: OJ Bronco Suspension, What kits are good?


Desertbronco
08-19-2007, 02:40 AM
I want to stay TTB, Dont want to coilover, Going to 2 link the rear and keep the leafs, With a 2 1/2''x 12 resovoir shock in the rear. was looking at the Dick Cepek 6'' Stage 2, What do you guys on the boards recomend. Thanks

Desertbronco
08-19-2007, 02:34 PM
anyone have any ideas.

f250crawler
08-19-2007, 03:19 PM
What do you want to do with the bronco?

93chico4by
08-19-2007, 05:24 PM
http://www.giantmotorsports.com/products/4xbeam.php

http://www.camburg.com/ford4x4F150-P4x4.html

those are the best, you won't be disappaointed.

mustange70
08-19-2007, 05:32 PM
www.autofab.com.

Cut and turned beams are the only way to run lifted ttb trucks, lotso travel and no pos drop brackets.

4x4junkie
08-19-2007, 06:28 PM
Cut & turned beams are not without some drawbacks either.

The Skyjacker Class II kits are among the best bracket type lifts.
At 6" lift though, you'll definitely want to do something with the steering beyond just putting on the drop pitman arm that comes with it though.

Judging by your username though, playing around at high speed in the desert, the beam kits (such as Autofab's) do work very well for that.

Desertbronco
08-19-2007, 08:04 PM
I know John at Autofab and he builds a great product I just cant afford his stuff, I also know Jerry at Camburg I have the same problem there too. I have tossed the idea of cutting and turning the beams but its about $800

Desertbronco
08-19-2007, 08:07 PM
Cut & turned beams are not without some drawbacks either.

The Skyjacker Class II kits are among the best bracket type lifts.
At 6" lift though, you'll definitely want to do something with the steering beyond just putting on the drop pitman arm that comes with it though.

Judging by your username though, playing around at high speed in the desert, the beam kits (such as Autofab's) do work very well for that.

I do like the desert Occotillo is the favorate desert spot and Cleghorn is the favorate local trail. I want it to be driveable, occotillo is a looooong way from home and my tundra wont pull it.

svt150j49
08-19-2007, 09:29 PM
ive heard great things about the camburg kits....

Beat95YJ
08-19-2007, 09:49 PM
I (and some coworkers) have been beating the living shit out of a 96 F-150 with a rancho kit on it. It works much better than I would have thought. (the add a leaf rear is crap though) The geometry is the same as stock. The ttb is flat at ride height and the suspension takes everything without issue. We did weld portions of the brackets to the frame, and we put some extra plate on the back of the crossmember as well as under the drivers side of the engine.

I definately give it props for working. It ties in much better than the previous pos trailmaster lift that was on the truck. (ProComp's kit is similar to the Rancho, it looks like a copy, keep in mind every procomp kit I have installed has required modification)

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=317859&stc=1&d=1186036160

Desertbronco
08-19-2007, 09:58 PM
I posted a want add on racedesert and i got a response a guy has a 6 '' rancho kit for $600, I will probably gusset the shit out of it and plate the radius arms .

Desertbronco
08-19-2007, 09:59 PM
Thanks for the photo......I (and some coworkers) have been beating the living shit out of a 96 F-150 with a rancho kit on it. It works much better than I would have thought. (the add a leaf rear is crap though) The geometry is the same as stock. The ttb is flat at ride height and the suspension takes everything without issue. We did weld portions of the brackets to the frame, and we put some extra plate on the back of the crossmember as well as under the drivers side of the engine.

I definately give it props for working. It ties in much better than the previous pos trailmaster lift that was on the truck. (ProComp's kit is similar to the Rancho, it looks like a copy, keep in mind every procomp kit I have installed has required modification)

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=317859&stc=1&d=1186036160

Beat95YJ
08-19-2007, 10:30 PM
If you like that one, here are a few more, and a link to some build notes:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=554469

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=317857&stc=1&d=1186036160

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=317860&stc=1&d=1186036390

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=317603&stc=1&d=1185932441

I should also mention that the reason for all the plating was that the trail master kit (which had never been offroad) had cracked the crossmember in several locations. That is a large part of the reason we ended up with the truck. It was deemed worthless as a daily driver. I personally drive it 2 or 3 days a week, and it is doing just fine.

