: oba for zuks


nomorejeep
06-12-2002, 11:18 PM
i tired the search and came with up with nothing what are you guys useing for oba ? yorks ? thank Eric

fatkid
06-12-2002, 11:24 PM
Co2 works for me.:)

AkDale
06-13-2002, 07:22 AM
I get 90 lbs with the stock AC pump. Air tool oiler om the intake and oil seperator on the exhaust.
York is preferable because it has a built in sump and produces more pressure. You dont have to deal with the oil problem.

billj
06-13-2002, 07:43 AM
7 bar pressure from an ARB compressor going into a front bumper air tank...

:beer: :beer:

Gozuki
06-13-2002, 10:27 AM
York into hotdog 2.5 gal tank under body below rear seat..

Joe_W
06-14-2002, 07:11 AM
Originally posted by fatkid
Co2 works for me.:)

Fatkid...where do you mount yours? I'm still under debate of whether to permanently lose my rear seat or not so I'm having space issues.

Bill4rest
06-14-2002, 07:17 AM
Originally posted by Mitsuzu


Fatkid...where do you mount yours? I'm still under debate of whether to permanently lose my rear seat or not so I'm having space issues.


Do you have kids? If not, lose the seat.............

0ILBURNER
06-14-2002, 08:15 AM
Powertank.

<Flatbed doesn't have space issues:D >

mudlite
06-14-2002, 08:49 AM
I found another good use for a 3" body lift!!!!! I have a 10 gal tank in the rear in front of the gas tank , between the frame rails.
I run a chevy AC pump, and it runs at 95lbs all day long.

I have a perfectly good Zuk AC unit if anyone wants it.
100.00 US to your door.

squirrelman83
06-14-2002, 09:51 AM
I love my Powertank. It is really quick and the bottle lasts a pretty long time. :) ~Steve

http://a7.cpimg.com/image/4D/B8/10624077-d82a-01AA0280-.jpg

yager
06-14-2002, 01:53 PM
i was running a stock zuke ac unit. witht he inline oil mister and it worked great. I had a stock pully and brackets wasa realy simple mod...

Im mid streem on my montero power sterring swap and might need to move some stuff... at that point ill decide if i need to put my york in or not...

But stock unit work "ok" will air up tires np, running air tools SUCKS unless you can charge up while running down the road at 5k . But hey use what ya got...

-yag

Hank
06-17-2002, 01:58 PM
Power Tank Regulator mated to a Coca-Cola tank! More air than I need.......

Rudezuk
06-18-2002, 08:36 AM
Try the extreme air 12v compressor......4cfm and 100% duty cycle....

fatkid
06-18-2002, 08:41 AM
I don't run a back seat so theres enough space for my 10lb bottle, small tool box and a ice chest.:)

Rudezuk
06-18-2002, 08:59 AM
I placed a 2.5 gal tank under neath above the rear axle..........Pump does pretty damn good i can fill the 37's from 4psi to 20 psi in about 15 minutes for all 4.

GBRAVO
06-21-2002, 08:13 AM
I installed a Geo metro A/C compresor and bracket with pump bolted over, it is bolt on at Suzuki 1.3 and 1.6 8V.

troutbum
06-21-2002, 04:23 PM
Originally posted by AkDale
.York is preferable

Isn't the york bigger than your whole mill :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

NC Zuk
06-21-2002, 06:10 PM
If anyone wants the schematics and illustrations to turn your A/C compressor into an air compressor, drop me an e-mail. I have the detailed list of parts/prices as well as install instructions.

Click to send e-mail (artlilley@msn.com)

:usa: :beret:

Shrock
06-21-2002, 07:06 PM
post em! or email em to me

NC Zuk
06-23-2002, 07:57 AM
Originally posted by Shrock
post em! or email em to me

Look, you should know that I don't know how to post em. Don't you remember all the shite you gave me last time I tried to attach something?!

Check your e-mail, you should have em!

:usa: :beret:

tZUKnami
06-23-2002, 11:19 AM
Would you post them Schrock?

Rhys
06-23-2002, 06:02 PM
Air tank
i just picked up this air tank ( its an old firemans tank)

http://rhys.island4x4.com/Air%20Tank (http://)

Now i am wondering if anyone can tell me the kind of fittings that i need for it to be able to use it to air up, and where i can get the fittings and hose. and any precautions that should be taken . I am new to compressed air so i would like some background information before i start using it.

