: New rockers done! (pics)
tjChilipepper 06-13-2002, 07:08 PM With Yardog's help, we got the rockers done Sunday. They have been trail tested and are real tough. What do you guys think?
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid22/p3459e8a4a6e8c28768b8e422d9cdcf97/fda601da.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid22/p81c5dbb1bb96a00b5d44fe8f7c22bce7/fda601d7.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid22/pdd8466592311c2270b42cb9614c6aec2/fda601d5.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid22/p7fe1d6f9c038d4bd7f18f95943d6a51d/fda601d4.jpg
nasvik 06-13-2002, 07:19 PM Pretty!!!!!
Where's the scars from testing?
Paul
tjChilipepper 06-13-2002, 07:21 PM I tested before putting on the side bars. have been repainted.
preach 06-13-2002, 07:45 PM Nice!...I JUST mocked up my rockers tonight:
http://home.attbi.com/~rburrier/preach/rocker1.jpg
I do not know if I want the tubing step but I will be welding some sort of crap to it.
Tx Outlaw 06-13-2002, 08:14 PM Looks good! Those look a lot like the ones I'm building right now. I did put a couple center supports in each step bar tho. I also notched the angle underneath in the front area so the bend would be right up against the body. I'll take pics tomorrow to explain better.
Cutter 06-13-2002, 08:16 PM looks like some great work tjChilipepper! You might want to think of making a bunch to sell:smokin:
rockmutt 06-13-2002, 08:45 PM 3/8" thick T1 plate!
Cutter 06-13-2002, 08:57 PM just diamond plate...
http://cutter.rockcrawler.com/images/stepdown.jpg
Chrisjeep7 06-13-2002, 09:11 PM i used 4x4 1/4" angle....i likes.
Chris G.
H8monday 06-13-2002, 11:30 PM I just went ahead and cut my rocker panels all the way off. Now I dont have to worry about protecting them,..well actually I still run 1/8 plate for the skin.
CheapXJ 06-14-2002, 12:18 AM What's with this one i found on JU?
http://home.ptd.net/~naumiler/jeep/gay-tj.jpg
Which crowd are you catering to here dude?
Originally posted by H8monday
I just went ahead and cut my rocker panels all the way off. Now I dont have to worry about protecting them,..well actually I still run 1/8 plate for the skin.
Why don't more people trim thier rockers some? Everybody wants high clearance, but not many trim the body it's self.
I plan to make mine similar to Chili's, but I will triangulate some center supports on the bar, tie in to the body mount in the middle, and stagger the bolts into the body.
-Bart
bigdude 06-14-2002, 04:48 AM Originally posted by 1337j33px0r
What's with this one i found on JU?
http://home.ptd.net/~naumiler/jeep/gay-tj.jpg
Which crowd are you catering to here dude?
Bawahahahahaha :D That's funny.
They do look good chilipepper:beer:
nasvik 06-14-2002, 06:41 AM Originally posted by H8monday
I just went ahead and cut my rocker panels all the way off. Now I dont have to worry about protecting them,..well actually I still run 1/8 plate for the skin.
I thought you ran 3/16" underneath, Jeff? That's what I'm planning when I cut mine off next month... Yes - I'm finally getting around to it. You stealing the idea made me motivate! :flipoff2:
Paul
tjChilipepper 06-14-2002, 07:19 AM Me and Steve did talk about selling them, so if you are interested let me know.
yarddog 06-14-2002, 07:42 AM Originally posted by bart
Why don't more people trim thier rockers some? Everybody wants high clearance, but not many trim the body it's self.
I plan to make mine similar to Chili's, but I will triangulate some center supports on the bar, tie in to the body mount in the middle, and stagger the bolts into the body.
-Bart
Thanks for the comments, dudes.
