rockslut


I wont have my CB either so we can just yell at each other :D

[Rubicrawler]

Originally posted by rockwrangler
I haven't made it up there yet this year. Do the pits still have water in them?
If so has anyone got a 1"1/2"-2" water pump with hoses that could be used to drian off some of the water. This would make repairs alot better if we can see the bottom and make placing of the rocks and fill more useful instead of making a big slop hole. if the pit has water in it and you just pile in dirt and rock you will be back next year to the same pit. we need to set a good base of rock to make it last

I was up there on Memorial Day. There was a little water and a lot of mud. My guess is that by now, it's just mud.

[rockwrangler]

rubicrawler
Thanks for responding if its just mud then there is no need for a pump so I'll just bring tools agian thanks!!
rockwrangler

[Crowdog]

IceMan (FOTR) & I went up today to scout things out. There are actually four areas that need work. Two are bigger, and two are smaller. There is water in all of them.

The area past Walker Hill is not a water/mud issue any more. We need to do something longer term, but not on the 29th.

Our take on the work is that this can't be accomplished in one day. The first thing that needs to be done is drain the areas and provide a clear exit for the water so that it cannot accumulate. Then once the water is gone (or greatly diminished), the areas need to be properly rocked.

My suggestion would be to attack the drainage on the 29th, and placing rock on another weekend once things have dried out. If we bite off more than we can chew, the work will not be done properly, and we'll have to do it over again. Let's do it right. That said, I can't make it on the 29th. :(

There is no harm in hauling in some rock and collecting some from the surrounding areas (wheelbarrow would be good).

I would also suggest mosquito repellant and rubber boots (at least as an option).

I will have pictures of the areas that I can send to a few of you as needed. I will not post them here.

Water pump(s) might not be a bad idea.

That's my 2 cents.

IceMan does this stuff for a living, so he will have better direction than me. His rig is out of commision:(, so he'll be looking for a ride in on the 29th. He might also need a hand getting his rig out tomorrow if someone has free time. His steering box busted out of his frame. Through the tough stuff, just another 100ft to go.

Jon

[66CJdean]

I was up there this weekend and think with some picks and shovels we could do quite abit. I would think that we will need to plan another weekend a month or two latter just to do any repaires that might be needed and asses how it is holding up. The streambed log jams are all taken care of now and the water is not a problem at the mud pits before Walker but I didn't make it up top.

[The Jerk]

Originally posted by 66CJdean
I was up there this weekend and think with some picks and shovels we could do quite abit. I would think that we will need to plan another weekend a month or two latter just to do any repaires that might be needed and asses how it is holding up. The streambed log jams are all taken care of now and the water is not a problem at the mud pits before Walker but I didn't make it up top. i saw no changed up walker and across the top and in to sluice all is wekk up there! jiMMy

[Rubicrawler]

Thanks for the weekennd updates! I agree that we will need to plan another work day but it's important that we keep the main objective in mind. That is to keep the trail passable and to block the bypasses. Is the mud pit at the bottom of Walker Hill passable? Are the bypasses still being used?

The drainage issue is going to be a long term project and IceMan can guide us on how to deal with it. Any plans we have to make permanent drainage repairs will need to be cleared with El Dorado county and the USFS.

Thanks again for the updates! Keep them coming :)

[Crowdog]

Mark,

There aren't any mud pits at the bottom or top of Walker. They are all dry. Bypasses weren't being used as far as I could tell.

I think we should focus on the areas that still have standing water. Clear the debris on the downside and get them draining properly. Then work on rocking them to mitigate silt runoff.

Jon

[Rubicrawler]

Originally posted by Crowdog
Mark,

There aren't any mud pits at the bottom or top of Walker. They are all dry. Bypasses weren't being used as far as I could tell.

I think we should focus on the areas that still have standing water. Clear the debris on the downside and get them draining properly. Then work on rocking them to mitigate silt runoff.

Jon

Cool! As long as people can get through then I agree, let's attack the standing water and block the bypasses :)

[66CJdean]

We camped at the bottom of Walker we did watch quite a few rigs go through there and to my supprise quite a few of them were having some difficulty with this spot. It isn't that there is much callenge to this spot as much as it is that people don't know how to drive. The bypass is nothing new and therefor not really hurting much but it is causing more erosion so it needs to be closed off so that there is only one way in for camping. As stated though the ground in this spot is dry for the most part.

[Monkeyboy]

Did you get any pictures of the trouble spots?

This may help us prepare.

[Crowdog]

Originally posted by Monkeyboy
Did you get any pictures of the trouble spots?

This may help us prepare.

I took pictures and forwarded copies to Mark & Del. Don't want to post them here.

Jon

[moveaside]

I was up there on father's day and your right I saw some crazy rigs having a lot of trouble and people started to make bypasses my friends and I went through but it is pretty tatered needs a little love see you there;)

[rockwrangler]

I got channel 14 on the CB But where to meet and what time to meet would be helpful.

[Rubicrawler]

Originally posted by rockwrangler
I got channel 14 on the CB But where to meet and what time to meet would be helpful.

The "Meeting time and place" will be posted here in this Forum.