Also it has been Hydrostatic tested a few weeks ago, what is this and how long does it last?

thanks

Rhys

Rockrat
06-23-2002, 06:57 PM
Any type of tank that contains a pressure rating is hydrod generaly every 5 yrs and then is stamped on that date and stickered for the next inspect,also a visual inspection once a yr scuba tanks, fire extinguishers, etc. Most tank valves are have relief pressure disk that is rated to pop so you cant overpressurize
and cause a big boom I have personaly seen what a dive tank
can destroy when it was overfilled with a mixed gas and was handled improperly. Lets put it this way it was a nice boat but its hard to run when the stern is gone, motor gone,fuel tank gone!
Luckily the boat was empty and siiting on the trailer in the lot near no one.

Shrock
06-23-2002, 09:43 PM
It's a PDf so I cant post it here.

Here is the same article though:

http://www.neh-tech.com/SSACCP.htm

NC Zuk
06-24-2002, 07:20 AM
Hey Schrock, thanks for the "help" posting the specs.

:usa: :beret:

tZUKnami
06-24-2002, 06:53 PM
Thanks Shrock...:D

nomorejeep
04-19-2003, 07:06 PM
Anyone know the cfm on a compresser for 1.3 or 1.6 ?

samiguy
04-20-2003, 04:43 AM
For those of you considering the Extreme Air compressor check this out:

while researching that compressor I came accross this one, I just picked it up and it works great, its the same price as the Extreme Air and uses the EXACT same compressor! Just not as fancy.
12v compressor (http://www.awdirect.com/awdirect/finditem.cfm?itemid=15341)

yager
04-20-2003, 10:17 AM
holy time warp batman !

hmmm... the one i say reciently was a winch motor hooked to a york compressor. Looked cool and had a matching price tag. but im sure it sucked, i mean blows....

the stock ac pump is a tiny sanden type unit might help with finding specs. not sure what it really matters its not very powerful but it will inflate tires....

-yag

Sarcastro
04-20-2003, 01:08 PM
question is, does anyone have any?

Thanks! just tring to figger out where to mount mine...

yager
04-21-2003, 05:48 AM
I actually had planned on using a york on my engine and when i started figuring out where to put it i coundnt find a good spot ot mount it in my engine bay and anyplace that was open was too far away from the motor and would have required major bracektry to support it enoguh with out overloading the avaliable mounting spots....


I think a little bit larger sandon unit might turn out to be better (lighter) in the long run. It will pump more air and not be a PITA...

edit... oh ya forgot to mention i will be adding a different crank pully to over drive the power steering and the OBA a little bit more that "might" help boost the air flow.... curretly i have trouble even setting my geenie unloader valve at idle with out biping the throtle...
-yag

rotozuk
04-21-2003, 12:02 PM
Those Yorks are damn big..

I have a couple of plans for OBA on my Zuk. I'll see if I can mount a small Suzuki a/c compressor on my engine. If so, then I will be using it with an oil seperator.

If that will not fit, then plan 2 is to use the electric motor I have from a Toyota MR2 power steering pump. My understanding is this ia a 60 amp motor and has lots of power. I will connect it to an a/c compressor.

Other options, a club member showed me a mini-york compressor he has in his collection. It came from an 80's Toyota car he thinks. Nice and small!

-Wayne

rollerskate
04-21-2003, 01:21 PM
Originally posted by rotozuk


Other options, a club member showed me a mini-york compressor he has in his collection. It came from an 80's Toyota car he thinks. Nice and small!

-Wayne

It would be nice if somebody knew the year and model that
used those "baby Yorks". I looked under every hood at the
local Pick-n-Pull and couldn't find one.

Gozuki
04-21-2003, 02:08 PM
Put a pulley on the tcase out put, stick the york down there too....

Rudezuk
04-21-2003, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by samiguy
For those of you considering the Extreme Air compressor check this out:

while researching that compressor I came accross this one, I just picked it up and it works great, its the same price as the Extreme Air and uses the EXACT same compressor! Just not as fancy.
12v compressor (http://www.awdirect.com/awdirect/finditem.cfm?itemid=15341)

379 for that....extrem air is only retail of 359!

samiguy
04-21-2003, 04:41 PM
379 for that....extrem air is only retail of 359!
They are both $379.95 according to both their websites. The one I posted uses the Extremeair compressor plus you get the tank and pressure switch/guage, not a big deal if you dont need a tank. I didnt need a tank but it was local so I figured I would save on shipping. I ended up getting it for $365. Its a little pricy but I wanted the 100% duty cycle and its nice to fill up a 35 in just over a minute.

tdavis
04-21-2003, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by zukipuke
I think a little bit larger sandon unit might turn out to be better (lighter) in the long run. It will pump more air and not be a PITA...

sanden on a zuk 1.3:

http://www.explorerforum.com/tdavis/zuk/engine-1.jpg

does about 9cfm, over 300psi easily. I have rebuilt the bracket it's on, for a different belt tightening system. This one I couldn't get it tight enough to stop the PS pump from squealing.

