i am looking at putting the 63" chevys in the rear of my Land Rover, and i know it is a popular conversion with you guys so i was hoping to see some flex pics. the rear end of the rover weighs about the same as the rear end of a toy PU/4runner, so id also like to hear how you have the springs set up in terms of what leaves removed, etc.

thanks! :beer:

btw, i did a search, a lot of scattered info but nothing concrete. so :flipoff2:

No pics.

Check the Toy FAQ and theres a link with all necessary information that you need to know about Chevy springs. Click the link below:

Chevy Springs (http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20665)

at the end of a 5010 shock... and my brake line

and here is the same thing (end of a 5012 shock and brake-line)...

here is mine with no shocks and dual shackles.

Drew

Hooder, why is your truck flexed on the trolley tracks in the middle of a city? :confused:

Originally posted by Dr. Evil
Hooder, why is your truck flexed on the trolley tracks in the middle of a city? :confused:

flex where you can???:flipoff2:

that's on my loading dock here at work, those tracks haven't been used in prolly 30 years.

Put in the 92 toy rears.

They KINDA work.

:flipoff2:

Just get the spring hangers up as high as possible, notch them into the frame if you can. They like to hang up on stuff it you wheel hard.

pmurf1, I was just curious if you're running the dual shackle setup or not (it looks like you might be but can't tell for sure)
Thanks
Jeff

Here's a one.

And another:

is the pin centered on the 62s? i forget lol :D

cant deny the flex, but those LONG ass springs hang up on everything and stick out the rear toooooo much to actually be worthy in real trail wheelin...find something shorter or deal with getiing hung up just when you thought you where over an obstacle, or bang into your shackle every time you try and back off something or back off a steep incline..........

sorry, they flex great, but they are just tooo darn long to be truely effective...theres nothing you can do with the departure angle, and frenching in the front hanger is only solving half the prob....

Originally posted by pmurf1
Just get the spring hangers up as high as possible, notch them into the frame if you can. They like to hang up on stuff it you wheel hard.

Hey, what size tires you runnin?

Originally posted by Booger Weldz
cant deny the flex, but those LONG ass springs hang up on everything and stick out the rear toooooo much to actually be worthy in real trail wheelin...find something shorter or deal with getiing hung up just when you thought you where over an obstacle, or bang into your shackle every time you try and back off something or back off a steep incline..........

sorry, they flex great, but they are just tooo darn long to be truely effective...theres nothing you can do with the departure angle, and frenching in the front hanger is only solving half the prob....

I've never had with mine. Who cares if you whack the shackle coming off something steep. It's never hurt me. :D:D

BTW: If you're worried about backing up and hitting them I have a solution, just GET IT the first time and you'll be fine. :D:D

Depends on what size tire you run on the hanging up thing. Frenching the front hangers into the frame would be a job and the gas tank would need to be dropped to do it on the passenger side. You would be able to get onto the rear tire and able to climb better that's for sure. I'm gonna do it one of these days when it cools off.

It's pretty rare I hit my rear shackles. The bumper will hit first, which is not that often either with the bob job. Guess the 38's help though.

i hti the shackles on my 56"ers dropping off shit all the time?? maybe you guys are afraid of heights:flipoff2: :flipoff2:

paul i pmed you

I have completed the 63" chevy swap, and have learned some things:

1) The double shackle rig doesn't work safely without some additional rear axle locating bars. Too much side-to-side movement of the axle.

2) The 63" springs that I have (three springs plus wrap leaf) were so soft that the leafs were basicaly FLAT with the Toy just sitting there on it. No gear, tools, spare parts, passengers, or beer etc.

3) The 63" springs w/ double shackle provided about 1.5" of lift over stock ride height, with axle centered in wheelwell.

We solved this by adding a rancho add-a-leaf, a longer shackle, and a new rear hanger. The rancho has not affected the flex any, and the single shackle solves the rear axle placement/safety problems. Much thanks to Mo and Richard at Rocket City Offroad (http://rocketcityoffroad.com/) for help with this.

My truck is ramping almost 1000 on a 20 deg ramp - it misses by about 8 inches of getting the rear on the ramp, and right now the limitation is the shock absorber being too LONG - its acting as a bumpstop - I think I can fix that and ramp 1000. The truck ride height matches the sagged AllPro 5" front springs very well and the chevy/rancho hybrid seems to flex about the same rate as the allpros. My allpro front springs are well-sagged - about 2 years and 20K miles on them.