Trimming the body = to much work. 4 bolts work fine but we'll probably add a couple more. Adding some center supports for the tube is a good idea. We thought about going with 6X6 and having the lower go inbetween the body mounts for extra strength, but I don't think it's necessary and it would make them a lot harder to install.
There 4X6X3/16" with 1.75" .120 HREW for the step.
Sillyneck 06-14-2002, 10:52 AM I like them. I have been thinking about the tubes on the rockers but never took the time to make any.
MNBen 06-14-2002, 11:04 AM Nice,
Those look really clean. What size tubing did you use for the steps. Do you see any problems with them sticking out. Hmm they would probably make good pivot points if you added a brace or 2 look others have mentioned. I would some noslip tape or something to the top of the step. They look pretty shiny, I could see myself or the wife takin a digger using them when covered with mud. There is a similar style already being sold by someone for around $270. I bet you could make a few bucks and have a few :beer: selling them on JU.
Ben
H8monday 06-14-2002, 11:04 AM Originally posted by Sillyneck
I like them. I have been thinking about the tubes on the rockers but never took the time to make any.
The big problem with welding extra tubing at the rockers is that you lose a lot of side clearance, you add weight and you gain no advantage over just running strong rocker protectors.
The thinh I have noticed after years of modifications, is that, with the exception of the roll cage, nearly every piece of tubing or steel that I have welded to the rig, that extends the envelope in any direction,...inevitably get torn off or cut off.
On the other hand, every piece of metal that I have ever cut off to increase clearance in any direction, has been left alone (or cut back even more).
The removal of my rocker panels all together was the final step in that excact case in point, after years of several different rocker panel gaurds.
No Rockers,....no problem with hitting them.
TNToy 06-14-2002, 01:06 PM Originally posted by H8monday
The big problem with welding extra tubing at the rockers is that you lose a lot of side clearance, you add weight and you gain no advantage over just running strong rocker protectors.
He's in Colorado. They have trees there. Trees rub against the mirrors and what-not before they hit a piece of 1/4" thick plate bolted along the bottom of the tub. ;)
Most of the jeeps around here (lots of trees in west TN, too) run rocker guards with lots of clearance, but which stick out from the body about 4 inches.
Originally posted by Dr. Evil
He's in Colorado. They have trees there. Trees rub against the mirrors and what-not before they hit a piece of 1/4" thick plate bolted along the bottom of the tub. ;)
Not trying to burst your bubble or voice an opinion on whether the tubes are good or bad, but we're more likely to rub on rocks than trees in Colorado. I know what type of trail chilipepper and yarddog run and the rocks are what you have to watch out for.
yarddog 06-14-2002, 02:14 PM H8, I agree that the steps really serve no real purpose other than looks. And it really looks sharp IMO.
But his jeep is still pretty new, so there is a lot of stuff that will get ripped, bashed or cut off before the tube does. Adding grip tape is another good idea.
Evil, we have lot's of rocks here :)
ROKWALKER 06-14-2002, 04:38 PM Originally posted by tjChilipepper
With Yardog's help, we got the rockers done Sunday. They have been trail tested and are real tough. What do you guys think?
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid22/p3459e8a4a6e8c28768b8e422d9cdcf97/fda601da.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid22/p81c5dbb1bb96a00b5d44fe8f7c22bce7/fda601d7.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid22/pdd8466592311c2270b42cb9614c6aec2/fda601d5.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid22/p7fe1d6f9c038d4bd7f18f95943d6a51d/fda601d4.jpg
Looks good! :beer:
crawlinTJ 06-14-2002, 09:32 PM Originally posted by 1337j33px0r
What's with this one i found on JU?
http://home.ptd.net/~naumiler/jeep/gay-tj.jpg
Which crowd are you catering to here dude?
It's all about the praise man! :D
H8monday 06-14-2002, 10:08 PM Originally posted by Dr. Evil
He's in Colorado. They have trees there. Trees rub against the mirrors and what-not before they hit a piece of 1/4" thick plate bolted along the bottom of the tub. ;)
Most of the jeeps around here (lots of trees in west TN, too) run rocker guards with lots of clearance, but which stick out from the body about 4 inches.