I also use a crank pulley from Chevy Sprint that had AC; it overdrives the AC and PS pumps.

My friends love me now. It's easy and FAST to fill tires to 35PSI. I've also tested running an die grinder off of it.. and it does move enough air to make it useful. :D

Desertzuk
04-21-2003, 05:13 PM
mmmmmmm sounds like the fist sentance of my post earlier this week, and was told to do a Fawking search. :flipoff2: :D Just kidding. I use a 5lb C02 bottle that I have mounted to my roll cage behind the drivers seat. I use a coil flex hose just long enough to reach all 4 tires. It lasts along time.

rotozuk
04-22-2003, 09:14 AM
Originally posted by tdavis

I've also tested running an die grinder off of it.. and it does move enough air to make it useful. :D


Slap a tank in the system, and you will be out powering your garage compressor. (If your garage compressor is anything like mine! A $400 pile of shit.)

To me, the A/C compressors are great. The first one we used was the tiny Samurai compressor, and it seemed to pump a bit faster then the normal Yorks folks run.

-Wayne

Kicker_92
04-22-2003, 10:01 AM
has anyone here mounted a york in their zuk? I have one but can't figure out any way to mount it other than eliminating the power steering pump. Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Ryan Gates
92 Sidekick

tdavis
04-22-2003, 11:14 AM
Originally posted by rotozuk


Slap a tank in the system, and you will be out powering your garage compressor.

actually, my garage compressor is good one.. $275 for a 220V, 11CFM single stage compressor. Brand New from the local home depot.. it was missing a few things, which they also got for me. It helps to be upset when the manager is trying to get your business. :D

tdavis
04-22-2003, 11:17 AM
Originally posted by Kicker_92
has anyone here mounted a york in their zuk? I have one but can't figure out any way to mount it other than eliminating the power steering pump. Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Ryan Gates
92 Sidekick

I bought both a york, and a sanden when I started this..

The york will fit where the sanden is in my pic, but you have to get one that lays on it's side. You have to do something else for tensioning the belt - that's why I settled on the sanden unit, it also provides belt tension, and the PS pump is fixed in place.

nomorejeep
04-22-2003, 12:05 PM
Originally posted by tdavis


I bought both a york, and a sanden when I started this..

The york will fit where the sanden is in my pic, but you have to get one that lays on it's side. You have to do something else for tensioning the belt - that's why I settled on the sanden unit, it also provides belt tension, and the PS pump is fixed in place.

So you do have ps ? I read that you cant have both ps and oba.

tdavis
04-22-2003, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by nomorejeep


So you do have ps ? I read that you cant have both ps and oba.

Yes.

http://www.explorerforum.com/tdavis/zuk/power-steering-pump.jpg

Toyota PS pump, w/seperate reservoir

the Sanden is the belt tensioner.

Sarcastro
04-22-2003, 10:53 PM
that is too cool where can you get sanden compressors? ebay? what kind of cars do them come on?

Kicker_92
04-23-2003, 12:14 AM
Originally posted by tdavis


Yes.

Toyota PS pump, w/seperate reservoir

the Sanden is the belt tensioner.

That would work a lot better. The output lines on the stock PS pump in my 'kick run vertically out of the pump, and thats why I can't clear the york without changing the was those run.

Is anyone using a sidekick PS setup that has the outputs running similar to the pic above?

Thanks for the help,

Ryan

yager
04-23-2003, 07:05 AM
http://www.yager.net/zukin/new/2003/dscf0163.jpg


thats the sanden pump, im using factory zuke mounting brackets, top and bottom. (bottom is modified for ps pump )But look on any micro import type car... geo metro, swifts, sprints, etc even though some have 3 cyl they share many engine parts, and are FWD, brackets etc, might be scavenged....

Slowzuki
04-23-2003, 09:13 AM
http://moose.ca/~slowzuki/slowzuki/tech_info/aircomp/compressor.htm

http://moose.ca/~slowzuki/slowzuki/tech_info/aircomp/nippontwin.jpg

tdavis
04-23-2003, 10:41 AM
Originally posted by Sarcastro
that is too cool where can you get sanden compressors? ebay? what kind of cars do them come on?

