Anyone played with glueing tyres onto the rims instead of using beadlocks?

Im having trouble keeping my tyres from spinning on the rims (and with tubes it stuffs the tube valve) and I guess a bit of glue would also help the bead from coming unseated as well. Im thinking something like contact cement but I could also try some of the cold vulcanising rubber glue as well. As you can probably guess I havent got the cash for the real thing.

Thanks

If you use glue just hope that you dont have to take them off any time soon. The real fix would be to get different rims. The ones you got dont sound like they work properly. There is also a possibility that you stretched the tire so it wont seat properly. Is this happening on more then one of the tires? <IMG SRC="smilies/usa.gif" border="0">

I'm pretty sure the good ole boys use screws thru the bead. Glue should hold, but you might have to clean it all off to re-seat the tire later, could be a major pita in the field.

Glue? what kind of glue is going to hold rubber to metal under the kind of forces involved with pushing a sidewall off a bead?
Put the lid back on your glue bottle the fumes are kill'n brain cells. Get bead locks if your go'n wheel or atleast find some narrower rims..... screw the beads if nothing else....GLUE?
Rich Klein

They make a product for exactly that, gluing the tire to the wheel to stop the spin.

I had problems with spin a lot and it screwed with the balancing enough to where the tire shop offered to install the wheel "tack" for free so I wouldn't be in every Monday getting my tires rebalanced.

So far so good and it's been over a year.

I've been playing with the idea of using a high-grade epoxy. It looses strength when heated with a torch (according to my West System handbook) so hopefully there is an ideal temp at which you can remove the tire without burning it up. Then just repaint the rim and voila.

Having worked in the tire installation business for all but 3 of the last 10 years, I know of the seal/tack products on the market, they help with sealing bad beads, etc.. But a product to glue or adhere is news to me. working with epoxys, experiemnts etc.??? let us all know what you come up with. But locks are not that expensive unless you have only one set of tires and rims. Of course if your running good trail type tires on your daily drive then cost should not matter to you anyway because your eating good money with every trip to the store......Premature wear.....Just my two cents

big rich,
gettin off the subject, but what tires do you recomend for the daily driver?
bfgs?
goodyears?
any insight would be great
I'm thinking about tires soon and I want to wheel and drive it, but what would you recomend as both a road only tire and a road/trail tire?

WD 40 is the secret to keeping tires on the bead if you scuff the bead area and mount your tires with WD40 they stick right to the rim... <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

another use for JB Weld, bubblegum and duct tape?? <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Utah Cowboy tire repair kit....come awn....
everyday and trail tire??? Two completely different beasts. Trail tires, MTR's, Bias Swamper, and soon to be known Mickey Thompson's (depending on who's paying the bill). Street tire????? Long lasting, fair looks and low buck's, Take your pick of off brand name tires built by the big names (reguls=BFG, Remington=Dunlop)etc. but hell, everyone has their own opinions so there we are.....

I almost always glue my tires on when I have the time. It really helps keep the tire from spinning but also helps a bit from accidently breaking a bead. Remember you don't have a bead lock on the inside and the glue really helps here.

Jason <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

posted 10-18-2001 12:14 AM
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I almost always glue my tires on when I have the time. It really helps keep the tire from spinning but also helps a bit from accidently breaking a bead. Remember you don't have a bead lock on the inside and the glue really helps here.
Jason


Jason,
what type of glue do you use?

Sam

Super Glue <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

WTF! Glue??? what the hell? did i accidentally go onto the RC car bulletin boards or something?
Just break down and get some cheap ass beadlocks, Eaton sells them for like 120 bones each. It will save you a shit load of time in the end.

Can I Hear A Big AMEN

also if your too cheap to buy the bead locks you can try putting screws through the rim into the bead <IMG SRC="smilies/usa.gif" border="0">

Screws are cheap and they will work. everything else sounds questionable.

Originally posted by dirtrod:
<STRONG>I'm pretty sure the good ole boys use screws thru the bead. </STRONG>

Yup, old drag racing trick. Buddy of mine does that to his 38.5" Boggers on 7" rims. We don't deform the tire as much in mud as you do on rocks, but then again we're talking about vehicles that go from a dead stop to 90+MPH of wheelspeed in about 2 seconds time, so still pretty stressful on the bead.

TEX

You can always do the old SnowBall Rustlock.

Just sand the beads down to bare metal and mount the tires with nothing but water, saltwater works a little better. Give it a week or two and your tires will be firmly rustlocked!! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Originally posted by 40_Bones:
<STRONG>Screws are cheap and they will work. everything else sounds questionable.</STRONG>


How suitable are screws for a daily driver? Are they street legal? I suppose they wouldn't cause any balance problems as long as you applied them evenly. Do they work loose?

Originally posted by Grandpa_Jeep:
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How suitable are screws for a daily driver? Are they street legal? I suppose they wouldn't cause any balance problems as long as you applied them evenly. Do they work loose?</STRONG>

I know beadlocks are not street legal, at least in Ca. But thats because if the bolts loosen the tire goes flat, or blows off the rim. As with everything on an off-road vehicle checking for loose screws bolts etc... is something that should be done regularly. But if a screw backs out you won't get a flat.

One of the locals down here makes a beadlock (he calls it a baumlock) that goes on the inside of the rim, he builds up some portion in there using some sort of resin. I'll be getting my rims done in the next couple months. I believe he charges $250 for 4 rims, that's both inner and outer beadlocks. Maybe you can find someone local who does the same thing? The only downside to this is the bead is very hard to seat, I have heard it take 80-100 psi to get them in sometimes so the guys at the tire shops will hate you. But once there on, that tire is not coming off.

Does anyone have an interior view of how a beedlock works, I'm sure it's simple bu I'm having trouble picturing it.

Thanks.

Originally posted by FattyCBR:
<STRONG>Does anyone have an interior view of how a beedlock works, I'm sure it's simple bu I'm having trouble picturing it.

Thanks.</STRONG>

If you are talking about the 18 or 36 bolt type, they are just a standard wheel with a flat ring with threaded holes welded to it and a removable outer bead that pinches the tire bead against the ring when you tighten the bolts.

go to a yamaha dealer and they have some shit in a spray can for mounting tires that makes them slippery to mount easy and then sets up like concrete. it will help but wont cure all

do the old drag racing trick and screw 'em!
i would not use epoxy as most of them dry very hard and not at all flexible. real bitch to get back off too!!!
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