I can't get my T-case skidplate off my YJ. The rearmost bolts on each side spin, but do not thread out of the frame. There are no holes in the frame to get inside there either. Any options other than drilling holes in the framerail so I can stop the little welded thingy from spinning?

Don't drill in the frame... Most likely even if you can get something in there, it'll be too frozen up for you to able to stop it from spinning. I say drill out the bolts...

time for the gas axe:flipoff2:

OK, so if I drill the bolts out, then I'd still have to cut the frame when I put them back in to get a nut in there wouldn't I?

Since they spin in the existing holes, you should be able to shear the tops off with a die grinder or angle grinder. Then you can just push the remainder of the bolts up into the frame and re-tap the holes a size bigger and use bigger bolts.

Jake

Since they spin in the existing holes, you should be able to shear the tops off with a die grinder or angle grinder. Then you can just push the remainder of the bolts up into the frame and re-tap the holes a size bigger and use bigger bolts.

The bolts have a tapered head on them that fits into a socket in the tcase skidplate. I can only cut it flush with the tcase skid, but due to the taper, it wouldnt be enough of a cut for that to work.

Originally posted by Jakesteramalamajama
Then you can just push the remainder of the bolts up into the frame and re-tap the holes a size bigger and use bigger bolts.
Jake
Push the remainder of the bolt up in the frame? Why would you want to do this? So everyone can hear you coming. *ding, rattle, bang*

Question for you. If you tapped the frame for a larger bolt how many threads would be holding the bolt in? The frame isn't originally tapped. They have a nut welded to the inside of the frame. In this case the nut has broken loose.
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Dude, Don't try to "Tap the frame" You will need to find some flag nuts or you could make some. Just take a nut the size you want and weld ears on it. That way you can drop it in the frame after you cut a small hole in the frame and drillout or torch the head of the old bolt off. THen you can pull out what's left of the old nut and bolt. Now drop the new flag nut in the frame. Then use a finger or a thin wire to move the new flag nut over the hole and start the bolt. The ears you welded on the nut will catch against the frame and you can tighten up the bolt.

I get all my flag nuts from a Ford frame plant. It's just to bad they are metric. :D

i agree with cuttin the bolt head off and pushing the rest into the frame, but not leaving it in there, you can use the frame crumple zones(a.k.a. frame washout holes) and run a thin wire to snag the access and fish it out of there, we used this method run some lines and wires through the frame rail, it takes a little bit of time but it will be better than haveing a bolt :bounce2: ing around in your frame

You guys must have silent stealth Jeeps...

Between the tire noise, exhaust noise, wind noise, etc. I can't hear my freakin stereo' let alone some bolt that may or may not be in the frame.

:crybaby: Whaaaaa! There's a little piece of bolt in my frame hurting my ears! :crybaby:

What a buncha babies. :flipoff2:

Oh, and what I was saying about "tapping" (if you'd read carefully instead of skimming over it and shooting your mouth off--figuratively speaking) never mentioned tapping the frame, but was referring to the carriage nut (or whatever you want to call it--the threaded part that already exists inside the frame) If the bolt still turns, it's probably stripped and you could just drill and re-tap the EXISTING threaded part a little larger.

Ya buncha bastards,

:flipoff2: Jake

Originally posted by Honkylips


The bolts have a tapered head on them that fits into a socket in the tcase skidplate. I can only cut it flush with the tcase skid, but due to the taper, it wouldnt be enough of a cut for that to work.

I'm familiar with the tapered-head bolts. Just use a small-diameter stone grinding wheel or disk and chew the head until you're down to the narrow section of the bolt and the skidplate will come off.

Oh and don't listen to these other idiots...:flipoff2: ;) :D

maybe I'm just stronger than I am smart but if there's only a couple bolts left- pry that thing off there- those bolts will break off then you can deal with them.:question: :question:

If there is enough room between the skip and frame use a Saw-z-all to cut the bolt.

Originally posted by Jakesteramalamajama
Oh, and what I was saying about "tapping" (if you'd read carefully instead of skimming over it and shooting your mouth off--figuratively speaking) never mentioned tapping the frame, but was referring to the carriage nut (or whatever you want to call it--the threaded part that already exists inside the frame) If the bolt still turns, it's probably stripped and you could just drill and re-tap the EXISTING threaded part a little larger.