I can't tell you which vehicle have sandens in them.

The sanden I have is an aftermarket one, which means it was retro-fitted onto the vehicle I got it from. You can get brand spanking new ones from here (http://www.onboardair.com) and here (http://www.extremeoutback.com/Compressors.htm)

So, it's off to the junkyard to find one.. I also grabbed all the hoses with it. The high pressure side is about 4ft long, and I like that for it's good and tough; tough enough to handle the heat and pressure, long enough to cool the air ALOT.

Also, my system runs at 250psi off, 210psi on. All parts are 3/8" ID, 250psi, 275 temp rated. The higher pressure and size means more more energy stored, faster. :D The pressure also made if fun trying to get all the air leaks sealed up though.. I then run the air to a regulater to reduce the pressure down to 100psi, and then run a second filter for water to the front ARB and quick connect.

Things I've already tested with this system:

1) Reseat a bead. Did that on a 36x14.50 swamper. Worked great.

2) Air station to fill tires.. Done up to 37's, quickly and easily. No major heat problem.

3) Run air tools. Yup, does that too.

I haven't done any sandblasting yet. :)

tdavis
04-23-2003, 10:59 AM
OBA (on board air), 250 PSI system.

Grainger part #, Description, Cost

5WZ03, 0-300 PSI gauge, $3.85
4ZK10 125 to 300 PSI adjustable relief valve, $10.87
1V632, 35 to 250psi adjustable pressure switch, $44.50
4ZL29, Heavy Duty Filter, $21.65
4ZK29, Mounting Bracket, compact filter, $4.16
5X781, Bronze Air Check Valve, $11.99
5Z665, 10cfm Air Filter, $14.50

I also bought a bunch of brass fittings from the local hardware store to finish it up.

yager
04-23-2003, 12:04 PM
tdavis - what size sanden do you have ? I just can see the small unit i have making that much pressure AND suppling any volume of it for a period of time....

thanks

tdavis
04-23-2003, 12:23 PM
Physical size on the rotary sanden are decieving.

Mine is the SD709 model.

Click here (http://www.sanden.com/support/servicemanual/english/table_of_contents.html) to see the sanden manual.

nomorejeep
04-23-2003, 01:28 PM
you can also use http://www.onboardair.com/

nomorejeep
04-23-2003, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by zukipuke
http://www.yager.net/zukin/new/2003/dscf0163.jpg


thats the sanden pump, im using factory zuke mounting brackets, top and bottom. (bottom is modified for ps pump )But look on any micro import type car... geo metro, swifts, sprints, etc even though some have 3 cyl they share many engine parts, and are FWD, brackets etc, might be scavenged....

http://www.yager.net/zukin/new/2003/dscf0163.jpg

rotozuk
04-23-2003, 04:47 PM
Originally posted by Slowzuki
http://moose.ca/~slowzuki/slowzuki/tech_info/aircomp/compressor.htm

http://moose.ca/~slowzuki/slowzuki/tech_info/aircomp/nippontwin.jpg

Posted that link to my clubs mail list and I think it hen went to another list that then gave this feedback: (gessh..) (just a guess, but that is probably Brad Kilby.)

Steve, do me a favor and let them know that the write-up is showing how
to do it the hard way.

The other end of that passage ends up in the suction chamber, inside the
head. If you were to pull the head and valve plate off, you can jam a
sheet metal screw into the hole and be done with it. No need to tap
anything. A person *might* need a new valve plate gasket and a new head
gasket but maybe not. I sell complete kits for $15.00 Here's some pics
to look at otherwise. Thanks!

http://www.onboardair.com/archive/york_peehole/dcp00561.jpg
http://www.onboardair.com/archive/york_peehole/dcp00562.jpg
http://www.onboardair.com/archive/york_peehole/dcp00563.jpg
http://www.onboardair.com/archive/york_peehole/dcp00564.jpg
http://www.onboardair.com/archive/york_peehole/dcp00566.jpg
http://www.onboardair.com/archive/york_peehole/dcp00561.jpg
http://www.onboardair.com/archive/york_peehole/dcp00572.jpg
http://www.onboardair.com/archive/york_peehole/dcp00573.jpg
http://www.onboardair.com/archive/york_peehole/pee_hole.jpg

Brad (this write-up causes me much headaches)

HZJ60_Guy
04-23-2003, 07:17 PM
Extremeaire compressor. Two 2.5 gallon air tanks. 145psi cutoff switch and it's air tools away!



TB

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