: Tj Vs Yj


Jeeplord88
08-27-2007, 10:39 PM
My friend is looking to buy a jeep. He was asking me what were the main differences of TJ & YJ. (I have a YJ so I don't know much about TJs)

Major Difference I see is that TJ has Coil susp. and has bit more tire clearance. (Then theres the round lights and the better looking dashboard :D)

Does it make a huge difference to have Coil when wheeling?

Is it worth spending more money so u can have a Coil spring (and coil ready) susp?

I know if I were to convert my YJ to a Coil system I would have to spend minimum 2k.

any comments would be appreciated. thx

Syd07
08-27-2007, 11:39 PM
It depends on what kind of wheeling your doing. You can make leafs work just as well as coils for a hell of alot cheaper. But if your friends not mechanicaly inclined he might be better off with a TJ. My YJ with 4" springs kicked my friends 4" lifted TJ's ass everywhere we went. But we dont have rocks if we did things would have been different.

Im a YJ fan and i find some things on the TJ to be quirky like...
the 2 piece steering shaft
trany/body mounted t-case shafter
transfercase sprockets not having bearings lol

And some other things i cant think of off the top of my head... Just small things that are not that big of a deal. Tell you friend to go look at both and pick the one he likes best.

hperiman
08-27-2007, 11:57 PM
YJs stick to the KISS principle, and are cheaper to purchase and mod.
My $0.02

Gibson
08-28-2007, 12:15 AM
YJs never came with dana 44s but chevy moter swaps are easyer

KVOM
08-28-2007, 04:46 AM
If it's going to be a DD then a TJ will ride better and be more comfortable.

Jeeplord88
08-28-2007, 10:19 PM
What do you guys think about getting a YJ and Putting on a Procomp Coil conversion ?:D

Syd07
08-28-2007, 10:51 PM
Why bother? Buy a TJ

RoCkSkuLLz
08-29-2007, 08:33 AM
What do you guys think about getting a YJ and Putting on a Procomp Coil conversion ?:D

how many people do you see running this kit...? theres a reason why.

geberhard
08-29-2007, 08:54 AM
YJs never came with dana 44s but chevy moter swaps are easyer



Hmmm I bought a Canadian YJ witha stock 44 ;) I am partial to YJ's for simplicity, and less electrical stuff to deal with, but the TJ's are comfy. All depends of his plans, budget, etc.

crusty1007
08-29-2007, 11:10 AM
I have 2 TJs and a YJ, I like the YJ. The Yj is not near as tempermental to loose suspension, tire issues as the TJs (If you go TJ get to know the term "Death Wobble")
The YJ is cheap to work on & simple.

offroadjunkie
08-29-2007, 11:29 AM
tell him to look at the price of lift kits... damn theres a difference

KiGrind
08-29-2007, 05:24 PM
YJs stick to the KISS principle, and are cheaper to purchase and mod.
My $0.02

That is the worst kiss example for a jeep, ever!

















But thats just cause it so damn cool. :D Its purty....

Little Jeep
08-29-2007, 06:12 PM
If it's going to be a DD, the TJ is probably a better choice. There are more TJ's with 4.oL than YJ's with the 4.0L..... if that is a factor to you.

Jeeplord88
08-29-2007, 07:52 PM
If it's going to be a DD, the TJ is probably a better choice. There are more TJ's with 4.oL than YJ's with the 4.0L..... if that is a factor to you.

I am not letting him buy a 2.5 :D

I think he will use it everyday for driving in the city.

It seems like the suspension (coil vs leaf) is not a huge fact.

I don't know if he would say HE must have the round lights LOL

PizzaFarno
08-29-2007, 09:42 PM
I think it depends on what the guys doing. If he wants something simple, go with the cj or the yj. If he wants something better on rocks and more comfy, go with the tj. Personally, i like the 4.2 better than the 4.0, of course if you fuel inject it and put headers on, but thats my opinion. The problem with the yj is that it comes stock with the 35 in the rear. Thats why a cj is better axle wise, because if the model 20 is one pieced, it is pretty comparable to a 44.

Little Jeep
08-30-2007, 05:05 AM
I am not letting him buy a 2.5 :D

I think he will use it everyday for driving in the city.

It seems like the suspension (coil vs leaf) is not a huge fact.

I don't know if he would say HE must have the round lights LOL

In my mind, this is a slam dunk. Since he will be driving it daily as a commute vehicle, the TJ is the only choice. Nothing wrong with CJ except their age and that they may not be a reliable vehicle for DD. Nothing wrong with YJ's except the TJ takes care of the creature comforts better and the TJ's are newer, therefore maybe more reliable for DD. Also, for what a CJ sells for, you can get an older TJ.

Scotch740
08-30-2007, 01:42 PM
IF its his only vehicle he might look at an Unlimited. Mine being my only transportation I am extremely happy with the added space. At first I didn't think I could afford such a new jeep but after crunching some numbers it became an option since I only plan to buy one jeep for myself, and I had to take out a loan either way. Either way a coil will provide a better on road ride, and from my somewhat limited wheeling it seams to keep all 4s on the ground better than a leaf sprung jeep.