All I need now are some bumpstops and shorter shocks.

Do any companies make these buggy shackle set ups ive heard of? Reason is when I bobbed my truck I whacked off the frame right behind the stock shackles, so I am unable to run double shackles properly.

It's not buggy shackles, it's buggy leaves. There's info on these and dual shackles in the tech section from the P4x4 home page.
With the frame cut short, you might be able to box the frame, then run some round tubing through the end. Then just mount an extra long shackle through there. That is if you don't like the buggy leaves.

:D :D :D

Originally posted by Fullsizes Rule
:D :D :D

that is ugly!:flipoff2:

Originally posted by ross-sparky-h


that is ugly!:flipoff2:


Thanks :grinpimp:

here's a bad one. I'm running 38's.

Hey It's Daver,
You can run the double shackle setup even if you whacked the frame off at the rear of the stock rear hangers. I am. I used a piece of 1/4" angle iron welded to the end of the cut off frame to stop the double shackle from going past horizontal. It doesn't really take up any room. A 2" body lift is need to use the stock 4runner tailgate though, which I also have.

Did the new shocks get you past 1000?

Mo

I think I have a pic of Chevy leafs with the Double Shackles, (Those things SUCK!) I got HORRIBLE Wheel Hop on the steep stuff. My truck looked dumb on Rock Pile in Moab. They are now sitting in the garage and I am running a single shackle. The flex is decent, but not near what the Double Shackles could do. Still, they will never again be on my truck........


http://www.rockymountainextreme.com/attachment.php?postid=4922

Originally posted by Alabamatoy
I have completed the 63" chevy swap, and have learned some things:

1) The double shackle rig doesn't work safely without some additional rear axle locating bars. Too much side-to-side movement of the axle.


I have double shakles and rotating perches on my rear chevy swap. Yes my rear end is squirly sometimes, but not dangerous in any way. I don't know what you did, but getting used to the locker was harder then getting used to the soft rear springs.

We solved this by adding a rancho add-a-leaf, a longer shackle, and a new rear hanger. The rancho has not affected the flex any, and the single shackle solves the rear axle placement/safety problems. Much thanks to Mo and Richard at Rocket City Offroad (http://rocketcityoffroad.com/) for help with this.

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hey, speakin' of which.. how much more ride height did u get w/ that rancho aal.. and what is it advertised for.. thanks..

Originally posted by Rokcrler
Did the new shocks get you past 1000?

Mo Hey Mo! I havent been back to the ramp yet. May have time to do that today. I think it will get me 1000 or more.....

Originally posted by slotoy
hey, speakin' of which.. how much more ride height did u get w/ that rancho aal.. and what is it advertised for.. thanks.. The Rancho game me about 1.5-2 inches of lift and didn't seem to affect the flex. With the 63s, the rancho AAL I sit a bit asslow with the 5 inch AP front springs. Advertised - you mean price? RCOR took my 5 inch Skyjackers in trade - I dunno the advertised price.

Originally posted by toymaniac
I have double shakles and rotating perches on my rear chevy swap. Yes my rear end is squirly sometimes, but not dangerous in any way. I don't know what you did, but getting used to the locker was harder then getting used to the soft rear springs. My problem wasnt the softness, it was the side-to-side movement of the rear axle. The shop guys (Mo etc) wouldn't let me out with it with no links to keep it from moving side-to-side. So we ditched the double shackle and went with the AAL.

To the top. Also please add the amount of lift you acheieved.

I'm looking to get 4-6" on my 80 toyota with the chevy springs. Think its possible?

Also looking to use the sky manufacturing kit. Whats your opinion.

here are my chevies.... not the best pic but you get the idea. they drop ALOT more, and have very good onroad drivability

268578

268579

Holy old post Batman :flipoff2:

16" 5150s, relocated brake line single shackle.

Holy old post Batman :flipoff2:


Yep got to love the search :D

To the top. Also please add the amount of lift you acheieved.

I'm looking to get 4-6" on my 80 toyota with the chevy springs. Think its possible?

Also looking to use the sky manufacturing kit. Whats your opinion.


No, not without a 2-4" lift block.

You could throw some other 2.5" springs under the pack for more lift, but you lose stiffness. The 3rd and 4th leaves from a 4wd 73-87 rearend have quite a bit more arch, and you can throw them under the upper 3-pack from your 63" chevy set. I'm probably at 5-6" now, but not as flexy.