Be it Rocks or Trees, or even the Mall parking lot, you are gonna have to trust me on this,...the best way to move through tight spots, is not to add more shit further out from the original envelope. Move or remove all of the other objects that you are supposedly protecting with your protrusions, design smooth transitions into all of your modifications, get used to a little body damage and paint scrathes, and learn to drive your rig. These suggestions will help you mauever more easily on those nasty tight tree trails, that everyone seems to think that we dont understand, the moment someone finishes thier 1st succesful run on Jack hammer. :rolleyes:
Chewbacca 06-14-2002, 11:55 PM Nice job on the rocker guards!
Tx Outlaw 06-15-2002, 05:56 AM Here's a pic of mine in progress. 5x3x3/16 with 1.75x.120 HREW.
BossBuilt 06-15-2002, 06:50 AM Originally posted by H8monday
Be it Rocks or Trees, or even the Mall parking lot, you are gonna have to trust me on this,...the best way to move through tight spots, is not to add more shit further out from the original envelope. Move or remove all of the other objects that you are supposedly protecting with your protrusions, design smooth transitions into all of your modifications, get used to a little body damage and paint scrathes, and learn to drive your rig. These suggestions will help you mauever more easily on those nasty tight tree trails, that everyone seems to think that we dont understand, the moment someone finishes thier 1st succesful run on Jack hammer. :rolleyes:
I have to agree with this guy.
This is my philosophy while building my rig....anything I added on in the past either got ripped completely off or hung me up.
Rather than strengthening my huge flat spot on the sides of my rig I'll be trimming it a a 45 degree angle. (+or-) \____/...lots of trees and stumps up here BTW:p
DozerDan 06-15-2002, 08:18 AM Bossgrip you mean like this http://www.orcusomega.com/gallery/albums/album25/aaa.thumb.jpg
http://www.orcusomega.com/gallery/albums/album25/aab.thumb.jpg
I have some of my Jeep (white) with my old style ones on it. I have since slightly changed them (the ones in the pics are the new ones) But they are hardcore. I do make them to order, but shipping is a real BITCH.
I make them out of 55" (full lentgh for a swb jeep) 4x4x1/4" angle iron. The step is 18" with the sides being 6" each. I dont know what the angle is but it fits. The corners of the side braces are rounded off. Of the 6 sets i have out and about no one has broken them. I have tried to break the step off and can not.
The pics arent the greatest(dark jeep dark garage black rockers) but here is a link http://www.orcusomega.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album25
Dan
Maine Jeepah 06-15-2002, 08:29 AM I don't doubt that some of you guys could rip these off...but around here I don't think I'll have problems.
These are based on skids Charly made for his YJ.
His are sandwiched in betwwen the body mounts.
Mine are welded to them.
3/16" stock bent 90 degrees.
1" thick wall tubing for a "pivot point".
Here is the drivers side skid with the square stock welded to it, it has been drilled for mounting to the tub, as well as drain holes to match the tub drains.
http://mainejeepah.homestead.com/files/rockerskid6.JPG
Another angle.
http://mainejeepah.homestead.com/files/rockerskid7.JPG
Welded up the ends of the square tube.
http://mainejeepah.homestead.com/files/rockerskid8.JPG
Mounted the skids with 5/16" stainless hex bolts, stainless fender washers, and nylock nuts.
http://mainejeepah.homestead.com/files/rockerskid10.jpg
http://mainejeepah.homestead.com/files/rockerskid12.jpg
They are also welded to the body mount brackets...for some reason a couple of the brackets required that I use some flat stock as a spacer...heres how most of them look.
http://mainejeepah.homestead.com/files/rockerskid11.jpg
They are just spray bombed with self etching primer and some ACE flat black paint.