Ya buncha bastards,

:flipoff2: Jake
and re-tap the holes a size bigger and use bigger bolts

Oh I see, you gave great directions. :rolleyes: Where does it refer to the carriage nut in that statement? Or am I skimming again??:flipoff2:................................. .................................................. ......... It doesn't.

It looks to me that you are the one shooting your mouth off and proving how knowledgeable you are. .(figuratively speaking) ;)Just for my education, please point out where I was shooting my mouth off:confused:

What about, using a sawsall between the skidplate and frame to cut off the old bolt. Fish it out a access some place or leave it. Then weld a 1/4" plate the onto your frame where all the bolts for the skidplate pass through on both sides. Then drill and tap out the 1/4" plate for the bolts for your skid plate. Granted your skid plate will be 1/4" lower, but you could use this time to make a new flat skid 1/4" shorter, or preferable even more.

Ben
--newbie with too many ideas.:)

Don't yj's just have shouldered nut's recessed into the frame and welded on?

here's my question. have you removed the other bolts and the rears didn't just fall out?

my yj just has nuts welded up there. if the nut broke off the fame it would fall to the floor.

Another way of replacing the nut in the frame could be by selecting the nut and bolt you want to use to reattach the skidplate. Drill a hole in the frame just a hair larger than the nut and tap the nut into the hole. Make sure to have it attached to the bolt so it doesn't go all the way through and get stuck in the frame. Then just weld the nut in place and remove the bolt. THe nut should then be sitting flush with the frame and will be similar to what the factory had, only stonger. I haven't actually tried it, but it sounds like it would work.

Grind or cut the heads off, pound what's left into the frame, then get an extended shank drill bit and through-bolt the damn thing.

Originally posted by Grnscru
Another way of replacing the nut in the frame could be by selecting the nut and bolt you want to use to reattach the skidplate. Drill a hole in the frame just a hair larger than the nut and tap the nut into the hole. Make sure to have it attached to the bolt so it doesn't go all the way through and get stuck in the frame. Then just weld the nut in place and remove the bolt. THe nut should then be sitting flush with the frame and will be similar to what the factory had, only stonger. I haven't actually tried it, but it sounds like it would work.

This is what I did in the same situation with my '92 YJ only I used a Broach to make a hex hole the size of the nut so it sat in nice and tight then welded it in.

As far as noise from leaving a broken bolt in the frame this is a YJ not one of them new-fangled TJ things. You will never hear it.

Josh

Here's what I did when the same shiat happened to mine. After getting the bolts out, which was a PIA in itself. I drilled all the holes out to 1/2", then went further and drilled straight up through the frame. I attach my skid with some 6" bolts all the way up through the frame, and nuts, etc on top. Way easy to drop the skid, and no worries about getting the bolt in, or fawking up a thread or nut or anything.

Not the most rocket scientist thing so far, but it works.

Originally posted by syko

Push the remainder of the bolt up in the frame? Why would you want to do this? So everyone can hear you coming. *ding, rattle, bang*

Question for you. If you tapped the frame for a larger bolt how many threads would be holding the bolt in? The frame isn't originally tapped. They have a nut welded to the inside of the frame. In this case the nut has broken loose.
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Dude, Don't try to "Tap the frame" You will need to find some flag nuts or you could make some. Just take a nut the size you want and weld ears on it. That way you can drop it in the frame after you cut a small hole in the frame and drillout or torch the head of the old bolt off. THen you can pull out what's left of the old nut and bolt. Now drop the new flag nut in the frame. Then use a finger or a thin wire to move the new flag nut over the hole and start the bolt. The ears you welded on the nut will catch against the frame and you can tighten up the bolt.

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Originally posted by crawlinTJ
Here's what I did when the same shiat happened to mine. After getting the bolts out, which was a PIA in itself. I drilled all the holes out to 1/2", then went further and drilled straight up through the frame. I attach my skid with some 6" bolts all the way up through the frame, and nuts, etc on top. Way easy to drop the skid, and no worries about getting the bolt in, or fawking up a thread or nut or anything.

Not the most rocket scientist thing so far, but it works.

This is a good idea, except I would suggest adding metal sleeves to the frame otherwise you can start to collapse the frame, this happens alot easier then most people would think.

shit can it and get a new Jeep:flipoff2:

trailhawg:fj:

Originally posted by Jakesteramalamajama


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What ever makes you feel good:rolleyes:
*shaking head*




Honkylips
did you get it fixed??????