Desertbronco
08-20-2007, 10:02 AM
If you like that one, here are a few more, and a link to some build notes:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=554469

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=317857&stc=1&d=1186036160

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=317860&stc=1&d=1186036390

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=317603&stc=1&d=1185932441

I should also mention that the reason for all the plating was that the trail master kit (which had never been offroad) had cracked the crossmember in several locations. That is a large part of the reason we ended up with the truck. It was deemed worthless as a daily driver. I personally drive it 2 or 3 days a week, and it is doing just fine.

Thanks for the help

mjlogan88
08-20-2007, 10:57 AM
Honestly, if you are looking for a rancho kit check the junkyards. Specifically the Pick n pull in Riverside. I see a lot of ttb trucks with the rancho kit there. I'll bet they will sell you everything for around $200 or less.

Desertbronco
08-20-2007, 11:18 AM
Honestly, if you are looking for a rancho kit check the junkyards. Specifically the Pick n pull in Riverside. I see a lot of ttb trucks with the rancho kit there. I'll bet they will sell you everything for around $200 or less.

I think I might try that, what ever kit i get in going to have to plate, i might as well get it cheap.

kemicalburns
08-20-2007, 11:30 AM
rancho doesnt make a 6" ttb lift.

Desertbronco
08-20-2007, 11:44 AM
I am ok with a 4''.

Desertbronco
08-20-2007, 11:47 AM
Beat I just went and looked at all 6 pages on your truck, I like how you built it , doing things once it nice. you should sell the bumpers I need to get my hands on a set.

Beat95YJ
08-20-2007, 12:23 PM
Thanks. I cannot take the credit, it belongs to the company I work for and there is a team of people that have contributed to it.

Desertbronco
08-20-2007, 03:24 PM
Beat what shocks are you running?

svt150j49
08-20-2007, 06:07 PM
im running the rancho 4" ttb on the front of my beast. it did very well with the brackets welded to the frame and the extended rad. arms. it doesnt like 40s tho. :flipoff2:

Beat95YJ
08-20-2007, 07:01 PM
Beat what shocks are you running?

Some custom tuned Edelbrock stuff.

steveG3
08-20-2007, 07:47 PM
There's a similar thread in the "Desert Racing" section. Here's my post on that thread.

I have a TTB Bronco with front and rear Autofab suspension (I built the shock mounts). The front is stock width with coil-buckets and 2.5"x14" Fox shocks and the rear has Autofab long-travel leaves, 2-link kit and 2.5"x12" shocks mounted under the floor. It handles awesome off-road and drives very well on-road.

There are a ton of options for these and basically it's boils down to how much you want to spend and how fast you want to go.

If you want to link the rear, it really needs to be a 3 or 4-link (no pan-hard bar). They handle great, but you're going to sacrifice a lot of interior room and really compromise the rear seat.

Front:

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/318075/fullsize/img_5072-(2).jpg

Rear:

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/477990/fullsize/img_4144-(3).jpg

It's very possible that a GOOD drop bracket kit with GOOD shocks will be more than you'll ever need. But you'll be ruined once you drive a properly set up truck with properly valved shocks.:D

If you do end up with a drop bracket kit, I recommend buying it without shocks. In my experience, pretty much any shock that comes with a "lift kit" is crap. Once the kit is installed, cycle the front end to determine shock lengths needed and bump stop and limit strap placement.

For the rear, absolutely go with a good set of long-travel leaves. The difference in performance is night and day. The 2-link kit makes a big difference too.

Desertbronco
08-20-2007, 08:05 PM
I take it john cut and turned your beams.

steveG3
08-21-2007, 07:56 AM
I take it john cut and turned your beams.

Right.

Desertbronco
08-21-2007, 12:15 PM
he built the beams on my ranger, nice stuff, your truck came out sweet.

Beat95YJ
08-28-2007, 11:14 PM
A few pics of what we routinely do to a Rancho equipped truck:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=322793&stc=1&d=1188361083

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=322795&stc=1&d=1188361083

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=322796&stc=1&d=1188361083