Flame on about my ride height...I'll be SOA and 36" TSL's soon so you can all :flipoff2:
MJ
H8monday 06-15-2002, 10:29 AM Originally posted by BossGrip
I have to agree with this guy.
This is my philosophy while building my rig....anything I added on in the past either got ripped completely off or hung me up.
Rather than strengthening my huge flat spot on the sides of my rig I'll be trimming it a a 45 degree angle. (+or-) \____/...lots of trees and stumps up here BTW:p
This is how I trimmed mine out.
I used 2" .250 wall at the main runner tube the runs down the side from fender to fender. I used 1/4" L metal at the new body mount reinforced area. I used 1/8" Plate as the skin, but their are several 1.75 (.120 wall) tubes that are also at that area connecting the body mount L metal to the main runner tube.
http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/778267-Mvc-009s.jpg
BossBuilt 06-15-2002, 08:26 PM Originally posted by H8monday
This is how I trimmed mine out.
http://tellico.off-road.com/wwwthreads_uploads/778267-Mvc-009s.jpg
H8...Now that's what I'm talking about....you got rid of some bulk(aka Flat spots) ,didn't extend the width of your rig and at the same time strengthened your rockers with the ability to slide off any potential hazards(aka trees, rocks,stumps or what ever)...my wife would love a step but she will compromise;) .
ausjeep 06-15-2002, 10:53 PM its all good.
make sure they really extend underneath and make it to both fenders. also supported to the body underneath with some little risers.
full writeup (http://www.sv.com.au/jeep/rockers.htm)
http://www.sv.com.au/jeep/images/shanerockers/Dcp02325.jpg
Military Jeeper 06-17-2002, 08:50 AM What did you do about mounting on the bottom side, anything?
ashmanjeepXJ 06-17-2002, 05:00 PM I agree to trimming,
The step bar extension depends on over all tire width.
I think we can all safely say that if your step bar extends further then your tire's side wall, forget it, too far out.
I think the step bar should not pretrude further then tire side wall is a max not an optimal extension for the step bar. Id shoot for a step bar that lines up more mid tire front to rear.
Do you guys have any pics form the front tire to tire?
Does your step stick out?
:eek:
moveaside 06-22-2002, 06:26 PM Originally posted by BossGrip
H8...Now that's what I'm talking about....you got rid of some bulk(aka Flat spots) ,didn't extend the width of your rig and at the same time strengthened your rockers with the ability to slide off any potential hazards(aka trees, rocks,stumps or what ever)...my wife would love a step but she will compromise;) . I gotta agree this setup is pretty sweet rockers might slide but this probably never hits:cool:
Tx Outlaw 07-01-2002, 07:21 PM Originally posted by ashmanjeepXJ
I agree to trimming,
The step bar extension depends on over all tire width.
I think we can all safely say that if your step bar extends further then your tire's side wall, forget it, too far out.
I think the step bar should not pretrude further then tire side wall is a max not an optimal extension for the step bar. Id shoot for a step bar that lines up more mid tire front to rear.
Do you guys have any pics form the front tire to tire?
Does your step stick out?
:eek:
Sorry to bring this up again, but I believe you're referring to something like this...........
BTW: the bars won't be that close to the outside edge of the tires once the fullwidths and 38.5x14.5 SX's go on.
Jaffer 07-01-2002, 09:17 PM Originally posted by BossGrip
H8...Now that's what I'm talking about....you got rid of some bulk(aka Flat spots) ,didn't extend the width of your rig and at the same time strengthened your rockers with the ability to slide off any potential hazards . [/B]
Yep, 'form follows function' and 'keep it simple' all in one ...
http://www.monsterslayer.com/jeep/Pics/LeftSideBodyCrop2.jpg
HeyBeerMan 07-02-2002, 09:14 AM I would put some spreaders in there. If you really wheel that thing. You'll have that bar caved in in no time!
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