Well I'm about done installing my SYE on my 00 TJ, but I'm having problems with the 4wd linkage. I'd just call AA, but they are closed right now, so I thought I'd try here. Anyway, I can shift to 4lo, N, and 4 Hi fine, but I can't get into 2wd. Any ideas?

Thanks.

What is it doing? Is it grinding as you try to go into 2wd. i have a SYE on mine, some times when it dosen't want to go from 4low to 2wd i have to put the transmition into reverse then to drive and then back to N and that works for mine. Good luck

Thanks for the quick repsonse!

The best way I can describe it is that I can pull, tug, twist, kick and shout at the shifter, and it is just plain stuck, and it won't budge.

What type of kit was installed? Was a new shaft put in and the t-case disassembled or was the shaft cut while still in the case?

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Maybe I should have been more specific. When I said I would just call AA, I meant Advance Adapters, the brand of the kit. So in answer to your question, no, it's not the RE cut and whack kit.

Originally posted by CheaseMuddin:
<STRONG>Maybe I should have been more specific. When I said I would just call AA, I meant Advance Adapters, the brand of the kit. So in answer to your question, no, it's not the RE cut and whack kit.</STRONG>

actualy the orginal SYE "I think" and the strongest sye kit, and on the market IMHO is JB Conversions Heavyduty Short shaft and SYE. It too is a cut and whack kit as u call it and I trust that if he feels whack is good.. then I whack. I dont think whack method is something to even be worried about in a SYE kit.

As to your problem... hmmm maybe its the cheap shift fork AA used instead of whacking. HaHa.. hehe.. Just kidding..I dont think AA has a reputation of selling weak stuff.

I would think more of a problem created durring reinstall of the Tcase back into the rig before I would blame the SYE install into the Tcase.

did you by any chance check to see if the actual linkage is binding? the one piece is adjustable , to help prevent binding,,,, have some one try to move the lever while you watch what the linkage is actually doin....


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[ 10-21-2001: Message edited by: badassjeepguy ]

Originally posted by badassjeepguy:
<STRONG>did you by any chance check to see if the actual linkage is binding</STRONG>

Damn I was gonna say that. I had a similar problem after I put in my Tera 4:1 except mine wouldn't shift into 4low. Definitely take a look at the linkage because thats where my problem was.

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I had the same problem...
I just did it 2 weeks ago...
there was a thread about it.
( http://www.pirate4x4.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=4&t=006375 )

The mark which way the little knobby on the t-case in 4lo. Pull the entire linkage and inspect it all.
In my case the nut on the backside of the pivot bolt was loose...you couldn't tell by just looking but get a buddy to come over and shift while you look from underneath...you'll notice a little too much play.
tighten everything.
when you install it the haynes repair mannual ( <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0"> ) says to put a 1/8" drill bit taped to the shifter (for a spacer) in between the shifter and the shifty slidey part that guides it...maybe unclear but this is so there's a bit of a gap in the guidey party thingy doesn't limit the shifter.
then hook it all up (in 4lo) and adjust the little adjusty thingy (might not need adjusting). and everything should be good to go.

SYE doesn't change anything related to the shifter linkage....it's all in the same place from one end to the other.

Good Luck.
might be worth the $ to buy a hayne's repair mannual if you don't already have one...
can't say i've ever seen one for a TJ (but i've never looked either).
or if you have a buddy with a YJ steal his and check out the pic...it might explain a little better than i do.
my scanner is not working so i can't help ya out.
anyone else wanna send it to him it's in chapter 7 some where.

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[ 10-21-2001: Message edited by: RYJAY ]

did you by any chance check to see if the actual linkage is binding? the one piece is adjustable , to help prevent binding,,,, have some one try to move the lever while you watch what the linkage is actually doin....
did you take out the t case to do this? When i replaced my shaft i just left the t case it the rig and it worked great. what was said in the quote would be a good place to start.

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Thanks for the responses guys. So far no luck with the linkage. It seems that as I get it more adjusted so I can get into 2wd, I start to lose 4Lo. Also, if I manually turn the mechanism at the t-case, I can only find 4lo, N, and 4Hi. I'm trying to avoid opening the case up again - is there anything in the case itself that could be causing this binding?

No, I didn't take the case out for the installation. The instructions from AA said to disengage the shift rod at the t-case, so that's all I did.

Back to work now, Thanks again.

[ 10-21-2001: Message edited by: CheaseMuddin ]

Did you have to take the shift rail and detent pin/spring out during any part of your install? If so you may have installed the detent pin and spring in the reverse order. I know a buddy of mine that had that happen to him and that puts the spring against the shift fork instead of the detent pin which is supposed to ride against the shift rail. The pin goes in and then the spring rests between that and the bolt on the outside of the t-case. If its in backwards the spring will be all bent up and jammed in there. Could be another thing to look at. Not sure since you did say that you can adjust it and get 2wd, 4hi, and neutral but then you lose 4low or you can have 4hi, neutral, and 4 low and you lose 2wd but it may be another thing you could look at before you take the case out of the vehicle and take it apart.

Hmm.. guessing if you dont' see any binding outside the case and can adjust it to get it into 2wd that your problem means opening the case up (I know what you didn't want to hear). I just installed a JB kit in my case last week and didn't have to grind or cut anything and it shifts better now than before. I would open the case and check that the spring and shift detent is in the right spot and that the syncro ring isn't on backwards. Basicly as much as you don't want to I think your gonna have to invest in some ATF and RTV and split the case open again and make sure everything inside is correct.

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Well, it appears as though the linkage is wokring correctly. All it took was a few hours of me cussing at it, and I now have 2wd and 4LO.

Oh, I hadn't filled the case back up yet, so even if I did have to open it, I wouldn't be going through gallons of ATF.

Thanks for the suggestions!

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