Jeeplord88
08-30-2007, 08:35 PM
I think it depends on what the guys doing. If he wants something simple, go with the cj or the yj. If he wants something better on rocks and more comfy, go with the tj. Personally, i like the 4.2 better than the 4.0, of course if you fuel inject it and put headers on, but thats my opinion. The problem with the yj is that it comes stock with the 35 in the rear. Thats why a cj is better axle wise, because if the model 20 is one pieced, it is pretty comparable to a 44.


What year(s) got the 4.2?

Jeeplord88
08-30-2007, 08:36 PM
In my mind, this is a slam dunk. Since he will be driving it daily as a commute vehicle, the TJ is the only choice. Nothing wrong with CJ except their age and that they may not be a reliable vehicle for DD. Nothing wrong with YJ's except the TJ takes care of the creature comforts better and the TJ's are newer, therefore maybe more reliable for DD. Also, for what a CJ sells for, you can get an older TJ.

TY...

I drive my YJ everyday.. just a bit bumpy.. but thats what jeeps do.. :D

solarpower
08-30-2007, 09:06 PM
If he wants to DD it a TJ is a no brainer. CD players are standard in +03 models.

If he wants to wheel it...find whatever does not have a D35.:D

milfordjeeper
08-30-2007, 10:16 PM
What do you guys think about getting a YJ and Putting on a Procomp Coil conversion ?:D

if ur thinking of a coil conversion. get a clayton kit. by far one of the best out there

ARB_jon
08-30-2007, 10:34 PM
tjs are just kooler:smokin: but to build a cheap offroad rig yjs are the way to got by far. the tjs got alot more complication with the creature comforts .

Jeeplord88
08-31-2007, 10:15 PM
if ur thinking of a coil conversion. get a clayton kit. by far one of the best out there

Thanks.

Do you have more info on this conv. kit? I might do it to mine.. :D

do you think the 4wheelparts stores might have them?

TeenyCAR
08-31-2007, 11:10 PM
I like the YJ's as they have less stuff to have to cut off for building a suspension.
:D

wiggamoe
09-01-2007, 09:39 PM
It is my opinion that YJs achieve a perfect balance between the CJ and TJ. Unlike the CJ you will get a bit more comfort, a stronger frame and a fuel injected engine. Unlike the TJ you will get a much more basic suspension, and a dash that doesn't look like the dash of my Corolla. EVERYTHING for a YJ that has an equivalent part for a TJ is cheaper. From the cost of a new soft top, to a lift kit, the YJ is cheaper. The only downside to a YJ is the Dana 35, but with the money saved by purchasing a YJ, you will be able to put a locked 8.8 in the rear. DON'T get a 4.2, they suck! Anything that isn't fuel injected sucks. Try to find a 91 or newer YJ 4.0/AX15. Lastly, don't get a 2.5L, both the engine and the transmission suck.

Jeeplord88
09-01-2007, 10:11 PM
It is my opinion that YJs achieve a perfect balance between the CJ and TJ. Unlike the CJ you will get a bit more comfort, a stronger frame and a fuel injected engine. Unlike the TJ you will get a much more basic suspension, and a dash that doesn't look like the dash of my Corolla. EVERYTHING for a YJ that has an equivalent part for a TJ is cheaper. From the cost of a new soft top, to a lift kit, the YJ is cheaper. The only downside to a YJ is the Dana 35, but with the money saved by purchasing a YJ, you will be able to put a locked 8.8 in the rear. DON'T get a 4.2, they suck! Anything that isn't fuel injected sucks. Try to find a 91 or newer YJ 4.0/AX15. Lastly, don't get a 2.5L, both the engine and the transmission suck.

Great explanation.. Thanks a lot...

No WAY I am letting him get a 2.5L... :D

Ryalt
09-03-2007, 06:04 AM
I have a '93 YJ with the 2.5L. If I had known what I know now, I wouldn't have gotten this particular Jeep, just because of the engine/tranny.

But on the other hand, since it's a YJ, I can mod it easier.

I'm looking right now into swapping in a granny low tranny some point in the future, and new transfer case. It's a work in progress (as we all know well :P).

My 2.5L is fine for everything except traveling large hills at highway speeds, and off-road unless you are doing mud, it's fine.

I see it as it's kept me from getting a speeding ticket on the highway, and it's a project for me in the future when I get my next DD vehicle and can turn this into a real project :P

lutzke21
09-06-2007, 03:24 PM
I've had my current YJ for 12 years now... Wouldn't trade it for a TJ (unless...).

A comparable built TJ can out ramp me, if RTI numbers mean anything at all.

gschretter
09-13-2007, 05:42 AM
CJ always !!!! :p

Mr. 95YJ
09-13-2007, 11:44 AM
I have a 95 4.0 ax15 on 37's you can get to this point thousands cheaper then you can with a TJ. I think I will keep my YJ I have had it for almost 10 years and no it is not a DD. TJ's are great if you are going to travel with it and drive cross country but other then that why spend the extra cash.